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Old 12-03-2014, 07:16 PM   #91
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He'd be an easy guy to set up if so. His attempt on the life of General Walker would have gotten people's attention--in fact, if they knew he did this and that he worked in a building the president would pass right by, why not have him detained until the president passed?
Sorry, that didn't come out right. Obviously the Walker attempt wasn't pinned on Oswald until after the Kennedy assassination, and then only by intensely grilling his wife, who, if she told authorities the truth at the time and didn't just speak out of intimidation, seems to be the only one who knew about it. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/ar...bsPageId=73829

What I should have more properly said is, if Oswald were recruited, whoever did it should have known enough to connect him to the attempt on Walker...which was unsuccessful, so would that make recruiters even want him? If he really did shoot at Walker, and his wife or anyone else knew it, too bad they did not come forward so he could have been jailed for attempted murder at the time of Kennedy's visit. But then, if the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy, they'd have just gotten someone else.

Or, the assassination was not a conspiracy, just an incredible coincidence in which Oswald shot at JFK at the same time someone else did. I tend to believe Oswald hit him but it was not his shot which killed him.

Posted on LBJ's IMDb message board in response to accusations that he killed JFK: Lyndon Johnson absolutely did not shoot John F. Kennedy--he was too busy cowering on the floor of the car following. Now, as to either arranging for someone else to shoot him, or being in league with others to do so, I believe more every day...just wish it could be proven while people who can remember it are still living!

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Old 12-08-2014, 07:35 AM   #92
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Which JFK assassination theory is sillier, that Jackie did it/had it done or this one:

Walt Disney killed JFK http://wikibomb.wordpress.com/2010/0...nedy-assassin/ because Kennedy did not like Savage Sam as well as Old Yeller! So, basically, he should have shot everyone who saw both films! And, Disney did not approach LBJ or anyone in 1967, being as Disney died in 1966!

Oh, dear, I'll be up all night trying to decide!
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http://culturecrossfire.com/etc/unso.../#.VIcCiMmmXjI

Part 3...This time the Zapruder film's validity is covered, the Umbrella Man is revealed, Why JD Tippet wasn't killed by Oswald, Oswald's behavior in custody, and we finish with the identity of the Three Tramps-one of who admitted to executing the President.
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Top Ten Stupidest President Kennedy Assassination Theories:

10. Oliver Stone did it knowing the subject would one day make a great movie. (His alibi was being in school halfway across the country—but he sure gained enough from it!)

9. The “umbrella man” theory: Louie Steven Witt appears in the Zapruder film, seemingly inexplicably raising a black umbrella on a sunny day. He was accused of using this to either signal marksmen, or to fire a poison dart concealed within the umbrella. Appearing before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, Witt, who still had the original umbrella and brought it as an exhibit, creating a light moment in the proceedings, stated that he actually had the umbrella to taunt JFK over the Kennedy family’s World War II Nazi ties.

8. a) The driver, William Greer, was in on it and slowed down to allow the gunman better aim. b) The driver himself turned and fired a gun which neither anyone else in the car, anyone watching on both sides of the road, or most of the millions who eventually saw the films by Abraham Zapruder and Orville Nix ever noticed.

7. James Files fired the final shot from the Grassy Knoll. (Update to the "Just when you think you've heard them all" file: apparently now some poor sucker has confessed! http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/New.../13/id/607211/ )

6. Walt Disney had it done because he was angry that Kennedy liked Old Yeller better than Savage Sam. http://wikibomb.wordpress.com/2010/0...nedy-assassin/

5. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

4. Kennedy's wife Jackie had it done because she was angry about fill in the blank.

3. Every time I look this up, I hear a new one. Someone proposed that Scanners made Kennedy's head explode (as in the 1981 movie). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1018315-scanners/ If Jackie was one, I guess it could have been her.

2. Kennedy was not killed. At least one version has him removed from office while one has him surviving incapacitated on Aristotle Onassis’s private island.

1. Suicide.

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There seem to have been three copies made of the Zapruder film, and the original was not altered. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...puted/3672031/ This was very enlightening. Previously all I knew was that on becoming president Bill Clinton wanted to get to the bottom of this (as well he might--why so many classified documents if the crime was the work of a lone gunman?--) but no idea of what, if anything, they may have uncovered.
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Brad Meltzer, the host of Lost History, has an FBI agent checking out all leads viewers submit, who says a witness made a claim about JFK's brain, to which I replied:

"Regarding JFK's brain, if a witness claims to have seen it placed in his grave at Arlington National Cemetery, either the witness is lying or the cemetery's superintendent John Metzler was when he said nothing other than the vault containing Kennedy's body was placed in there."
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Interesting conspiracy debunking article says JFK's supposed threat to destroy the CIA was unsubstantiated and they got along well. http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/...hy-it-matters/

Personally I don't know whether Oswald acted alone but his involvement in some way can hardly be doubted.
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Surprised aliens did it was never a conspiracy theory. 30 years later it likely would have been.
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LHO acted alone. Were there people happy JFK got murdered? YES without a doubt. But they did not actively participate in the planning and carry out of the murder.
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Sorry, the following is the best I can do on a space aliens connection.

