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Old 11-16-2009, 11:17 AM   #1
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Has there ever been an update on this case?

If you don't remember, this was the case of the boy who went to a party and then ended up dead in a ravine about 5 days later not too far from the apartment complex where the party was.

The questions revolved around the strange events between the night of the party and the time his body was discovered.

In the UM segment, they focused on the mysterious "Susan" who threw the party and who, interestingly, did not participate in the UM investigation. Apparently, Susan changed her story several times about even knowing Kurt up to the point of admitting that Kurt was asleep in her basement the day before they discovered his body.

So they had other scenarios too:

1) He drank too much and passed out. Someone took him outside to get him air and when they came back he was gone.

2) He was supposedly seen by a friend walking near a main road and before the friend could offer a ride, Kurt - who was accompanied by a stranger - called out to someone named "Franco" who was driving a van. Kurt and the stranger got into the van. (Note: UM stories always have a sinister van, have you noticed that?)

3) Some weirdo from Detroit mentioned Kurt's death before the body was found after seeing a missing person poster. This person also went as far as sending a bouquet of roses to the female record store clerk he mentioned this to with a threat to her as well. Because Kurt's body hadn't been found yet, the police let this person go.

4) Kurt's father went to Susan's basement where Kurt supposedly had been. The father said that someone definitely had been sleeping there but there was no evidence of who.

The crazy part about this was the lack of cause of death. This is one of the strangest cases I have ever seen. But from working in social work for a little while earlier in my career, I can say that people can end up in very strange and unpredictable situations that would seem ridiculous in retrospect. Especially when outside parties try to reconstruct a sequence of events.

Most likely, I feel that Kurt got caught up with a bunch of popular, but dangerous, older people who showed him a good time and exposed him to hard drugs and possibly other unfamiliar situations. I'm guessing that Kurt had a bad reaction to a combination of drugs and alcohol and passed out. The people he was with panicked, and sent him back to Susan's apartment where he eventually died.

I don't know how the weirdo from Detroit factors into this.

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I don't think there was ever an update to this case. I did see this post that MegtheEgg86 made which she got from an old article from a Cleveland paper called The Plain Dealer from 1991, which contains some more interesting info not presented in the UM segment:

Plain Dealer, The (Cleveland, OH)



October 27, 1991

WOUNDS STILL FRESH FROM SON'S DEATH ONE DECADE AGO


Author: BILL SAMMON PLAIN DEALER REPORTER

Edition: FINAL / WEST
Section: NATIONAL
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His body was cruciform, arms outstretched, head to one side, one knee slightly bent and one foot atop the other.

It was found by three boys cutting through a Newburgh Heights ravine 10 years ago tomorrow. But the passing of a decade has only served to deepen the mystery surrounding the disappearance of 17-year-old Kurt E. Sova and the discovery of his body five days later.

For Kurt's parents, Kenneth and Dorothy Sova of Cleveland's Slavic Village neighborhood, the last 10 years have seemed like 100. They said their initial suspicions that Newburgh Heights police were bungling the investigation were gradually confirmed as one by one, the police in power were brought down by charges ranging from falsifying credentials to drug trafficking.

The man who worried the Sovas the most turned out to be worst of the bunch. Robert Carras, the tiny village's only detective and the man who headed the Sova investigation, was later exposed! as a drug addict with a record of bludgeoning and stomping handcuffed prisoners. This year, he was sentenced to a prison term of six to 15 years.

Carras' investigation of the Sova case was a joke, according to those who later waded through its wreckage, including Cleveland police, the county sheriff's and prosecutor's offices, even the FBI. There were no photos of Kurt's body as it was found, no search of the house where Kurt was last seen alive and no written statements from those who were with Kurt the night he disappeared.

Even the cause of death remains a mystery. The Cuyahoga County coroner's office performed a full autopsy but could not determine what killed the perfectly healthy teen-ager.

Last year, Cuyahoga County Assistant Prosecutor James A. Gutierrez asked Carras whether he had any involvement in Kurt's disappearance and death. After all, Carras once took a crime suspect to a back lot off Harvard Ave. - close to where Kurt was foun! d - and allegedly tried to provoke him into a fight.

! Carras denied any involvement in Kurt's death, Gutierrez said. Carras declined to be interviewed by The Plain Dealer for this story.

