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Old 12-01-2016, 09:48 PM   #46
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I agree wholeheartedly. I think back to when I decided to specialize in criminal law and it was undoubtedly shaped by cases just like these (and specifically the Montana double homicide covered in the Dannion Brinkley psychic segment.) I entered into this field because I wanted to 1) help society and 2) ultimately understand why people do the things they do.

It's rare, but I would say that in about 5-10% of my cases, we see horrible things happen because someone wants to hurt someone else. Plain and simple. No other reason. Some people really are just evil.
Well said. Very well said
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Interesting that Cheryl Holland is eligible for parole in March.
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Interesting that Cheryl Holland is eligible for parole in March.
Her parole hearing is scheduled for Nov. 2021. Source: TN Dept. Of Corrections
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Ah ok, UM Wiki needs to update their website.
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When they found her, she was working at the Chevron in my neighborhood. I watched the broadcast when it aired, but I didn't recognize her.
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I watched this one again last night, and I can't stop thinking about the possible motive in this case. The segment mentions that Cheryl had borrowed money from other family members (prior to the murder of the Harvey's) for various treatments of stomach cancer, but that was total b.s. Eddie Wooten claimed the same thing. So if they were constantly borrowing money from relatives prior to murdering the Harvey's, what caused them to become so desperate to murder them for the money? On the day of the murder, they picked up one of Cheryl's checks from her mother's house. My biggest issue with trying to rectify the motive is that it seems like they had money, and had money accessible from other relatives weeks prior to the murder, so why make the leap to murder? The segment makes no mention of any substantial debts, and it says that Cheryl was employed at the time. I know greed seems to be the prevailing theory, but I don't think the drug angle should be written off completely. It could explain the mysterious bearded man seen with Cheryl prior to and after the murders. They could have owed him a sizable debt. Which would also account for the eyewitness who saw Cheryl arguing with this man after the murders. And it would also explain why Wooten stayed behind after the murders.
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I watched this one again last night, and I can't stop thinking about the possible motive in this case. The segment mentions that Cheryl had borrowed money from other family members (prior to the murder of the Harvey's) for various treatments of stomach cancer, but that was total b.s. Eddie Wooten claimed the same thing. So if they were constantly borrowing money from relatives prior to murdering the Harvey's, what caused them to become so desperate to murder them for the money? On the day of the murder, they picked up one of Cheryl's checks from her mother's house. My biggest issue with trying to rectify the motive is that it seems like they had money, and had money accessible from other relatives weeks prior to the murder, so why make the leap to murder? The segment makes no mention of any substantial debts, and it says that Cheryl was employed at the time. I know greed seems to be the prevailing theory, but I don't think the drug angle should be written off completely. It could explain the mysterious bearded man seen with Cheryl prior to and after the murders. They could have owed him a sizable debt. Which would also account for the eyewitness who saw Cheryl arguing with this man after the murders. And it would also explain why Wooten stayed behind after the murders.
Admittedly, I have not seen this one in quite some time, but I remember wondering if there was a drug problem or drug debt involved.

Did they ever ID the bearded man? I thought this was a detail that was only ever mentioned in the NBC broadcast and was subsequently omitted from later airings.
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Admittedly, I have not seen this one in quite some time, but I remember wondering if there was a drug problem or drug debt involved.

Did they ever ID the bearded man? I thought this was a detail that was only ever mentioned in the NBC broadcast and was subsequently omitted from later airings.
Bearded guy was never ID'ed, but it's not edited out of the Prime version. Although they didn't show his composite sketch.
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I always found it pretty telling that Cheryl had been working at a convenience store for six months prior to her capture, which seems to indicate she blew through that stolen $150,000 pretty quickly. Would not surprise me at all if she had to pay off a sizable debt.
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When they found her, she was working at the Chevron in my neighborhood. I watched the broadcast when it aired, but I didn't recognize her.
Jon, do you know which gas station it was? I was thinking it was the one off of 2244?
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I also found it interesting that they played up the angle that Cheryl was an unwilling pawn in the murders, and was possibly murdered by Eddie Wooten.
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I also found it interesting that they played up the angle that Cheryl was an unwilling pawn in the murders, and was possibly murdered by Eddie Wooten.
I think there was a belief that a young mother could not possibly be that cruel: unfortunately we now know much better. The only logical explanation is that she was a hardcore drug addict and needed to pay off the debt and was 'cut off'. Otherwise, why not just ask politely? There is obviously something we don't know.
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I also found it interesting that they played up the angle that Cheryl was an unwilling pawn in the murders, and was possibly murdered by Eddie Wooten.
Wasn't that just family members clinging to the hope that she couldn't have done such a thing? It's kind of annoying but natural and understandable they would feel that way.

I wonder how Cheryl's two kids are doing today. Her daughter would now be 31 and her son 26. They were left in the truck (the son just 6 weeks old) while mommy and daddy were inside the house doing that whole killing thing.
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Wasn't that just family members clinging to the hope that she couldn't have done such a thing? It's kind of annoying but natural and understandable they would feel that way.
The whole bit with the bearded guy made it seem like she was being controlled or was fearful of this person, like he could've been the mastermind behind it all. Just thought it was interesting that even someone as obviously guilty as her got the benefit of the doubt.
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Jon, do you know which gas station it was? I was thinking it was the one off of 2244?
Yes. Also called Bee Caves Rd. It's the Chevron in Rollingwood.

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It has bugged me a long time that I didn't recognize her! I was only a kid at the time though
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