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Old 04-22-2011, 09:02 PM   #61
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I just want to clarify that while I got the impression that Matthew Chase might be gay from his segment I in no way thought it had anything to do with the crime against him.
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I always had a suspicion Dan Tondevold was gay.

The redhead from the mystery hum segment is/was probably a man who was in the process of becoming female. At least that what it looked like to me.
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Was doing some Googling pertaining to Kurt McFall recently.

McFall's mentor, Gabriel Carillo aka "Caradoc," passed away in 2007 and his obituary listed a partner, so I think we can assume he was gay. Also, some things I've found online about the religious group Kurt was involved in at the time of his death indicate that sex is an important part of the practice.

Also from the McFall segment, some Googling pertaining to Hilary Powers revealed that her name in SCA was "Sir Hilary of Serendip."
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Old 05-26-2015, 04:46 PM   #64
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I always had a suspicion Dan Tondevold was gay.

The redhead from the mystery hum segment is/was probably a man who was in the process of becoming female. At least that what it looked like to me.

Not gay, but transgender maybe?
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:47 PM   #65
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Sometimes I felt that the affair angle was overplayed too. It was mentioned that Christi Nichols had been seeing another man, but I never really felt they gave enough evidence to back that up. I think she was looking for a way out and there was never another man - I just thought she wanted to safely get away from Mark.
On Christi's Charley Project page, the narrative describes how police did find a letter in Christi's car--apparently written to the man she was supposed to have been seeing--saying that she would be leaving after Christmas, and that she would contact him again in a few months. Of course, just going on the UM segment alone, I too had the same feeling about it. Ever since I first read about him, I've always wondered who this person was. I wonder if Mark didn't try to pin the blame on him for Christi's disappearance, but there's pretty much zero information on the case outside of several articles over the years that don't really provide much more information than what was given in the segment.
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I also picked up the vibe that Matthew Chase was gay and he lived with his partner and his sister. The feeling wasnt as strong as it was with Selena Edon. Am I the only one who feels Selena Edon is still alive?
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His age (18) and the year (1988) stop me from thinking he's out and already living with his boyfriend and his boyfriend's sister.
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His age (18) and the year (1988) stop me from thinking he's out and already living with his boyfriend and his boyfriend's sister.
Not back then in 1988, but yes in the present.

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Also from the McFall segment, some Googling pertaining to Hilary Powers revealed that her name in SCA was "Sir Hilary of Serendip."
This confirms my suspicion that the McFall segment is among the funniest in UM history.
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Was doing some Googling pertaining to Kurt McFall recently.

McFall's mentor, Gabriel Carillo aka "Caradoc," passed away in 2007 and his obituary listed a partner, so I think we can assume he was gay. Also, some things I've found online about the religious group Kurt was involved in at the time of his death indicate that sex is an important part of the practice.

Also from the McFall segment, some Googling pertaining to Hilary Powers revealed that her name in SCA was "Sir Hilary of Serendip."
So he might of partake in a such a event, but may of not like doing it?
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So he might of partake in a such a event, but may of not like doing it?
One of the articles I read indicated that Carillo had been criticized because he engaged in sex with students as part of the rituals. It was mentioned in the UM segment that Kurt may have uncovered something unsettling about the cult and I'm wondering if this could have been it, or it may have been something along those lines.

On that note, I don't see it as a gay or straight issues, just the "creep factor" that Carillo might sleep with his followers, or have this as an expectation (assuming he did).
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One of the articles I read indicated that Carillo had been criticized because he engaged in sex with students as part of the rituals. It was mentioned in the UM segment that Kurt may have uncovered something unsettling about the cult and I'm wondering if this could have been it, or it may have been something along those lines.

On that note, I don't see it as a gay or straight issues, just the "creep factor" that Carillo might sleep with his followers, or have this as an expectation (assuming he did).
I'm not surprise since sex sometimes does play a major factor in most of these groups regardless of gender, age, and sexual orientation.
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I'm not surprise since sex sometimes does play a major factor in most of these groups regardless of gender, age, and sexual orientation.
I found a website that basically lays out the key concepts of their religion and practices. There are tracts about the group's philosophies on many different topics including, among many other things, sex. Of course, I skimmed it. There was some stuff about how teenagers naturally want to experiment and that it's too bad they don't have a safe place where they can experiment with each other sexually. Here is the link if anyone is interested...

http://witcheye.com/ironpent.html

Now, I'm not saying that I definitely think this is what went down in regard to Kurt McFall, but suppose that Carillo was, for lack of a better word, a chicken hawk type who used his religion to attract teenagers and manipulate them into situations where they would feel obligated to have sex with him.

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I have confirmation that Matt Chase was in fact, gay. Managed to find this link, after not having found anything about this case on the net in years.

He took a mannequin to the prom in protest after not being allowed to take his boyfriend (presumably Steven Dahl)

http://forums.previously.tv/topic/18...unforgettable/

I'm dying to know some of the other "stunts" he pulled.
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Forgive me for not recalling the details but there was this case of a female US Marshall who got shot to death and, evidently, the killer/s took her gun. Anyway, there was this other female US Marshall who pleaded with the viewers to help solve the murder AND to have that gun found so she could have it. Somehow if it turned out that had more in common than being amongst the earliest female US Marshalls it wouldn't have come as a complete surprise to me.
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