But the very thought that the man investigating their son's disappearance and death would later be questioned in the case has deeply troubled Ken and Dorothy Sova.

With the anniversary of Kurt's death approaching, the Sovas find themselves looking back to happier times when their fourth and closest son was still a vibrant part of their lives.

"Kurt was my baby," said Dorothy Sova, unable to stem her tears. "And I often blame myself for letting him remain my baby. While my older boys were adults at 12, he was still a baby at 17. He still went with me to places. He still shopped with me. He still went on vacation with us."

Yet Kurt's personality had a side he did not share with his parents. Like many teens, he was not averse to smoking marijuana or drinking booze on weekends, according to his friends.

Fr! iday, Oct. 23, 1981, was no exception. Kurt cut school and went to a liquor store, where he persuaded an adult to buy him a fifth of 190-proof Everclear, a potent liquor that since has been banned from Ohio liquor stores because it killed a Michigan man.

Kurt drank the afternoon away at his girlfriend's house, then joined a friend, Samuel C. Carroll, for a party that night at the home of Debbie Sams and her brother, Clayton. The Samses and a female roommate rented the upstairs of a double house on Harvard Ave. in Newburgh Heights.

Kurt's drinking continued at the party and he began stumbling around, knocking things over. Then, he got sick.

"The roommate asked me to please get him out of the house, so I helped him down the stairs and to the outside," Carroll said.

"We were out there about 20 or 30 minutes and it was cold out there - we were both in T-shirts," Carroll continued. "I then went to go and get the jackets upstairs. ... I got t! he jackets and went back down and he wasn't there. I was only ! upstairs about two or three minutes."

Carroll roamed nearby side streets and checked the parking lot of a J.L. Goodman Furniture Inc. warehouse, not far from where Kurt's body eventually was found. Finally, assuming Kurt had gone home, Carroll returned to the party.

"I can only guess that someone he knew picked him up because it happened that fast," Carroll said. "Someone had to pick him up in a car."

By then, Dorothy Sova already was out looking for her son, whom she had not seen since 7:30 a.m. She drove to several of Kurt's usual hangouts, but returned home alone for the first of several sleepless nights.

By dawn, the Sovas were really worried. For a thorough search, they enlisted a small army of friends and relatives, who fanned out over the ethnic, working-class neighborhood, asking anyone and everyone if they had seen Kurt. They searched alleys, ravines, even Dumpsters.

"We were in teams. We must have had 40 people looking for him! day and night," Dorothy Sova recalled.

That Sunday, Dorothy Sova filed a missing-person report with Cleveland police. Kurt's older brothers printed up fliers bearing Kurt's photo and information about his disappearance. Kurt's face went up in stores and on utility poles all over the neighborhood.

Dorothy Sova acknowledged that after finding out from Carroll about the party at the Samses' house, her family's repeated visits amounted to harassment. They recovered Kurt's jacket there but came up with nothing to aid the search.

After several days, Police Chief James F. Lukas ordered them to stay away from the house.

On Monday, an eerie occurrence at a Slavic Village record shop foreshadowed the discovery of Kurt's body. An apparently homeless man had been hanging around the shop for a couple of weeks and had bragged of having access to bodies flown into Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. He had bragged of removing shoes from the bo! dies.

On this day, the man showed up and pointed to ! a flier of Kurt taped to the window.

"He says: 'They're gonna find him and they're gonna find him in two days and they're not gonna know what happened to him,' said Judy Oros, who was manager of the store. "He was right."

The next morning, the Sovas heard that Kurt might have been sleeping on a cot in the Samses' basement. Kenneth Sova and his sons went to the house, kicked in a door and searched the basement. There was a cot, but no sign of Kurt.

Shortly before 5:30 p.m., three neighborhood boys cut behind the J.L. Goodman warehouse on Harvard Ave. and headed through some neighboring steel yards. As they passed through a ravine, they saw something that made them stop.

It was a human body lying face-up in a puddle, just a few feet from where Kenneth Sova had searched the night before. The boys ran to a workman, who summoned police.

"When we arrived there, his body was laid out like Christ on the cross," said Paul T. Grzesik, who was ! a part-time patrolman at the time. "One shoe was found nearby. We never found the other (right) shoe."

