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Old 08-08-2010, 05:05 PM   #61
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It was not an easy shot, but was a possible one. There are wildly contradictory stories regarding Oswald's shooting ability. Someone recalled being on a rabbit hunt with him in Russia where he couldn't even hit a rabbit and someone else had to shoot it for him. Someone else recalled target practice in the Marines, when everyone had knocked off for coffee and cigarettes because no one could hit anything accurately with a strong side wind. Oswald continued to shoot, and to hit the target accurately.
He had to be at a minimum a "marksman" in order to be qualified at all. I attained this while in the AF a long time ago. (Next is "Sharpshooter" and the top rank is "Expert.) As I said, one shot went completely astray and hit the curb down from the motorcade. So that left only two shots. From a photo I saw from where Oswald was sitting, it was an easy shot in my opinion. As I recall he bought the rifle for $12 through the mail and it was said to be of inferior design but evidently accurate enough. With a scope and a steady position and the motorcade moving at 15 mph (as told by Jack Valenti on Imus) it was an easy shot. Valenti (now deceased) said he had no doubt as to what happened. He always struck me as a "straight shooter."

I do believe, however, that the possible connection to Marcello and Trafficante are worth exploring.

The other thing is the alleged "magic bullet" which fell out on the gurney. Although it was said to be "pristine" I believe it is more accurate to say that it was slightly deformed. On the number of bullets fired:

"Of 178 witnesses whose evidence was compiled by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), 132 reported hearing exactly three shots, 17 recalled hearing two, 7 said they heard two or three shots (total: 88%). A total of 6 people said they thought they heard four shots, and 9 said they were not sure how many shots they heard. Another 7 people said they thought they heard 1, 5, 6, or 8 shots."
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:27 PM   #62
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So now they think the killer was an unknown stranger, but they still want to interview Burke? What the...?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/395058...ple/?gt1=43001
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So now they think the killer was an unknown stranger, but they still want to interview Burke? What the...?

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I dont buy this crime was committed by a unknown stranger. If they think this, what is the need for interviewing Burke??? That makes no sense.
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Maybe now that Burke is an adult he might be able to recall some info that may help police ???
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I dont buy this crime was committed by a unknown stranger. If they think this, what is the need for interviewing Burke??? That makes no sense.

Just like in the Antonette Cayadito case (her sister remembered other things as an adult, or realized as she got older that something she remembered could be of importantce) or many others, re-interviewing witnesses once they're grown can bring out new revelations. Many times, as children, the witnesses may have held back some information thinking, in their child's logic, they might get in trouble, that they did some little thing wrong they shouldn't have (something that had nothing to do with the crime). I.E. Say Brock wasn't supposed to be out of bed at a certain time, but he was, and he saw something. As a child he may not have told, because he thought he'd get in trouble for being out of bed. Now as adults they may open up, they may also remember something with new questioning that may not have been brought out before.
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Have you guys seen this about that nut, John Mark Karr?

I missed it when it was first published in June. I initially ignored it because the title of the article sounded like some bizarre concoction of the National Enquirer.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/374650...y-today_people

Turns out that he's been living as a woman and has been known to stay in a Seattle women's shelter.

Why would a pedophile who prefers female victims live as a woman? I don't think it's because he's a male lesbian. The only reason I can think of is that little kids aren't hanging around men's homeless shelters. The best place to find new victims with inattentive mothers is exactly where this guy's been hanging out: schools, thailand, craig's list, and women's shelters.

