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View Poll Results: Archie Bunkers Place is a??
Spinoff? 7 28.00%
Continuation? 17 68.00%
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:16 PM   #61
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Norman Lear called it an extension during a 1981 interview with Bill Moyers, I posted an excerpt from it earlier in the thread.
I think at the time it was considered an extension but today most people consider it a spin-off. I usually consider a show a spin-off if it is syndicated as such. lol
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I think at the time it was considered an extension but today most people consider it a spin-off. I usually consider a show a spin-off if it is syndicated as such. lol
I guess you could look at it from that perspective but I go by the original airing of the show not the syndication of it so in that respect it is a continuation.
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It is a great book but their are some mistakes in it. For example it does state that The Lucy Show ran 12 years. It counts The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy as one series which it clearly is not.
I have a copy of the Brooks & March book, first edition, and concerning The Lucy Show, it also started the falsehood that The Lucy Show moved to San Francisco instead of Los Angeles w/ season 4. Otherwise, it's been mostly a great compendium of the history of prime time network (and now other) tv shows.
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It is a great book but their are some mistakes in it. For example it does state that The Lucy Show ran 12 years. It counts The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy as one series which it clearly is not.

As for ABP I consider it a spin-off mainly because it's syndicated as a different package. Back when the show originally aired though I thought of it as a continuation. I don't remember a lot of hype saying it was a brand new show.
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Too many mistakes, therefore, not a book he refers to.
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I have a copy of the Brooks & March book, first edition, and concerning The Lucy Show, it also started the falsehood that The Lucy Show moved to San Francisco instead of Los Angeles w/ season 4. Otherwise, it's been mostly a great compendium of the history of prime time network (and now other) tv shows.
I've gotten every edition since it first came out and it is the best book on TV out there but yea their are some errors in it. I wish they would correct some.
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Here is what Sol said abt that book:
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Too many mistakes, therefore, not a book he refers to.
lol I guess when you research so many shows, mistakes are going to be made. You'd think some of them would be corrected by the 8th edition though. Still all in all I don't think another book goes into as much details of each show as this one does.
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And as far as all the links posted here for this debate, let me refresh what was said abt websites and links:
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I've never heard anyone say that Archie Bunkers Place WAS a spin-off. No web pages, no sources, nothing. Solomon might not go by books and websites when people say that Good Times is a spin-off of Maude, but he actually had a reliable source about Good Times not being a spinoff of Maude, so it's understandable. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, that's a different topic for a different time and from what I understand, a worn out topic too.

Until theres facts which state that ABP WAS a spin-off of All in the Family, I'll always believe ABP is a continuation of AITF.
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I didn't even know that there was a term "continuation" for tv shows. What other shows are continuations, and what's the criteria for a show being a continuation as opposed to a spin-off?
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Well it's 69% saying It's a Continuation BRIE!-lol
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I didn't even know that there was a term "continuation" for tv shows. What other shows are continuations, and what's the criteria for a show being a continuation as opposed to a spin-off?

a Show is a Continuation if the MAIN character is still on the show. Example, Three's a Crowd with Jack Tripper and Archie Bunker Place with Archie Bunker Place. I guess AfterMash too
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I still haven't voted. I am still "researching".
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Continuation, the last season of All in the Family is about Archie and his bar, what is the difference? Plus Stephanie was on both shows. She is a completly different character than Meathead and Gloria, but she was already a regular when Bunkers place began. The series was also in the same time slot as All in the Family's last season. Same network, same time, same everything.
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I think it's a continuation same character different situation with most episodes taking place at the bar.
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I don't know about that one. To me, a Continuation can have both shows in syndication, airing together as one show. AfterMash, to me, doesn't go that easily together with M*A*S*H as one show.

I believe the main reason they split All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place in syndication is because there's thirteen seasons. And they figure most people just want to watch the classic Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers seasons, so they figured the tenth season would be the place to cut it off since it had a new title and theme.

And while I'm trying to stay on topic, I'm surprised that What's Happening!! and What's Happening Now!! are considered two different shows in syndication. I've always thought of "Now" as just seasons 4, 5 and 6 but they happened to be made seven years later. If a cartoon does that, it goes with the first run in reruns (The Jetsons, Family Guy, soon Futurama).
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