Kennedy was not necessarily killed by aliens directly, but possibly by someone not wishing the truth about their existence revealed. The timing of his being killed 10 days after making a memo demanding release of this information is an odd coincidence to say the least. https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2013...mo-jfk-killed/ Not saying it was a conspiracy, or if so whether Oswald was in on it or being used by those who were, just, again, that it worked out luckily for people who wanted Kennedy dead and might have killed him anyway had Oswald not acted first. Aliens themselves are participating in the coverup along with government officials.
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The massive and continuing screwups and coverups are possibly the most troubling aspect of the whole sad and sorry case which made up the John F. Kennedy assassination, and why I firmly side with the 70%-90% of people who don't fully accept the Warren Commission's crummy excuse for a report or swallow the official story (which you'll notice members of the Kennedy family themselves did not accept--John Jr. had a chance to dismiss conspiracy theorists when asked, and his answer suggested nothing of the kind. In explaining why he chose not to pursue the subject, his exact words were, "whatever they decide or whatever they find is not going to change the one fundamental fact in my life, which is that it won't bring him back." Gee, where does it say, "The Warren Commission in their all-seeing, all-knowing wisdom explained everything. All conspiracy theorists are crackpots who should get a life"? Don't see it)! If this was a simple, straightforward, open-and-shut case of a lone nut with a gun, why all the unbelievable screwups (a few, maybe--but so many? Particularly botching the autopsy and then losing half of what material there was from it? Including the most valuable and necessary part?), the lies, the coverups, the reams and reams of documents still suppressed?

According to some, the official story is merely hard to accept because people look at the insignificance of Oswald on the one hand, the significance of Kennedy on the other, and try to balance it out with all sorts of other factors, but I don't agree. Look at John Lennon, who arguably influenced more people even than JFK. Why are there few to no conspiracy theories surrounding his death? Why few to no conspiracy theories regarding the shooting of President Ronald Reagan only a few months later? Uh, maybe because in those cases it was well-demonstrated to have actually been a lone nut with a gun! Add Presidents Garfield and McKinley to this category.

The lone nut with a gun theory has been tried and woefully failed in the case of President Kennedy and even in the case of his brother, whose assailant was caught on the spot, gun in hand! (But the lone shooter theory in that case was never made to agree with the evidence regardless of the amount of manipulation tried.) I'm not saying, "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"...not going so far as to suggest acquitting Oswald, just saying a whole lot is going on here besides what the official story suggests.
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Well the Kennedy family likely wouldn't want to believe their superhuman relative could be taken out by one insignificant person & of course neither would the general public who had seen him elevated to deity status by the media. Most murders are carried out by simpletons & insignificant people & that is why most of them get caught-because they leave evidence behind/shout their mouth off about it or whatever.
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Of course Oswald denied it, although the evidence against him was pretty damning and has never been disproven...probably because he did it. In the other cases (Robert F. Kennedy, John Lennon, Ronald Reagan), the shooters didn't exactly have the option of trying to deny it as they were standing right there holding the gun and everyone saw them do it--in two of these three cases cameras were on the scene. Also Pope John Paul II, who I left out of my list above. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0K50F720141227

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Well the Kennedy family likely wouldn't want to believe their superhuman relative could be taken out by one insignificant person & of course neither would the general public who had seen him elevated to deity status by the media. Most murders are carried out by simpletons & insignificant people & that is why most of them get caught-because they leave evidence behind/shout their mouth off about it or whatever.

The Kennedy Family was well aware by the time JFK was assassinated that they were mortal. John was predeceased by two of his siblings and another sibling had been institutionalized for life at the time of his death.
-Joseph P Kennedy, Jr, a navy pilot was killed in 1944 when what was essentially a flying bomb that he was supposed to activate and parachute out of exploded prematurely over Suffolk, England.
-Kathleen "Kick" Cavendish nee Kennedy, first lost her husband to a WWII sniper and then died herself a few years later in 1948 in a plane crash in France.
-Rosemary Kennedy underwent a prefrontal lobotomy in 1941 and went from a woman who, while less book smart than the rest of the Kennedy kids, was a functional adult albeit with mood issues to someone with the intelligence and motor skills of a two year old.

In addition to this, JFK and Jackie had a daughter, Arabella, who was born sleeping (still born) and lost two day old Patrick a few months before JFK's assassination. Jackie also lost a pregnancy in 1955.

JFK had also had several brushes with death prior to his assassination. The PT boat he was on in WWII was cut in half and he lost several crew members and the survivors spent 6 days living on coconuts and hiding from the enemy. He was hospitalized for long periods of time both before and after the war for various health issues.


The Kennedys knew they were mortal. JFK only ran for president because Joseph died. It had been Joseph who was being groomed to be president by Joseph Kennedy, Sr, not John. And it was Joseph Kennedy, Sr who was partially paralyzed and left largely unable to speak in 1961, not entirely unlike the daughter he had lobotomized so she didn't embarrass the family.

The were raised to meet impossible standards and some of them achieved greatness while others were treated extremely unfairly. But none of them ever doubted they were mortal.
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Yes, Jack Kennedy had the last rites administered several times.
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