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Old 08-26-2003, 10:02 PM   #76
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For me, the scariest episode was one "special alert" about the abduction and murder of a 2 year old girl named Rachel Runyan(sp?). Her killer etched a threatning message in a bathroom stall that said something to the effect of "I killed the little Runyan girl. I am still alive! Beware!". It was signed with an upside-down cross and "666".
Never solved to my knowledge.
That's the one I mentioned last night! I can't believe I missed reading this. Yeah, I recalled that it was a 'special alert' case shown at the end of one episode, but didn't mention that. I also recall how investigators thought the child might have been forced into doing pornographic film before she was killed and they were hoping to get some help from the pedophiles. Completely forgot about the cross and the 666 but now I remember it. Sad, the case must be at least 20 years old now. Where did it take place?
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Composte Sketch, love your name!

I know one of the cases that you speak of. The one where the little girl was killed and the killer etched a message in a bathroom stall. The girl's name was Rachel Runyan. As far as I can remember, the killer wrote "Beware! I killed the Runyan girl!" and signed it with a bloody pentagram and three 6's. Scary, nightmare stuff. I think it was aired during the early 80's because I remember seeing it quite a few times back then.

In the "bunk bed" case, the bunk bed was torn down, not the house. That was a creepy story also.

I've got the update to the Matthew Chase story on tape. The sketch, which is a right side of the man's faces seen in the ATM, is very scary-looking.

For me, UM is a very love-hate show. I love the show because it's intriguing and interesting, but I also hate it because of the constant creepy music and composites. I've had times where it was hard to fall asleep because I could see those composites in my head, staring at me with their creepy blank faces. The "sitcoms online" site which the adminstratior runs has some links to UM cases that feature sketches. Beware!

P.S. I am dying to see the rest stop killer case again because I cannot honestly remember what that composite looked like. All I know is that is disturbed the heck out of me.
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Oops, guess you figured the Runyan case out! That happens.

(God, that is a scary case! I don't remember anything about a porno film made with her before her death. She was only like 4 years old, right. Dear lord that is horrifying... )
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Yeah, I believe she was closer to 4 than 2. They showed a picture of her wearing a long summer dress saying that's what she wore when she was abducted, and asked if anyone saw a little girl wearing that dress in a pedophelia film. But the bathroom stall message chilled me the most.

EDIT: I was right, it was in Sunset, Utah, on August 26, 1982. The "Rachel Alert" is the precursor of the "Amber Alert". Wow.

http://www.utahchiefs.org/rachel_alert.htm

And this is the picture I remember, her wearing the dress. She was such a pretty girl. BTW, she was three.


And here's the sketch of the suspect.

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I've got the update to the Matthew Chase story on tape. The sketch, which is a right side of the man's faces seen in the ATM, is very scary-looking.
GAH! I now REALLY want to see this case. I'm such a freak! LOL

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I've had times where it was hard to fall asleep because I could see those composites in my head, staring at me with their creepy blank faces.
I hear ya, you'd see them in the dark with the white background. But it's like the accident by the side of the road that you can't look away from.

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The "sitcoms online" site which the adminstratior runs has some links to UM cases that feature sketches. Beware!
Oh yeah. I've checked it out. In fact, THIS was the sketch that I saw back in 1996 that gave me a nightmare. Unbearably, I had that episode on tape for months because I set the VCR for that show.

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I am dying to see the rest stop killer case again because I cannot honestly remember what that composite looked like. All I know is that is disturbed the heck out of me.
I remember long silver hair, googly eyes, and a face looking off to the side. They made that picture using a program that was a precursor to the program Faces, used now by AMW (and does THAT one produce some scary mugs).

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EDIT: The arsonist "beautifulllll....." episode...

And by far the most disturbing unsolved mystery I've ever known of, which until recently I'd been unaware they'd put on UM, the Zodiac Killer.
Ditto that's one of my fave Case's too!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Composite Sketch
[B]Yeah, I believe she was closer to 4 than 2. They showed a picture of her wearing a long summer dress saying that's what she wore when she was abducted, and asked if anyone saw a little girl wearing that dress in a pedophelia film. But the bathroom stall message chilled me the most.

EDIT: I was right, it was in Sunset, Utah, on August 26, 1982. The "Rachel Alert" is the precursor of the "Amber Alert". Wow.

http://www.utahchiefs.org/rachel_alert.htm

And this is the picture I remember, her wearing the dress. She was such a pretty girl. BTW, she was three.


And here's the sketch of the suspect.

Thanks for providing us with that information. Such a sad case. (And yes, that composite is pretty damn scary!)

I was thinking about the case, and one thing I still don't know about is how for sure they knew that a satanic cult was involved. Unless I can't remember, I don't think there was any real proof that a cult killed her. I thought that the killer etched the message just to probably turn the police away from finding him. I also found it odd that none of the websites mentioned the bathroom message. That could possibly mean that it was a hoax...

Oh well, this is a case I would love to get solved, but I don't know if it ever will.




Off topic, but I would love if Lifetime would tell us which segments were playing so we could see if these cases are being shown, because there are some cases I want to see. Or if Lifetime was nice enough, run a special filled with nothing but these cases!
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I am 20 years old , and I remember watching UM shortly after it started airing , my older sister would turn it on and make me watch it , The WHOLE show completely creeped my out , and I am glad to see there are some other people on here that are terified of composite drawings . What is so weird is that I still have this dream where I am watching TV and this really old and scary ep. of UM is about to come on and its like I can't get away fast enough , but I don't know what the ep. is about , but the fear is so intense .

