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Old 01-26-2011, 12:04 PM   #31
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It's not like I didn't like the episode "Silent Treatment", but I think they could have made it more believable in regards to Ward's reaction to Beaver's mean behavior toward June. First of all, Ward was smarter then what they made him, he would have caught on immmediately to what he was doing to June. Second of all, when he di find out the score, he still beat around the bush with the kid instead of flat out telling him to treat his mother with some respect. In many episodes we hear Ward saying something like, "You have upset your mother" or "You have worried your mother" or "Don't upset your mother." In other words, Ward has always been somewhat protective of June's feelings so it's unbelievable to me that he didn't even warn Beaver that if he didn't straighten up that he would take him to the shed. He had Beaver thinking that he had gotten away with hurting June's feelings until Wally said his father about clobbered him. I think this is one episode where Ward should have let the kid have it!
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During the 6th season, the series had some subtle changes and a few weaker episodes slipped into the mix. A couple of those are "Beaver On TV" and "Box Office Attraction". Not saying these are bad episodes, they're just different. Box Office Attraction is unusual for a LITB episode in the fact it ends on a somber, dramatic note. Wally's dream girl ends up not being the type of girl he thought she was. Beaver On TV almost plays out like a spoof of the Twilight Zone, kind of a weird episode. I've noticed in the last season of LITB, other TV shows of the era sometimes get a mention in the episodes. McHale's Navy, The Untouchables, Twilight Zone, Jack Paar, Captain Kangaroo, all of these get a mention at one time or another. That's unusual. I think LITB ended at the right time, 6 seasons was enough. That last season took a bit of a different direction, a little more mature, a little more serious. The series had lost some of the innocence it previously had, but then again Beaver and Wally were getting older. Some scripts worked and other scripts didn't go over as well.

Wally graduated from high school in the 6th season, but he was said to have already been in high school in the 2nd season. That would have been 5 years in high school for Wally, that is wrong. There's a discrepancy in the continuity of Beaver's school years also. So I just figure that during the shows 6 season duration, Wally attended the 7th thru 12th grades, and Beaver attended 3rd thru 8th grade. Both moving up one grade per season. That would be correct.
Actually "Beaver on TV" is one of my favorites, with all its contemporary references. I especially took it as an inside joke when Gilbert was talking about Rod Serling, since Stephen Talbot himself made two TZ appearances around the same time he was playing Gilbert. "Box Office Attraction" did seem a bit sophisticated for LitB. From what I remember, Wally may have gotten his only serious kiss in that episode.

I also noticed that it took Wally 6 years to get through 5 grades. I think that the "repeated" grade must have happened around Season 4, since it was definitely stated that Wally, Eddie & Lumpy were in 10th grade when Eddie & Lumpy tried to cheat on their history test in Season 3.

Speaking of repeated grades, Lumpy did even worse, since I think he was supposed to be 16 years old and well into high school in Season 1. For him to be Eddie & Wally's age and in their grade, he had to go backward a few grades!
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It was mentioned in season three that Lumpy had to repeat the 10th grade.


Also about Wally moving up in grades, I posted a seperate thread here about that.
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I've always liked the "Box Office Attraction" episode. It shows how Wally is tempted by: smoking, drinking, and an agressive girl; yet he maintains his standards. Such circumstances have taken place in many of our lives.

Of interest, Diane Sayer, who played "Marlene" in that episode was actually seven years older than Tony Dow. Sadly, she passed away from cancer in 2001 at the age of 63.
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"The Poor Loser" and "The Book Report" showed a lack of maturity on Beaver's part too, though Beaver's description of The Three Musketeers having watched a comedy movie was funny.
It was not unlike George Constanza watching the VHS of Breakfast at Tiffaniy's instead of reading the book.
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Many celebrities named in this episode! How many can you name?

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It's not like I didn't like the episode "Silent Treatment", but I think they could have made it more believable in regards to Ward's reaction to Beaver's mean behavior toward June. First of all, Ward was smarter then what they made him, he would have caught on immmediately to what he was doing to June. Second of all, when he di find out the score, he still beat around the bush with the kid instead of flat out telling him to treat his mother with some respect. In many episodes we hear Ward saying something like, "You have upset your mother" or "You have worried your mother" or "Don't upset your mother." In other words, Ward has always been somewhat protective of June's feelings so it's unbelievable to me that he didn't even warn Beaver that if he didn't straighten up that he would take him to the shed. He had Beaver thinking that he had gotten away with hurting June's feelings until Wally said his father about clobbered him. I think this is one episode where Ward should have let the kid have it!
I agree about Ward, he seemed too slow on figuring out what Beaver was doing to June.
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The only thing about Box Office Attractionis the scene where Marlene makes Wally pull over, and then pulls him in a kiss, and Wally is stunned. I think that was overdone. Keep in mind Wally was a straight 18 year old boy. I dont think most boys would push away a pretty girl making the first moves. Its usually the other way around with the boy making the first move, and the girl pushing him off.
His reaction was hilarious. "Golly!"
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Many celebrities named in this episode! How many can you name?

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It was definitely a pop culture episode, they even mention The Twilight Zone.
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I've seen adults do it.
This exactly.
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Although I usually like the "totally grounded in reality" shows, I have to admit that "In The Soup" made me laugh more than any other episode. Eddie's switch from "Some stupid kid got stuck" to "Some unfortunate young person is trapped" (when Ward was there) was priceless.
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Beaver's Autobiography is not a favorite.
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Agreed!!!!

Me, too!!! A bad Beaver episode??? What???

Seriously, though, I do think there were a few weak ones after Larry Mondello "disappeared" and the show's brass was trying to find a new best friend for Beaver (such as Gilbert or Whitey). If you watch these eps, it almost looks as though they're auditioning these kids onscreen to see if they could step into Rusty Stevens' shoes. Unfortunately, they couldn't because while these kids were good little actors, and funny, they were much better suited to being Beaver's school pals. Just being funny wasn't enough if you wanted to be Beaver's bff, you really had to be hilarious--and Larry Mondello, imo, fit that bill to a T (In fact, you could almost say that Larry was Beaver's Eddie Haskell ) And I don't think it was a coincidence that shortly after TPTB made several attempts to replace Larry as Beaver's best friend (without much success), they then shifted the focus for the remaining 3 years much more to Wally (and Eddie, of course) and away from Beaver. (And, of course, Wally turning into such a heart-throb didn't hurt, either ) I really wish that the producers had found a way to work things out with Rusty's mom (assuming that those stories are true), because, imo, Larry turned out to be irreplacable

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Love your post!

Yes, nobody could replace Larry and his apple. I don't know the story of the actor's mother - did she not want him to continue on the series?

Sometimes Richard, Whitey, and Gilbert got on my nerves. But Larry never did.

I agree with you about Wally the heartthrob too! Dreamy!
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Beaver's Autobiography is not a favorite.
I like that one! Beaver has some good lines! "After two pages, my life was all used up."

Beaver: "Betsy's real good at stretching stuff out She's gonna write that when I was born the rain was beating against the Window Pane, saying "Pitter-Patter, Pitter-Patter, Pitter-Patter."

Wally: "You can't have a whole page of nothing but pitter-patters!" LOL! I don't know about this, having a girl write a guy's autobiography."

Beaver: "She was head of her English class at Bellport. What's wrong with her helping me?"

Wally: "Look Beaver, suppose she forgets herself and starts writing about the first time she went to the beauty parlor. Or the first pair of stockings she ever bought!. Mr. Thompson might get up and read that to the whole class!"

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