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Old 08-01-2007, 01:48 AM   #46
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I guess that we still don't have an update on this one, right?
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no updates, the mystery clerk is a strong suspect, but I believe there is a chance that Eileen Mangold's killer also did these crimes as well, same area, same type of attack, etc.
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Here's what gets me. Why would ring the girl with the cigarettes up if he was just another customer who happened to come in and find no cashier? Why not just say, "I'm not the cashier...I came in and no one was here." My guess is either he was probably going to take advantage of the oppurtunity of no cashier and steal something or maybe he was involved probably as an accomplice or lookout person.
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Wiseguy, I never thought about Eileen Mangold's killer possibly being responsible for the disappearance of those conv. store workers. Interesting.

I'm still on the fence about whether the Megadeth guy is responsible for Debra Poe's disappearance. Its possible he went back to steal but you would think after having kidnapped and possibly killed someone he wouldn't go back in that vacant store but be long gone. He didn't even seem nervous when that lady walked in knowing that it would soon be known that Debra was missing and that the customer could possibly identify him.
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Maybe it was just some dude who came in and saw a chance to live his life-long fantasy of being a convenience store clerk, if only for a moment, and grabbed it.
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Maybe it was just some dude who came in and saw a chance to live his life-long fantasy of being a convenience store clerk, if only for a moment, and grabbed it.

Haha
My vote is a potential robber who saw the opportunity and was smart and acted the part of the clerk to avoid freaking people out.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:42 PM   #52
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I haven't seen this story in awhile....but as for them not being linked, I agree with kadrmas....though he's in MN, he's pretty familiar with my local area. I live in Mobile, AL an hour from Gulf Breeze (on the Gulf Coast) and it is quite a distance to Lake City 4-5 hrs and about 7 to Orlando. How far apart in time were these murders committed? I saw another poster had stated that there were separate people arrested for the crimes.
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A much talked about case, but reading this page of posts leads me to post several new thoughts. I was and still am on the fence about this one.

As far as them being linked, I tend to think that they are. The far distance apart actually makes sense, in a way. These crimes were spaced not too far apart timewise, so if the criminal does them all in the same area, the chances of being caught go way up, as his luck is bound to run out sooner or later - the local police will be on the lookout for this guy bigtime, and the other convenience stores in the area would have probably been improving their security. And if it was the Megadeth guy, he's pretty distinctive looking, so if he lives and operates in the same area all the time, the risks of being identified go up.

Crystaldawn had a good point that I never considered before: that the Megadeth guy was calm. Very calm. Now the interesting thing is that the guy, whether he's a killer or robber or neither, has absolutely no idea of how many customers are going to come in. Perhaps none at all, but perhaps a flurry of activity. Granted, one wouldn't initally think 3 a.m. is going to be a busy time, but since it's probably one of the few stores in the area open at the time, you can expect some business throughout the night. What happens if the Megadeth guy has bad intentions, but runs into a busload of people making a middle-of-the-night stop for snacks or bathroom breaks or whatever, he risks being seen by tons of people. Yeah, a bit unlikely, but it would seem that he wouldn't want to leave it to chance. this leads me to other points...

Debra has never been found, and there were no signs of a struggle at the scene. This would lead me to believe that the abductor pulled a weapon on her quick, and got her out of there quick. Didn't waste time. This might suggest the Megadeth guy was not responsible, as the criminal is likely to get the heck out of dodge ASAP.

Furthermore, the Megadeth guy (like most people) would not have had any idea what surveillance cameras they have. This guy, we do know, spends several minutes in the store, and the segment suggest (although not necessarily true) that he roams the store, walking in just about every inch of the place. This would be highly risky for the Megadeth guy if he is the criminal, as he would have almost assuredly been picked up by the cameras if there were any.

Responding to ForeverPluto's point, there is actually a scenario where the Megadeth guy is innocent, but rings up the girl buying cigarettes. Assuming for a sec, that he's innocent, and then the girl come in. If he tells her "there's no cashier around", the girl is going to suspect him, she leaves, and then the guy is going to get freaked about being questioned, wrongfully accused, etc. Probably not something he wants to get involved with if he can avoid it.
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Well in Donna Callahan's case, she was the clerk that disappeared from the store in Gulf Breeze, two men were later arrested for this crime, a man that was already doing prison time for some other crimes confessed in 1995, 1996, somewhere in there that him and his half brother had did the crime and I believe he led them to the body and took a plea bargain where he got a sentence of 25 to life. This guy's older brother was arrested a year or two later because he denied involvement and stuck to his story, eventually they did arrest him and he was convicted but was spared the death penalty and was given the same sentence as his half brother, 25 to life. I know that the cops have said that they believe that Donna Callahan was not the only woman these two killed.
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There was a case in Texas a while back where virtually the exact scenario Kane envisioned actually happened, so it's not outside the realm of possibility. A guy stopped at a convenience store to get gas but the clerk couldn't seem to get the pump to work right. The customer went in and there was some kid in there behind the register who didn't seem to know what he was doing, but the customer was in a hurry so he just left.

Turns out the actual clerk (I can't remember anyone's name here, but it seems like she had two short last names) was dead or dying in the back room. For some reason, even though the police figured out who the kid was, they never were able to charge him so the case went cold and stayed that way until some new evidence turned up or something to that effect. I saw this on Cold Case Files years ago so I'm going by memory here, but the essential facts are correct.

Criminals aren't, on average, all that bright. Most often, when someone gets away with murder, it's due to sheer dumb luck and/or inexperience (and, rarely, outright incompetence) on the part of law enforcement. The Zodiac is a great example of the dumb luck and inexperience principles in action.
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Dynoguy asked if convenience stores were supposed to have cameras in 1990. While I don't know if it was common for them to have cameras in 1990, I can tell you that from 1997-2000 the convenience store I worked in did NOT have any sort of camera system.

...we just had a baseball bat behind the counter for protection. Lotsa fun!
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A link to the case I mentioned above, with more details: http://www.texnews.com/1998/2000/local/file0717.html. The victim's name was Tracy Benge Sewell, and though her killer was identified within days, it took 16 years to bring him to trial.

Very interesting in light of the facts surrounding the Poe case (in my opinion, anyway).
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Lotsa fun!
Especially the incident you told me about a while back, right!?

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For those of you who may not have gotten Dislimb's comment, I'll clarify:

While working in a convenience store, I was robbed at gunpoint. I think I may have mentioned it in another thread, but there was no camera in the store at the time and police were never able to find the guy who did it.

There. Now you're all in the loop. And Vegas was super fun, Dislimb. Thanks.
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I love it when you call me Dislimb, LooksLikeCRicci.
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