His first wife was 13 years old and his second wife was 16. This latest girl, the one who claims he used her in his sex cult plan, was 17 when she started dating him. San Francisco is trying to serve him with a restraining order, but can't find him. I wish someone would just put this old pervert out of our misery.
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So now they think the killer was an unknown stranger, but they still want to interview Burke? What the...?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/395058...ple/?gt1=43001
I think they have a chance to solve this case with the method familial DNA. I still think a guy living in the neighborhood did it. Maybe in a radius of 300 meters from the Ramsey's. I don't think the killer knew the Ramsey's more than being a observer that walked (or drove) by their house regularly.
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I think they have a chance to solve this case with the method familial DNA. I still think a guy living in the neighborhood did it. Maybe in a radius of 300 meters from the Ramsey's. I don't think the killer knew the Ramsey's more than being a observer that walked (or drove) by their house regularly.
Whoever committed this crime had to been somewhat close at least with the Ramseys given the details in the ransom note. I highly doubt a total stranger would roam around there house for hours looking for personal info to put into that ransom note.
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Whoever committed this crime had to been somewhat close at least with the Ramseys given the details in the ransom note. I highly doubt a total stranger would roam around there house for hours looking for personal info to put into that ransom note.
The killer probably was in the house for hours before the Ramsey's came home. I think there is a strong probability that the killer did collect information about the Ramsey's by going through their personal information then write the note before the Ramsey's came home. The killer using a pen and paper from the Ramsey's home proves to me it was something of a spontaneous sick joke from the killer. But it don't have to be spontaneous thing though, cause all houses have a pen and paper so maybe the killer planned to do it like that.
The only important thing the note proves to me is that the killer lives pretty close to the Ramsey's (in the neighborhood) and that he didn't know them very much.
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The killer probably was in the house for hours before the Ramsey's came home. I think there is a strong probability that the killer did collect information about the Ramsey's by going through their personal information then write the note before the Ramsey's came home. The killer using a pen and paper from the Ramsey's home proves to me it was something of a spontaneous sick joke from the killer. The only important thing the note proves to me is that the killer lives pretty close to the Ramsey's (in the neighborhood) and that he didn't know them very much.
I agree, i think the killer likely lived near them and likely came to the house for hours and likely found a way to get info on them, the guy planned ahead.
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MAYBE an intruder could have dug around and found out that John Ramsey's bonus was $118,000 and asked for that amount in the ransom note. NO WAY would an intruder know that it was an inside family joke that John Ramsey had "good southern common sense".

Not buying it.
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Should have been bumped up for Christmas. Not one goes by that I don't think of her.
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The killer probably was in the house for hours before the Ramsey's came home. I think there is a strong probability that the killer did collect information about the Ramsey's by going through their personal information then write the note before the Ramsey's came home. The killer using a pen and paper from the Ramsey's home proves to me it was something of a spontaneous sick joke from the killer. But it don't have to be spontaneous thing though, cause all houses have a pen and paper so maybe the killer planned to do it like that.
The only important thing the note proves to me is that the killer lives pretty close to the Ramsey's (in the neighborhood) and that he didn't know them very much.
Seriously? You believe that an unknown killer, w/ detailed knowledge of the Ramsey home, broke in, waited HOURS and then killed the little girl? This same killer then wrote a note in handwriting similar to the mother's and mentioned an amount of a bonus that the father received from his job?

AND....this same killer left the home unnoticed by either the Ramsey's or the neighbors, has gone years w/o admitting his/her guilt and has been able to lead a "normal life" despite strangling a small child to death?

Had this case not been bungled so badly, I believe that at least one member of the Ramsey family would have indicted and possibly convicted for this crime. The "stranger killing" narrative just doesn't seem to have any credibility in this case.
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Seriously? You believe that an unknown killer, w/ detailed knowledge of the Ramsey home, broke in, waited HOURS and then killed the little girl? This same killer then wrote a note in handwriting similar to the mother's and mentioned an amount of a bonus that the father received from his job?

AND....this same killer left the home unnoticed by either the Ramsey's or the neighbors, has gone years w/o admitting his/her guilt and has been able to lead a "normal life" despite strangling a small child to death?

Had this case not been bungled so badly, I believe that at least one member of the Ramsey family would have indicted and possibly convicted for this crime. The "stranger killing" narrative just doesn't seem to have any credibility in this case.
You're dead on. I can't believe those pursuing the case now can seriously believe such things. They are just trying to get Burke to tell what (if anything) he knows. It wasn't prosecuted because no one could determine which of the parents to charge with murder and which with accomplice or accessory after the fact, or whether both may have been covering for Burke.

As to confusion by some regarding what happened here, I'll quote what was said following the O. J. trial: "they split a hair, then they split the split." The defense used all sorts of tactics, including not allowing certain evidence to be admitted, to confuse the jury and divert them from the obvious. After they were allowed out of seclusion and heard some of what the public had been hearing all that time, some, if not all, of them changed their minds, but it was too late then. Lou Schmidt did some great work regarding JonBenét's case, but it doesn't change the fact that only three people could have committed that crime. Since it's unlikely all three ganged up on her, it boils down to one, and the only question is which. My money's still on Patsy.

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The thing about the "Ramseys did it" crowd is that they (still to this day) have never settled on who they actually think is responsible.

"John did it."

"No wait, Patsy did it"

"No wait, Burke did it"

"No wait, John and Patsy together did it",

"No wait, Burke did it and Patsy is covering for him"

Please. If you were going to get me believe someone in the house was responsible, you would have to pick a horse and stick with it. It is simply too easy to say someone in the house was responsible, but not settle on an actual family member (or members).

And that's one of the main reasons I was never convinced someone in the (immediate, at least) family did it.
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