The scene at the county morgue is burned into Kenneth Sova's brain: "I said I wanted to see the body, so they pulled open the drapes," he recalled. "I felt sort of hurt because there was mud on his face and they didn't even wipe him off. He looked cold. He looked so cold. He was lying there as if to say, 'Dad, I'm so cold. Take me home.'

Kurt had a bruise on one cheek and numerous bruises on his shins. A few scratches and nicks were found on his body. But there were no bullet holes, knife wounds, needle punctures or internal injuries. The coroner's office was baffled.

Of the approximately 1,200 autopsies performed each year by the coroner's office, the cause of death eludes pathologists in one or two cases, said Cuyahoga County Coroner Elizabeth Balraj.

"You can stop the machinery without damaging the machinery," explained Dr. Lester! Adelson, who worked at the coroner's office at the time.
Ku rt had a blood-alcohol level of 0.11%, slightly higher than Ohio's legal definition of drunkenness; not nearly high enough to kill him. Tests for cocaine and LSD turned up negative. Since no one admitted witnessing foul play, the death was ruled "probable accidental."


News of Kurt's death traveled quickly through the tightly knit community. The predictions of the homeless man in the record store had come true, sending a chill down Oros' spine.

To make matters worse, when Oros arrived at the record store Thursday morning, a neighboring merchant gave her a bouquet of flowers left for her by the man.

"There was a note in it," Oros recalled. "It said: 'Roses are red, the sky is blue. They found him dead and they'll find you, too.'

By the time the man showed up at the store again, Oros had alerted Cleveland police, who sent two detectives.

"They took him outside and were sitting in their car with him," Oros recalled. "They checked! him out. They told me he was just some wacko from Detroit."

The man was released and Oros never saw him again. The man was never interviewed by Newburgh Heights police.

Newburgh Heights police never talked with Angeline Reddicks, either. She says she saw two males dragging what appeared to be an unconscious teen-age boy toward the ravine where Kurt's body later was found.

"I seen them taking a boy down the alley. It was just before Halloween," said Reddicks, who said she witnessed the scene one afternoon from a window in her house on Washington Park Blvd. "One foot was barefoot. I'm almost sure it was the right one. I figured: 'Couple teen-agers with a couple beers too many and they're probably trying to sober up.'

A few days later, Reddicks learned that Kurt's body had been found in the ravine. But she said she never told police what she saw because her husband told her, "You know, Mom, we gotta mind our business."

More th! an a year later, Reddicks by chance met Kenneth Sova on a stre! et and r elated what she had seen. Dorothy Sova said she passed Reddicks' information to the Newburgh Heights police, but Reddicks never heard from them. She said the only officers who interviewed her were sheriff's detectives in 1989.

"I'm not surprised they (Newburgh Heights police) didn't interview her," Dorothy Sova said. "They didn't interview half the people who came to me with stuff. Carras kept playing me off as the mother who would not accept her son's death."

The death she accepts. But she is tortured by unanswered questions: Where was Kurt during the five days between the party and the discovery of his body? How did he die? How did his body end up in the ravine?

She tirelessly tracks down rumors about Kurt that still swirl through the neighborhood's taverns and around its street corners. She seizes upon shreds of information on similar deaths in Greater Cleveland.

One death right in the neighborhood less than four months later bore a st! riking resemblance to Kurt's case. The body of 13-year-old Eugene C. Kvet, who lived one block north of the Sovas, was found in a Cleveland ravine off Harvard Ave. Eugene's right shoe also was missing.

The autopsy findings said Eugene died from falling into the ravine.

Undaunted by this and many other dead ends, Dorothy Sova has succeeded in getting four law enforcement agencies to reinvestigate Kurt's case. But each has come up empty. The trail is too cold.

"The initial investigation done by the Newburgh Heights police was a joke. A joke," said Gutierrez, who reopened the case for the prosecutor's office last year. "If I had known about some of this stuff earlier, I probably would have indicted some people on dereliction of duty. There was no police investigation whatsoever. It was unbelievable. The people who ran Newburgh Heights, from a law enforcement perspective, in the early '80s ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Police Chief L! ukas disagreed.

