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Old 06-14-2012, 03:27 PM   #46
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Leaving his friends was a little unusual. I'm not sure what going back to the ship would have accomplished. Perhaps Nathan thought he would take his chances by swimming for help? It's also possible he felt that his friends had a better chance of surviving without him in the raft that was damaged. In any case, there really isn't a basis to investigate those details in my opinion. Even if one wanted to be suspicious there is nothing that could really be said or speculated based on the available information.

Heres something maybe people havent thought about, which struck me as very strange:

Nathan did mention in the segment that his companions had a better chance of survival than he had. He said that he could not go on living not knowing that companions had not survived.

But doesnt that contradict his own actions of abandoning his friends in the first place? Why dont stick with your friends when you know you have a better chance of survival?

Plus, doesnt it seem odd to you that Nathan was the first one to find a problem with the Casie Nicole?

And about the freighter Nathan claimed he saw.

Did anybody consider that perhaps due to lack of food & water, Nathan could be hallucinating? There might have not been a freighter at all.

Even if the freighter did exist, then one thing strucks me as very odd. If Nathan spotted the freighter, then obviously he knew his friends were being rescued.

So why didnt he try to signal the freighter to get himself rescued too?

At the time in the middle of the vast sea, his best rate / possible only chance of survival would be to have been rescued by the freighter too, wouldn't it?

Yet he just sits idly by and watch as the freighter to make several rounds (very possibly looking for him) and disappear into the midst of the ocean?

Wheres the rationale in that? Unless you got a death wish.

I dont know but something in Nathan's story just doesnt check out.
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"So why didnt he try to signal the freighter to get himself rescued too?"

His story isn't the best but it would be hard for someone on a freighter miles away to spot him and he didn't have anything to signal with.
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Leaving his friends was weird, but if he hadn't he'd probably be wherever they are now. This reminds me of the I-70 killer segment, where someone does the "wrong" thing and it turns out to be the one time that was actually the right choice. Usually, you live if you follow the gunman's instructions. That time it was best to argue. Usually, sticking with your friends in the ocean leaves you a better chance of surviving. This time, being alone was the best option. What are the chances?

I believe Nathan. It's a good thing he saw the boat and went on the hunch and was able to make it back.
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I think I read somewhere that the others who were on the Cassie Nicole have been declared legally dead.
If it were up to me, the Blind River Rest Stop killer would meet his fate on Dexter Morgan's table.

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I've never doubted Nathan's story for a second. When you're out there floating in the water on a sinking raft/boat, you're not going to think rationally. Plus he gave a very sound reason for swimming to the hull of the Casie Nicole, " I said I donít know what kind of chance we got, but at least maybe one of us can make it to the boat and get some kind of help. Well thatís what I struck out to do." Makes sense. Splitting up actually increases the odds of being found, IMO. I honestly don't think the other three were kidnapped by drug smugglers and held as prisoners. I think they died after the hatch cover of the boat or their raft sank.
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Has there been any searches to possibly find the missing boat ? Technology is a lot better these days.

Who would risk their own life to kill someone ? What could he possibly get out if killing them ? There's also a chance he could've been arrested and be put away for life. Nobody would risk that.

Sadly, I think this is one of those cases that will always be an unsolved mystery.
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Survivor of Capsized Fishing Boat Says 'Voices' Kept Him Going
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SAVANNAH, GA. SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) _ A commerical fisherman whose boat capsized said Wednesday he frequently heard voices and prayed a lot during the five days he spent floating in a wooden box without food.

Nathan Neesmith, 32, of Darien, told reporters he didn't know why the 34- foot boat Casie Nicole sank early Thursday.

''All I know is water came in, and it came in fast,'' said Neesmith, still appearing fatigued on his third day of hospitalization.

Neesmith said that as he drifted in the Atlantic, he splashed water on his face and tried to avoid drinking the salt water. He felt at times he would not survive.

''I heard people talking to me,'' Neesmith said. ''I drifted along. I heard people yelling out, 'Nathan 3/8' I'd jump up and look around. I thought it was somebody. Here I am looking around, and it was only the good Lord keeping me awake.''

Earlier Wednesday, the Coast Guard said it suspended its search for three missing crew members, including Neesmith's brother and nephew.

