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Old 02-12-2018, 09:01 PM   #106
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I don't know how much of a cover up by the hands of law enforcement would benefit them in this case. They suspected accident, and ruled it as such. The coroner, after doing the autopsy, changed it to suicide because of the close contact wound to his temple. What is law enforcement supposed to do at that point? Challenge the coroner?
There has been some mention of this being a small town and the Sheriff's department likely being a "good ole boy" type of network. Now, this is where I could totally see this angle working toward the ultimate ruling in this case.

The Sheriff may have thought accident at first, but the coroner (who ultimately has more expertise) said suicide. So, that becomes the answer. The Sheriff and coroner were part of the network, likely had a long history together, and anticipated future interactions. No way is the Sheriff not going to defer to the coroner on this one. And no way is he going to question it after the fact.

Those suspecting conspiracy might have just been picking up on this undertone.
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Those suspecting conspiracy might have just been picking up on this undertone.
Eh, I don't know.

How many other segments did coroner's change rulings from murder/suicide to "undetermined" to still have law enforcement officials be adamant about one or the other? I get the "good ole boy" vibe from this segment. But I don't see what is particularly controversial about accepting a coroner's version due to a close contact wound base off of a previously asserted accidental death theory. This is the total opposite of a murder/suicide typical UM segment. It wasn't until the cause of death was changed to suicide that the murder undertones began being put forward by Norman's parents. Ultimately I think had the parents pushed to have his death changed back to an accident they would have been more successful in getting his death changed from suicide to at the very least "undetermined".
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Random but it's interesting going back and looking at this earlier pages of this thread. You have a good 5 solid pages of people saying oh yeah it was definitely murder, the cops were corrupt, yada yada. Now we have people actually saying it might have been suicide. Just interesting and makes one wonder why the tides turn. Are we becoming more cynical?
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I definitely am.

What's funny is that I went back and watched the Norman Ladner segment yesterday, and was rolling my eyes at some of the things in the segment (home made radio device just so happened to be left behind by Norman's killers for over 3 weeks, the claim that a stranger basically threatened his parents to stop digging into his death) that I used to believe without a second thought. Now when I am rewatching the segments on Amazon I always ask myself, if there was a current UM, would these segments even get produced and made?
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There has been some mention of this being a small town and the Sheriff's department likely being a "good ole boy" type of network. Now, this is where I could totally see this angle working toward the ultimate ruling in this case.

The Sheriff may have thought accident at first, but the coroner (who ultimately has more expertise) said suicide. So, that becomes the answer. The Sheriff and coroner were part of the network, likely had a long history together, and anticipated future interactions. No way is the Sheriff not going to defer to the coroner on this one. And no way is he going to question it after the fact.

Those suspecting conspiracy might have just been picking up on this undertone.
You nailed it for me right there.



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I certainly am. I was halfway ready to write this off as another case of distraught parents not wanting to believe what the authorities told them.

(and now I'll also wonder what might've been left out of other UM segments.....)
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Now that Stack episodes are [FINALLY!!!!!] allowed on YouTube, I've noticed each episode getting close to 100 comments. Sometimes more.

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I am from Picayune, Mississippi. My mother went to school with Norman. You can ask every body in my town that knows about Norman's death and the only people that will say it was suicide is anyone that was on good terms with Sheriff Lumpkin. Everyone else has no doubt it was a murder, and to this day so many have no doubt that Sheriff Lumpkin, knew more than he let on. They only kind of sheriff that would refuse to do an investigate to bring justice to an innocent person.....is a sheriff that is hiding something. Also this: Norman's wallet was empty when they found his body but... Not long after Norman's death his ID was found in New York. It wasn't suicide, plan and simple.
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Lumpkin was as corrupt as could be. His matter of fact attitude about EVERYTHING was disturbing as hell. If that rat were still alive he'd probably claim that Norman mailed his license to NY and paid someone to drop it somewhere. BTW, does anyone know where in NY it was found? Side of the road, that kind of thing?
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