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Old 04-23-2018, 07:26 AM   #61
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It seriously makes no sense to me at all that someone like her would end up a sex slave in some sort of human trafficking scheme. Like, zero. There are a variety of reasons for this and I donít want to elaborate too much about it because I donít know if itís possible to do it without sounding a little bit mean.
I had the same thought. Let's just say she didn't exactly look like a prime target to be kidnapped and leave it at that. I still believe she fell overboard no matter what but it is something to consider.
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I've come around more on her possibly falling overboard. I've never been on a cruise but I've heard stories of passengers falling overboard (drunk or not drunk) and it sounds terrifying. Especially if you're alone at that very moment and nobody is around to see it because at that point, you're finished.

So I'm 99% there. The 1% that still continues to nag at me is the sliding glass balcony doors being open. They were closed when Amy's father saw her feet at 5:00 a.m. and they were open when the father woke up an hour later and Amy was gone. Regardless of how drunk or tipsy she might have been, she was coherent enough to stand up, turn in the RIGHT direction and open those doors.

I can only think of two scenarios with her falling off that balcony after opening the doors...

*For some reason, she doesn't leave, stays on the balcony, turns around and eventually walks over to the railing and falls over. (But what would be the point of opening the doors?)

*Some have said she was a smoker and maybe she went to get her cigarettes. She could have left, retrieved her cigarettes from her own room that she was sharing with her brother, come back to her parents room, walked out on the balcony and decided to leave the doors open and THEN fall overboard. (Very possible. But why not use the balcony of her own room instead of going back to her parents? It would be a much shorter trip. Did their room have a balcony?)

Am I reading too much into those doors? I agree that falling overboard is the easiest possible scenario and despite very painful for the family, a much less nightmarish situation than her being sold into a sex slavery ring never to be rescued...but they nag at me.
I think when you look at this case the segment highly discounts the overboard possibility. They start the segment discussing crime on cruise ships and showing how fearful she was to even approach the rail. From there the scene is set and we are left with a number of circumstances (that are normal on a cruise)that give the family hope that she is still alive. But for me there are only 2 possibilities. She was either smuggled off the ship in some type of secrecy or she fell overboard from her balcony. I went on my first cruise in 2007 on a royal Caribbean ship that was probably similar to the same one she was on. Clearly 9 years (from 1998) is a long time and things change. But I just donít see how a person can be taken off a ship without multiple crew and other passengers finding out about it. This would also be a very unusual crime. while there may be crime at sea there arenít patterns of tourists being kidnapped off of cruiseliners. And I donít believe that she would walk out alone, but if she did she would not have very many places to hide after the tourists re-board the ship. The only way she could have been kidnapped for me is if she left the ship alone or with someone else and were victimised later. but that does not fit either based off the family's testimony.

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I have seen other documentaries about people falling and jumping overboard on cruise ships. it does happen and to say that it was not possible for amy to fall or jump overboard...i dont agree with that.
What documentaries? Do you remember the names? I'd really like to watch that.
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What documentaries? Do you remember the names? I'd really like to watch that.
I do not remember the shows, but it was one of the cable documentary channels. I will keep looking for it and post it if I find it. if you go to the video websites and type in what you are looking for you will find multiple vids of people falling overboard including the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.

If you go on google and search there are cases from just a few months ago with people falling off of ships to their death.
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I do not remember the shows, but it was one of the cable documentary channels. I will keep looking for it and post it if I find it. if you go to the video websites and type in what you are looking for you will find multiple vids of people falling overboard including the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.

If you go on google and search there are cases from just a few months ago with people falling off of ships to their death.
Shows the world we live in-can you imagine the scene she would have caused if staff had stopped serving her booze? So she takes zero responsibility for her alcohol intake & reckless behaviour that led to her falling over & looks for compensation instead.
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Shows the world we live in-can you imagine the scene she would have caused if staff had stopped serving her booze? So she takes zero responsibility for her alcohol intake & reckless behaviour that led to her falling over & looks for compensation instead.
Absolutely. And it is also troubling that she stated to the media that she could not even remember how she fell.
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the woman that I saw in the documentary who was drunk, fell overboard from her balcony, and later sued carnival for (IIRC overserving her alcohol and taking too long to rescue her). her fall was also caught on camera.
I just watched her fall on YouTube. She bounces off one of the lifeboats before hitting the water. Her name is Sarah Kirby and as of 2014, she was suing Carnival including two doctors on board the ship. But four years later, there is virtually no information online as to how that lawsuit turned out.

This woman sounds like a real piece of work. She claims she fell but eyewitnesses said she jumped. A passenger on board also claims that the woman ruined a Jamaican wedding on the ship in her intoxicated state.
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I just watched her fall on YouTube. She bounces off one of the lifeboats before hitting the water. Her name is Sarah Kirby and as of 2014, she was suing Carnival including two doctors on board the ship. But four years later, there is virtually no information online as to how that lawsuit turned out.