"I felt it was a pretty good investi! gation, based on the fact that we really didn't have a lot to go on. Nobody would even talk," Lukas said last week. "We didn't have a cause of death and that was the biggest problem. If they would have at least given us a cause of death, we would have had something to go on."

The Newburgh Heights police file on Kurt's case contains four Polaroid photos of Kurt's body after it had been loaded on a stretcher and was about to be placed in an ambulance. Asked why the file holds no photos of Kurt's body as it was found, a routine police practice, Lukas said: "I know there were photos taken. I'm almost positive there were photos."

Asked why no forensics specialists were called to the crime scene, Lukas said: "You've got to remember one thing: We were a small police department. We didn't have no forensics specialist."

Other law enforcement agencies say the tiny force should have asked Cleveland to send a specialist to the scene. Dorothy Sova said Newburgh Heig! hts rejected an offer of help from Cleveland police immediately after the body was found.

Asked why his officers did not obtain a search warrant for the Samses' house, where Kurt was last seen alive, Lukas said: "We had no reason to search it."

Eighteen months after the death, Dorothy Sova persuaded Cleveland Police Detective Al Figler to investigate the case. The first thing Figler wanted was the case file.

"When I went to talk to Carras, there must have been three or four pieces of paper thrown in a manila folder with four Polaroids," said Figler, who spent eight years working on the case. "It was a joke. Basic detective work would demand more documents than that."

The FBI also opened an investigation of the Sova case last year when the agency charged Carras with brutally beating five crime suspects. One of those suspects was Eric Kotonski, whom Carras arrested on suspicion of drunken driving. Kotonski said that when he refused to s! urrender his car keys, Carras bashed him in the head with a fl! ashlight .

Carras later picked up Kotonski at the hospital to drive him back to the Newburgh Heights police station. But he made an unexpected stop and tried to taunt the handcuffed prisoner into another fight, Kotonski said.

"He took me behind J.L. Goodman Furniture," said Kotonski, referring to the Harvard Ave. warehouse near where Kurt's body was found. "But I wouldn't get out of the car. I had already been beaten up once and I wasn't going to go through it again."

The five beatings for which Carras was convicted all occurred in 1988 and 1989. But prisoners weren't all he abused. There also was Percocet, a potent and addictive painkiller. Last year, Carras was convicted on 76 counts of aggravated drug trafficking and illegal processing of drug documents.

Carras was fired from the Newburgh Heights Police Department in January.

Five months before that, Lukas was permanently banned from law enforcement for helping to arrange phony polic! e credentials for a Newburgh Heights dispatcher.

That was not Lukas' first crime conviction. In 1984, he pleaded guilty to dereliction of duty for allowing gambling at a party where he was working while off duty.

But Lukas said his run-ins with the law should not reflect on his handling of the Sova case.

"That's not even fair. What happened was completely unrelated," Lukas said. "That's the only part I take offense to. That (Sova) case was handled on the up and up."

Not according to the Sheriff's Department, the only agency still actively investigating the case.

"It's kind of been botched since the beginning," said Detective Sgt. Don Mester. "We had a very difficult time getting records from Carras and the Newburgh Heights Police Department. But as long as I'm here, we'll consider the case open."

Carras has refused to be interviewed by the Sheriff's Department, Mester said. But Mester and his partner, Detective Len! Smith, are pursuing the probe and have conducted several othe! r interv iews in recent weeks.

And the Sovas keep waiting for answers.

"It has taken 10 years of our lives. It has literally crushed our family," Dorothy Sova said, clutching an armful of files she has accumulated on the case. "Sometimes I think I should just take all this stuff and throw it in the fire and get on with my life. But you can't go on with your life because you're constantly hearing different things about it."

As the tears returned, Dorothy Sova caressed the yellowed, dog-eared birth certificate imprinted with Kurt's infant footprints.

"I rememember all the good things, the fun things about him," Dorothy Sova said. "Oh, God, he was just a lovable boy."

Caption:
PHOTOS BY: PD/GUS CHAN

PHOTO 1: Dorothy Sova with her dog, Holli, and a photo of her son, Kurt, when he was 15. Mystery still shrouds Kurt's death 10 years ago.

PHOTO 2: ROBERT CARRAS: His investigation of Kurt E. Sova's death has been criticized by other officials, and Carras himself was questioned.