Any way one scary ep. I remember seeing when I was young, which I don't see anyone wrote about and ( please add if you know which one I am talking about ) Is where a woman who lives in a mainly rural area is going to work , I think she was a nurse , or dental assis. , anyway some how this man in a black ford truck gets her off the road and stabs her to death , and they have a scary composite and all ...... If I had to guess it would be from the 89- 90 season.
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okay, some people have already touched on the music, but there's ONE song in particular that lifetime doesn't play many reruns of episodes conataining it.

it used to be played when the fbi's current ten most wanted list would be shown, and one case in particular is the son of sam two parter. it kinda starts out like the old old old original theme, but then goes into an eighties-synth type 'psycho' noise or something... still scares the poo out of me.

however, the arson case with the dubbed over video is still insanely creepy to me as well, as is the sketch of the i-70 killer. can anyone help me find a pic of that sketch? i can't seem to find one to link here. anyhoo...

on a side note, what's that recurring sketch artist jeannie (last name forgotten) up to? she did the sketch of that 'jason' guy with the cowboy hat, and of someone else... she would have the witnesses work with clay and stuff during the interview. she seemed really interesting.
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it used to be played when the fbi's current ten most wanted list would be shown, and one case in particular is the son of sam two parter. it kinda starts out like the old old old original theme, but then goes into an eighties-synth type 'psycho' noise or something... still scares the poo out of me.
I've got that Son of Sam episode on tape. Can you tell me the point where the "creepy" music comes on? I do remember some very creepy music at the beginning when they showed the reenactments of the murders.

(I still can't believe I haven't erased that case because that is a very disturbing one)
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it was also in the case of the two grandparents that abducted their two grand children, but in the son of sam case, i believe it was during the car shooting scene... it showed the two people in the car, and then them getting shot. it was played for a minute or two afterwards.

in part two, i know for sure that it was played during the 'recap' portion, when they summarized the first part, leading into the talk of the satanic cult.


on a side note, there was another song that creeped me out... it started out with an eerie piano, leading in to some synth choir-like voices or something. one case i know they played it for was this case where this gas station attendant lady was abducted and later found dead. someone arrived to find this metal-head guy working the counter, and they believed he was the killer. they played the song for most of the case. eerie, but not as scary as that son of sam song.
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Thanks for clarifying! Yes, I know what music you are talking about. Not one of the more happier music pieces on UM.

Heh, I think that Gary Remal Malkin should release a CD full of those UM songs. Great music to sleep to!
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on a side note, there was another song that creeped me out... it started out with an eerie piano, leading in to some synth choir-like voices or something. one case i know they played it for was this case where this gas station attendant lady was abducted and later found dead. someone arrived to find this metal-head guy working the counter, and they believed he was the killer. they played the song for most of the case. eerie, but not as scary as that son of sam song.

Cobra its been over a year since I have seen this one , but I to remember that music as well as the son of sam , which had some fairly scary composites ..... crap in my pants scary
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wow... everyone who remembers that song is like "eek. so scary"... i don't think anyone really realizes how screwed up it would make me when i was little. UM was bad enough on its own and give me nightmares for a day or two, but if that song played, i would have nightmares for a week, until the next episode.

i want that song so bad.... and all the others played on UM. they'd be great halloween music!
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Hey, don't worry. There were a lot of things that screwed me up when I watched UM (I was younger back then). Look at the discussion on Rachael Runyan at the top. I was scared to death by the message written in the bathroom stall.

As for UM music, that is a little hard, because Robert Stack or the people interviewed are talking over it. You can find the full UM theme on the Sitcoms Online UM site. Also, I do know that the creepy update themes with no talking have been used when Lifetime does their half-assed updates (you know, the written updates on the screen with the 1996-era blue backdrop). However, about the rest, including the "Son of Sam" theme, I don't know. However, I do know of a process which might work. If you have one of those recording studio programs on your computer, like Cool Edit, there is a way to put the recording out of phase. Basically, you would hear parts that are buried upfront. However, that may not work, on UM, but it's worth a try. Of course, then again getting the actual recording into the computer would be complicated....

Well, who knows. Maybe when Allierain publishes her book, the first 50,000 copies will have a "UM soundtrack", with all the creepy stuff included.
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I don't know the scary theme you guys are talking about, but the Son of Sam case is on one of the tapes johnnyangel is sending me, so I'll find out soon enough. I probably have heard it before.

Another theme was scary in its simplicity. The only time I can recall it being played was for the segment on William Bradford Bishop, the Maryland man who murdered his entire family in 1976. It was one piano key being hit again and again, maybe once every half second, and the third or fourth key would be twice as loud as the others - sounding like "dun dun DUN dun dun dun DUN". It was played when they showed 'Bishop' shopping for the gasoline can, shovel and the sledgehammer that would be the murder weapon.

Other scary cases that came to mind recently:

-The family whose members are struck down swiftly by some strange and fatal disease. I believe they were of Hawaiian or Polynesian origin. First it was the father back in 1960, then one of his daughters in 1981, then three of his sons in the next 7 or so years (leaving only one surviving at the time of the broadcast), and finally his teenager grandson in 1988 or 1989. I was always curious to know if any other family members died since the broadcast.

-Not as much scary as it is sad - the case of an elderly Tennessee black man who disappeared while on the way to pick up his wife from a bus station. It was discovered that he misinterpreted directions given to him and he was last seen dazed and confused in a convenience store. His car was found abandoned in a forest with no sign of him. His poor wife died just a few years later not knowing what happened to him.

Any of these cases ring a bell?
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