This woman sounds like a real piece of work. She claims she fell but eyewitnesses said she jumped. A passenger on board also claims that the woman ruined a Jamaican wedding on the ship in her intoxicated state.
Interesting to say the least. Iím sure she got paid to keep quiet...maybe a another round or two on the house? Cruise lines love to rid themselves of any negativity.
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Interesting to say the least. Iím sure she got paid to keep quiet...maybe a another round or two on the house? Cruise lines love to rid themselves of any negativity.
They probably settled out of court with a stipulation that both parties are not allowed to discuss the details of the settlement. Thatís likely why there hasnít been any new information on this in 4 years or so. At least thatís my guess.
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They probably settled out of court with a stipulation that both parties are not allowed to discuss the details of the settlement. Thatís likely why there hasnít been any new information on this in 4 years or so. At least thatís my guess.
I agree
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Here is a brand new 30 minute podcast from her university in bradís own words.

https://soundcloud.com/user-74889580...dley-96-part-1

Poor guy, heís like yeah if she had fallen 80 feet down into the open ocean (he says in the canal which isnít true) she would have swum to shore, and Iím like... you sure about that, bud? Itís a bit much to expect she would have survived.

The poor family is trying so hard to make her alive, they gloss right over what likely happened.
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What the FBI agent said in the podcast:

The producer says: Let’s bring in an expert who is revisiting these events (Scientology women and yellow)”

Erin Sheridan, Special Agent with the DC office.

“I basically have been up in this office over 10 years, previous I worked down in the Caribbean in the San Juan division.

The biggest and most difficult thing is the timeline, with any type of case, and with this case as well.

You have statements from family and friends, of course from folks who were witnesses and you basically have to try and piece things together. The timeline is difficult especially because you’re in international waters and folks that don’t have the same time on their wrists because they are from all over the country and someone else is from another part of the country so the timelines are different.”

Ok, here is the rest from Agent Sheridan:

“There are definitely ways I would think of if that is what happened, whether someone goes off willingly you know back then they didn’t track when people exited, they only tracked when you entered back on.

You know when passengers come off these ships you have 2-3-4or 5 thousand people exit and go onto whatever island that may be, so if something nefarious occurred, whether she willingly went off possibly, if that was the situation, or she didn’t, which of course could have been the situation, there are ways, there are different exits, there are egress and things that definitely could have occurred...

But we can basically piece things together to figure out exactly what might have happened. That is why we are doing what we are doing, trying to make that timeline more narrow, you know, trying to make it so that that one piece of evidence or something someone may have that they don’t think is important may be important to us.

You had a young 23 year old woman who graduated, obviously from college and had her whole life ahead of her. She had a new job, apartment, dog a new puppy, planning her life, planning to go out you know into the world and make her way. And she goes on vacation, a cruise with her family, probably one of the last family vacations cruise because now she is getting older and Brad is getting older, a family trip to have fun, a family trip to celebrate and then that’s really the story there, the fact that she had everything.

Whatever exactly happened, we don’t know.

That is why it is extremely important or it is crucial for folks who were on that ship, for folks that might have been on that island that they come forward and they start to provide us with some information that could help the investigation.”
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The poor family is trying so hard to make her alive, they gloss right over what likely happened.
*sigh*

Last night was the first time I saw the 2018 'Disappeared' episode about Amy. Other episodes of the series sometimes throw out many possible theories to family members and ask for their opinions on them. However, the falling overboard theory was never brought up to the Bradleys here and never covered.

Despite the fact that I'm 99% sure she fell overboard, this episode was hard to watch. The Bradley family is still clearly in agony.

An accidental death from falling overboard situation would be horrible for friends and family to deal with. The pain is always with you. But I would think that feeling she was abducted and sold in to sex slavery where her life would be on borrowed time would be a feeling that is ten times worse. That's the kind of pain that would make it nearly impossible to get out of bed every morning. If (GOD forbid) I was in their situation, I know which scenario would make it a little easier to go on with my life and it's not the one they're clinging to. Either scenario does not equal her being alive today.

My heart breaks for the Bradley family.
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Last night was the first time I saw the 2018 'Disappeared' episode about Amy. Other episodes of the series sometimes throw out many possible theories to family members and ask for their opinions on them. However, the falling overboard theory was never brought up to the Bradleys here and never covered.
Wow, really? It wasnít even so much as mentioned as a possibility? Thatís completely irresponsible journalism IMO. That girl 100% fell overboard drunk that night. That family is never going to accept her death as being an accident and move on, it seems. 😟
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Wow, really? It wasnít even so much as mentioned as a possibility? Thatís completely irresponsible journalism IMO. That girl 100% fell overboard drunk that night. That family is never going to accept her death as being an accident and move on, it seems. 😟
Or they tried and they freaked and it wasn't aired? Or maybe only agreed to do the show if they wouldn't give that theory any credence.
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