Copyright 1991, 2002 The Plain Dealer. All Rights Reserved. Used by NewsBank with Permission.
Record Number: 06300093

Which I saw on this page/thread not too long ago: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...=165453&page=8


It seems the cops majorly dropped the ball on this one.
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I am now beginning to wonder, What was the cause of death? liike many people, I thought maybe something to do w/ alcohol. However, after reading that article, I had no idea that he skipped school that day and was drinking Everclear all day at his girlfriend's house. This obviously goes to show that he HAD drank before and that nothing had previously happened (your first time drinking isn't during the day while skipping school.)

I am just really wondering what it could have been though, maybe a reaction of alcohol with something else? And what about the woman who saw the teenagers taking him into the ravine (she said in the afternoon? seems strange) I wish they would reinterview some of those people now, including her.
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How about the "crazy from Detroit" saying, "Nobody's gonna know how he died." Didn't the autopsy fail to find a cause of death? Alcohol or other intoxication should have been spotted.
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Why did they test only for cocaine and LSD? There are plenty of other drugs which, when combined with alcohol, can cause death.
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who was the mysterious susan mentioned on the UM segment? was she the room-mate?
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All evidence points to Kurt being intentionally placed in the quarry.

Someone knew he was either dead or in distress. That person(s)excaserbated and contributed to Kurt's death.
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This was just on Spike at 2 am and I feel as creeped out by it now as the first time that I saw it. I hope that one day we find out what happened here but I am not optimistic.
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All evidence points to Kurt being intentionally placed in the quarry.

Someone knew he was either dead or in distress. That person(s)excaserbated and contributed to Kurt's death.
I agree. But what bothers me is that that particular area was actually rather well-frequented--children played there and workers were often in the vicinity (there was a warehouse in front of the ravine). I've traveled through Newburgh Heights more than a few times, and it really surprised me initially how many people utilize the sidewalks, walking to get to where they need to be. I imagine this was even more so the case in 1981. Why place a body in an essentially high-traffic area? Whoever put him there had to know he was going to be found.
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(Warning: this is a long post.)

(I discount the Eugene Kvett connection. It was believed that Eugene fell into the ravine. I also believe that the "crazy from Detroit" had no connection. The "crazy" wrote that the record-store lady would be found dead in the near future (in October 1981) and she never was, she stayed alive, so I think he was just "crazy".)

(I read about someone claiming to have a bad allregic reaction while drinking everclear when researching it online and believe that somethng similar may have happened to Kurt.)

Here's my 2 theories of what might have happened to Kurt:

1. Kurt had an allergic reaction to everclear or some other alcohol he was drinking or an undetected heart defect and passed out or fell into a coma either shortly after getting to the party or after being at the party for a little while. Most everyone at the party freaked out, unsure of what was happening to Kurt, and they picked him up and put him in the basement cot. When asked by Kurt's parents and visited by Kurt's parents in the following days, they lied about having a party and never told them that he was in the basement when they visited, fearing punishment if Kurt's parents found him there. The people at the house possibly tried to wake Kurt or bring him back to health and were unsuccessful. Kurt passes away on Monday 10/26/81 or Tuesday 10/27/81. The people at the house realize it and two guys there move his body on Tuesday (10/27) or Wednesday (10/28) afternoon/early evening. One of the girls at the house, "Susan" and/or Debbie Sams, calls Kurt's parents house at approximately 3:30 AM on 10/28 and tells them that she thinks Kurt's sleeping in the basement to try and misdirect Kurt's parents from finding him. David Trusnick's eyewitness account ends up being inaccurate and some kids alert the authorities finding Kurt's body in the ravine on Wednesday afternoon/early evening (10/28/1981).

2. Kurt ends up rebelling and not coming home after the Friday night party and goes on "roadies" and stuff with people he met for the first time at the party for a few days. David Trusnick's eyewitness account ends up being accurate and Kurt ends up trying drugs on Monday morning/afternoon that he wasn't tested for in his later autopsy. Kurt passes away from those drugs on late Monday or Tuesday and the people that Kurt was with drive back to the party house at some point and put Kurt in the basement on Monday night or early Tuesday. Two guys move his body to the ravine on Tuesday or Wednesday and "Susan" and/or Debbie Sams thinks that Kurt's in the basement for some reason (maybe she was working and the guys didn't tell her that they moved his body when she got back from work) and decides to call Kurt's parents at approximately 3:30 AM on Wednesday. And then Kurt's body is found Wednesday afternoon/early evening.
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If he wasn't tested for other drugs, why couldn't they have exhumed the body and done more testing? That's what puzzles me.
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If he wasn't tested for other drugs, why couldn't they have exhumed the body and done more testing? That's what puzzles me.
Maybe he can still be exhumed. But all possible traces of other drugs would not be found in him after 28-and-a-half years, right?

