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Old 12-08-2005, 05:48 AM   #46
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Default Another case that should be on Unsolved

The grave of 18-year-old ABC News intern William Jarrett Moran IV in Griffith Cemetery, in Lakeland, Florida, has a most unusual marker. Among lines of poetry and quotations from Holy Scriptures, it states that he was "murdered" in 1984. Apparently the murderer was never caught. I have had a lot of trouble finding out anything more about him. If Stack were still alive I'd have send him this information long ago. It is right down his alley.

At the bottom of the monument there is a singular message, which might be a quotation from the killer, or a word of comfort to the dead man from his family.
Walk slowly, Willie,
look over your shoulder.
I am walking behind.

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Old 03-10-2006, 09:45 PM   #47
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I must confess that I didn't follow UM 100 percent, so I may have missed it... but did they ever do a segment on "Little Miss 1565," the young girl killed in the Hartford Circus Fire in 1944?

I know the case was "solved" in 1991, or so, but I have heard that there still are doubts--that perhaps the dental records of the burned girl did not match the girl who was identified as her.

I've seen morgue photos of Little Miss 1565, and really, her face was relatively unburned, so it seems so odd to me that this case could have remained a mystery so long, inspiring rock songs, and who knows what else.

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I have often wondered why on earth he didn't profile that story. Research into two books on the Hartford Circus Fire was going at full steam when the show was on. Maybe he just didn't want to do it because that's an extremely painful subject for most of the people who were involved, really for the whole town, and he might have stayed off of it out of consideration, bless him. It would be like him to do that, from what I've heard; he was a very kind-hearted man in real life.

I don't believe Little Miss 1565 is Eleanor Cook; the guy who pushed that theory made a number of errors beside the dental records. Her mother's immediate reaction on seeing the famous photograph was "oh, that's not Honey." She maintained this stance until just before she died, believing her daughter was one of the burnt-beyond-recognition victims still unidentified (perhaps Little Miss 1530). Investigators are still looking into this, assisted by Eleanor's brother Donny.

I wrote a lot of this, in case you're interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Circus_Fire

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Old 04-03-2006, 11:43 PM   #48
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That fire was such a terrible tragedy. I learned a bit about it while doing genealogy as we had an ancester ( a little girl)
perrish in it. I hope they identify her through dna and give her a name. Now below are the cases i would have liked to have seen.
The murder of Sarah Pryor of Wayland,MA , the diapearence of Asha Degree of N.C. and the murder of Bob Crane.
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Was the famous murder of Martha Moxley ever on UM?

I think I might've seen it with an update once......

Also, the Bible John case out of Scotland should've made the list as well as Jack the Ripper. Two British cases that would've deserved time on UM.

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What about the murder of Kurt Cobain? I just finished the book Love & Death and you could not tell me that he commited suicide anymore. I was skeptical until I read the book. It is unbelievable how manipulative and cunning his scab widow Courtney Love is.
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What about the murder of Kurt Cobain?
Actually, UM did a story about Cobain's alleged suicide.

I wish UM would have profiled the burglary of my car. My old driver's license (which was stolen) picture was kind of cool.

Seriously though, it would have been interesting to see a story about the BTK, Ken Rex McElroy, or the castrater killer.
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:35 AM   #52
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Was the famous murder of Martha Moxley ever on UM?

I think I might've seen it with an update once......

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Yes, UM did a segment about Martha Moxley. It originally aired in February 1996.
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I think another recent case that would be perfect for UM would be the Maura Murray case. The one of the college student who was in New Hampshire for some unexplained reason, got into a car crash, was seen by a bus drive who offered help and she declined (he called the cops anyway) and was missing by the time the cops got there 10 minutes later. Everything she owned was left in the car and she had packed up all her belongings at school before she left.

No one knows why she was on the road in NH at that time. She did get an upsetting phone call the night before from someone and she did purchase liquor from a liquor store right before...which makes cops think she was drunk.
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I wish UM would have profiled the burglary of my car. My old driver's license (which was stolen) picture was kind of cool.
I think I saw it on Ebay the other day...

I may have mentioned it before but Jonathan Luna would be a perfect case for UM to profile.
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What were the cases of Ken Rex McElroy and the castrater killer about? The castrater killer? That sounds to me like Steven Seagal's m.o., but I could be mistaken.
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What were the cases of Ken Rex McElroy and the castrater killer about? The castrater killer? That sounds to me like Steven Seagal's m.o., but I could be mistaken.
Ken McElroy was the guy who was the 'town bully' of Skidmore, MO. He'd taunt and terrorize local residents. A book has been written about the subject called 'In Broad Daylight.'

One hot day in July 1981, about 30 or so people gathered on the Main Street of Skidmore and shots were fired at Ken Rex. They could never charge any one person because the authorities could never figure out which one bullet killed him. There were several. The murder was a vigilante-type deal. All for one.

People still refuse to talk about the killing, I believe, to this day.

Here are a couple of links to the Ken McElroy case:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson6.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou...roy/index.html

The closest thing to a castrator killer I can come up with would be Albert Fish.
I could be wrong though.

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I think I saw it on Ebay the other day...
You didn't bid on it, did you?

So, you're now scouring Ebay for items relating to me, eh? I always knew you were a little obsessed with me, but that is bordering on scary
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I always knew you were a little obsessed with me, but that is bordering on scary
Once again you're confusing your fantasy life with reality.

Nah I didn't bid....I've seen a real picture of the infamous Justin so why would I need it. Besides who do you think was selling it?

Yes enlighten us on the castrator killer.....I don't believe I've ever heard of him.
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I haven't heard of him either... and I am pretty interested as well.

As far as the Cobain "murder" theory that was mentioned a few messages up, I've read both books about the shadiness behind Cobain's death, "Who Killed Kurt Cobain?" and "Love and Death," and I still believe that Kurt Cobain committed suicide. I will concede that Courtney Love was acting VERY suspiciously during the time of Cobain's disappearance (from the hospital he was at) until the discovery of his body, but I don't think that she orchestrated his "murder."

An interesting movie to check out is "Kurt and Courtney" which was done by BBC reporter Nick Broomfield. It's pretty good, and you while you can tell that he's trying to be objective, you can see him leaning towards the theory that Cobain was murdered. It's worth a rent.
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I would like them to a segment on a sparkplug which was found inside a 500,000 year old georde in California.
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