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Old 10-22-2009, 09:04 AM   #16
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Hey Justin, do you know Dan Montecalvo's address?
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On a more serious note, I always wondered if this was a "thrill" killing. In other words, the killer was someone who just wanted to know what it would feel like to take a human life. That would explain the seemingly intricate planning. The taking of the delivery wallet could have been an afterthought or an intentional red herring to make the police suspect robbery.

I doubt Morris Davis himself was the target. I'm sure the pizza restaurant had other drivers. How could the killer guarantee that Morris would be the driver on that delivery? I think this was an unfortunate case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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I doubt Morris Davis himself was the target. I'm sure the pizza restaurant had other drivers. How could the killer guarantee that Morris would be the driver on that delivery? I think this was an unfortunate case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The killer could have been trailing Morris and surveiling the pizza shop waiting for Morris to leave. The pizza joint probably has

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A pizza man is almost like a taxi driver. Pefect target for a serial killer.

Couple of questions I have

1. Was the person who ordered the pizza cleared?
2. Did Morris's delivery car have the pizza companies logo on it or was it just a plain car with no advertisement?
3. It should also be pointed out tht pizza parlors are good covers for drug running. I wonder if this angle has been looked at. I wonder if someone tried to rob him, expecting drugs, but then shot him when Morris was clean.
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The killer could have been trailing Morris and surveiling the pizza shop waiting for Morris to leave.
Possible. For what it's worth, I don't recall the segment mentioning he had any enemies.

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1. Was the person who ordered the pizza cleared?
I believe the killer used a pay phone to call in the pizza order. The delivery address given was a model house. If a name was given by the caller, I assume it was fraudulent.

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2. Did Morris's delivery car have the pizza companies logo on it or was it just a plain car with no advertisement?
If I remember correctly, the re-enactment showed a truck with logos. Since it was just in the re-enactment and wasn't mentioned elsewhere the "fact" that his truck was marked should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

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3. It should also be pointed out tht pizza parlors are good covers for drug running. I wonder if this angle has been looked at. I wonder if someone tried to rob him, expecting drugs, but then shot him when Morris was clean.
I don't believe this was mentioned in the segment, but anything is possible.
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Hey Justin, do you know Dan Montecalvo's address?
No, I don't, sorry. I have tried looking before but California doesn't have an online inmate locator. Really makes it a pain to find someone.
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You know what really concerns me about this case (aside from the obvious fact that a human being was killed)... The police botched the ballistics testing, and didn't realize it until years later when they did a random re-test.

Think about how many people are in prison (or even died on death row) based on a ballistics finding being the key piece of evidence. DNA evidence is one thing, but I get really scared when "scientific" sounding tests such as autopsy reports or ballistics tests can be used to put some away....

There have been a few cases on UM alone in which autopsy reports were wrong, or ballistic tests were botched. How many others are out there that we don't know about... It's scary to think about!
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Think about how many people are in prison (or even died on death row) based on a ballistics finding being the key piece of evidence. DNA evidence is one thing, but I get really scared when "scientific" sounding tests such as autopsy reports or ballistics tests can be used to put some away....
That is why, I believe in giving someone on death row as much chance as possible to appeal.
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I believe the killer used a pay phone to call in the pizza order. The delivery address given was a model house. If a name was given by the caller, I assume it was fraudulent.
That's a pretty well thought out plan and execution for a random act.

You know it does occur to me that the person who killed Morris, could have known the schedule of when Morris works. Heck he could have called in before and asked if Morris was there and hung up.

Worse comes to worse, if the person that comes isn;t Morris, then all they have to do is just walk away and try again. All you have to lose is gas and the price of a phone call. You don't even have to pay for the pizza.

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1. Does anyone know if the pizza was taken or was the pizza left there?
2. Was Morris the only delivery driver?
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That's a pretty well thought out plan and execution for a random act.

You know it does occur to me that the person who killed Morris, could have known the schedule of when Morris works. Heck he could have called in before and asked if Morris was there and hung up.

Worse comes to worse, if the person that comes isn;t Morris, then all they have to do is just walk away and try again. All you have to lose is gas and the price of a phone call. You don't even have to pay for the pizza.

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1. Does anyone know if the pizza was taken or was the pizza left there?
2. Was Morris the only delivery driver?
1) I don't know, but I doubt the Great Falls Police Department would release it because on this link:
http://www.unsolved-crimes.com/davis.html
it states that they have sensitive info about the pizza ordered, number of times he was shot, and number of suspects, so they probably would consider the pizza being left or taken as sensitive information as well.
2) He was the only driver available at the time the pizza was ready to be delivered. The segment said he was the nest available driver, so this indicates he wasn't the only driver working on that night.

As for Morris being the intended target, I doubt the killer could have known Morris would respond. But maybe the killer knew pizza delivery drivers carried big wallets on them for transactions (back in 1985, $300 would be worth something of about $900 today).
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As for Morris being the intended target, I doubt the killer could have known Morris would respond. But maybe the killer knew pizza delivery drivers carried big wallets on them for transactions (back in 1985, $300 would be worth something of about $900 today).
I could be wrong, but I thought no money was stolen?
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No, his delivery wallet was taken. His personal wallet was not.
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How odd? To steal the delivery wallet, but not steal the personal wallet? If you already murdered someone for money, why not get both wallets?
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How odd? To steal the delivery wallet, but not steal the personal wallet? If you already murdered someone for money, why not get both wallets?
The delivery wallet was the one that had a lot of money in it. His personal wallet might only have a few bucks in it. Maybe the killer checked his personal wallet and saw very little money in it, and took only the delivery wallet because it was a robbery of opportunity instead of a personal robbery.
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For some reason I feel slightly embarassed

So after all this time still nothing makes sense on this one? That's a shame
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The facts as presented allow us to make a few deductions:

1. Morris was a random victim. The narration makes clear that Morris was not the only delivery boy at the parlour, nor was he asked for by the killer. While the killer planned to kill a delivery boy, it was just morris's bad luck that he got the call.

2. The killer was local. This is the only logical explanation for him to know that the house was abandoned (not just for sale), that it was in the parlour's delivery area, and for his apparent ability to not stand out in the area.

If the ballistics match was indeed a false positive, then that renders the entire last half of the segment irrelevant, and the police back where they started. Sadly, given the age of the case, it's likely never to be solved, barring a confession.

Given that the killer would have had to wait in the house for some time, the chance of trace evidence would have been high; likely, however, LE in 1985 would not have collected it, so that's prob. not an option. Presumably, the house was dusted for fingerprints and all were identified. If not, LE might have prints for the killer, but again, prob. not, since the MO of the crime suggests a cold-blooded, career criminal, whose prints would be in the system.

I don't find it especially shocking that neighbors didn't see or hear anything. We don't know the distance between houses. Even if the lights were on in the house (were they? we don't really know), people passing by could have thought it was being shown, or a myriad of other innoncent explanations. If someone saw a vehicle parked at the house, that presumably would have been told to us.
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