Neesmith was rescued Monday about 20 miles east of Hilton Head Island, S.C.

He was in fair condition Wednesday at Memorial Medical Center in Savannah, where he was being treated for hypothermia and dehydration. Dr. Carl Boyd, director of the trauma center, said he expected Neesmith to make a full recovery and to be released this weekend.

The boat was found Monday night by a Coast Guard plane about 45 miles off the coast, said Petty Officer 2nd Class Brett Farrell.

A subsequent search turned up only a life vest and a sleeping bag, about five miles from where Neesmith was rescued, said Petty Officer 2nd Class Anthony Brown of the Coast Guard rescue station on Tybee Island.

Neesmith said he and his companions were about 65 miles offshore when the boat began taking on water. He left the others with food and a raft, and set out to get help.

He said he was confident the others will be found.

''People are praying for us all over the world, and if they can be found we're gonna find them ... we're sure gonna try anyway,'' Neesmith said.

The Coast Guard said the search was suspended pending any new developments.

Missing were Neesmith's brother, Billy Joe Neesmith, 23; his nephew, Keith Wilkes, 18; and Franklin Brantley, 23, all of Darien.
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A little piece of info I found.

"Life vest, sleeping bag found in ocean search",480376,4491159
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I never realized the missing men were so young. I'd like to believe that they were picked up by the missing freighter rather than that they were just lost at sea. It sounds incredible, but I don't think it's THAT hard to believe for a number of reasons. 1) Nathan saw the freighter in the same area his buddies were in. 2) I think three young men would probably be able to push each other to hold on and motivate each other more than a lone person- Nathan probably only was able to survive from dehydration and exhaustion do to be able to rest without treading water. 3) Right after he was rescued, a HUGE search of the sea was done. What are the odds that three men wearing life vests all sunk without a trace of them being found. 4) The found life vest could have been a spare on the boat. 5) "I'm bringing them home" coupled with knowing the telephone numbers.

On the flip side:
The men did not have a place to lie on and simply had to cling- which would be a hard feat. Perhaps they perished of dehydration or were attacked by a shark. After all, Nathan swam for HOURS (he estimated around 7 or 8) away from them. And we've heard nothing from them since. This is very similar to the Gordon Collins case. You would think two bodies would have been found wearing life vests (as the other two were), but it's possible that they can be lost anyhow.
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So they did find that boat, a fact never mentioned in the episode.

If the cause of the sinking was found to be natural (corrosion, material defect, etc), Nathan's possible involvement would be definitively ruled out. If it was a gunshot, or a drill, then Nathan is almost certainly responsible. I'm sure investigators already have found the former to be the case.
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If the phone calls after the 3 men disappeared are legit, why did they never come home as the caller said? Are they in a foreign country with some kind of immigration problem? If a freighter did pick up the men did they get deposited in a foreign country, if so; why? When they were found by the freighter they could have radioed the coast guard letting them know they found the men and had the coast guard come and retrieve them. Why was that not done? Nothing in this case makes sense and we have more questions than answers, I hope one day it can be solved.
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I just don't understand why they left the boat then as Nathan stated had to get back to it to get some kind of help
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Maybe this is a controversial POV, but I think this is one of those instances where UM did their best to make things seem mysterious. For what its worth, this was one of my favorite stories as a kid, and I believed that the men survived.

As an adult though, I think the men probably drowned. The only evidence they survived were the phone calls which could easily be explained as a hoax or even a wrong number. The calls were in Spanish as I recall and no significant information was relayed.
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IMO Nathan is 100% lucky to survive and he did the right thing by going to the wreckage. It kept him alive. As far as the freighter I believe he saw what he saw but there is no proof or remote certainty that his mates could have successfully signaled the freighter. As far as Nathan signaling the freighter I wondered about that too but I don't think he had the ability to. I don't see any motive for Nathan to purposefully lie about anything. It's quite possible that his details are sketchy given the traumatic circumstances. I don't know if it's possible to be 100% accurate in reinacting an event that traumatic. I think the phone calls are interesting and without them the story would lose it's edge. Not to say the details were false. I'd just be interested to know more about the calls and if they could have ever been traced.
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The reenactments of those phone calls still scare the hell out of me.
"Why is she lying?, it makes me wonder. What is she hiding?, it makes me wonder."

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