I always get the feeling that his parents and family were not assertive enough in trying to get to the bottom of this. I know the Newburgh Heights police did not help AT ALL, but the parents still could have been more persistent. They should take the iniative and have him exhumed to see if a new forensic pathologist (maybe a well-known one like Dr. Michael Baden) can find anything that the original pathologist did not find back in October/November 1981.

If I knew where the people involved in this case were (Kurt's friend he supposedly went to the party with Samuel C. Carroll, Kurt's girlfriend, whose name is not given in any articles, Debbie Sams, Clayton Sams, "Susan", "Franco") I would interrogate the he** out of them. The parents should have done that back then. The people involved needed someone intimidating to interrogate them.
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Maybe he can still be exhumed. But all possible traces of other drugs would not be found in him after 28-and-a-half years, right?

I always get the feeling that his parents and family were not assertive enough in trying to get to the bottom of this. I know the Newburgh Heights police did not help AT ALL, but the parents still could have been more persistent. They should take the iniative and have him exhumed to see if a new forensic pathologist (maybe a well-known one like Dr. Michael Baden) can find anything that the original pathologist did not find back in October/November 1981.

If I knew where the people involved in this case were (Kurt's friend he supposedly went to the party with Samuel C. Carroll, Kurt's girlfriend, whose name is not given in any articles, Debbie Sams, Clayton Sams, "Susan", "Franco") I would interrogate the he** out of them. The parents should have done that back then. The people involved needed someone intimidating to interrogate them.
Weren't "assertive enough"? Did you not read that article synthisislab reposted a few posts back?

Dorothy Sova had followed tons of leads on her own, amounting to stacks of files by 1991. I'd be more than willing to bet there's been more than considerable addition to those since then.

Did you not consider that maybe the Sovas couldn't afford a lawyer to make a case for exhumation, or a "high profile" forensic pathologist (who do definitely charge for their services) to examine Kurt's body? Newburgh Heights, OH isn't exactly the nation's greatest concentration of wealth.

If any party is to blame, it's by far the Newburgh Heights Police Department, whose shoddy initial investigation work is utterly disturbing to consider. It certainly didn't help that the lead detective was a pill-popping and -dealing loon who was fired from his own organization for his illicit activities, not to mention a 1988 police brutality scandal. The Sovas have already gone far and beyond what so many families and friends of victims do, because they HAD to. Their son's death was improperly handled by the authorities. One certainly can't expect them to do the work of an entire investigatory agency. To accuse them of being lacksidasical about what happened to Kurt is absolutely ludicrous.
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while I feel alot of the supposed eyewitness accounts on UM are completely bogus, I always thought one of the more believable ones was Kurt Sova's friend. And I say that for 2 reasons.

1. Whereas alot of the other eyewitness accounts are from people that have never known the person they claimed to see, this is Kurt's friend. someone that knew him. someone that knew what he looked like. I think it would be highly unlikely that a friend would be mistaken, and he certainly wouldn't have offered the person a ride if it wasn't him.

2. Kurt's friend saw him on a Monday I believe. The last confirmed sighting of Kurt was the previous Friday, but that does not necessarily mean he died on the Friday, so Kurt's friend's sighting is possible.

With that being said, this case has a creepy Jennifer Pratt quality to it, in that I get the nagging feeling that not just one, but many people know what really happened to Kurt, but aren't coming forward out of fear.

And I always thought the crazy from Detroit should have been examined more. He obviously knows something.
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At death, all metabolic processes cease. Despite the embalming process and natural decay over time, if tissue samples were not available toxicology could still be performed on bone marrow, which would still be viable. I may be beating a dead horse here, but unless there are records proving he was tested for other toxic substances, it would still be a possibility after 28 years.
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