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Old 07-26-2006, 01:04 PM   #1
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Did UM ever do a segment on the JFK Assassanation?
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:24 PM   #2
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:51 PM   #3
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Did UM ever do a segment on the JFK Assassanation?
I doubt it. The JFk assassination is so incredibly complex that I doubt UM could do it justice in a 20-30 minute segment. Hell, most hour long documentaries on the subject just barely scratch the surface.
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:20 PM   #4
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The JFk assassination is so incredibly complex that I doubt UM could do it justice in a 20-30 minute segment. Hell, most hour long documentaries on the subject just barely scratch the surface.
I agree. The case would have been too complex for UM (and maybe too controversial).
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Too long yes but I dont think it is too controversial. UM did a pretty lengthy segment on James Earl Ray and whether or not he acted alone in the Martin Luther King Jr shooting or even if he was actually the person that shot King. Didnt UM do a segment on Robert Kennedy and his assassination? I dont know if they did or not but I have always doubted that Sirhan Sirhan acted alone in that one, and I am not even sure that Sirhan was the one whose bullets actually hit him. Supposedly Sirhan was shooting at Kennedy from the front and he did fire a gun but all his bullets missed. There is a conspiracy theory that an unknown person shot Kennedy from behind while Sirhan shot at the same time but from the front.
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[QUOTE=kadrmas15]Too long yes but I dont think it is too controversial.[QUOTE]

Well, it was only a "maybe". Indeed, UM profiled its share of controversial cases. But I was only considering the idea of whether the JFK case could have been to controversial even for UM. I probably should have said "maybe, maybe not."

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Kane, sorry you dont have to apologize. I didnt mean to sound the way I did, I kind of sounded like I was being a jerk to you and that wasnt my intent. Sometimes it is hard to tell peoples emotions on here so if I came off as a jerk to you I apologize that wasnt my intent.
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Kane, sorry you dont have to apologize. I didnt mean to sound the way I did, I kind of sounded like I was being a jerk to you and that wasnt my intent. Sometimes it is hard to tell peoples emotions on here so if I came off as a jerk to you I apologize that wasnt my intent.
I don't think you came across that way. I didn't see anything in the content of your previous post that suggested to me that you were being "a jerk."

Indeed, determining someone's emotions in writing or typing is often difficult. Besides, it's not what you say, but how you say it.
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Too long yes but I dont think it is too controversial. UM did a pretty lengthy segment on James Earl Ray and whether or not he acted alone in the Martin Luther King Jr shooting or even if he was actually the person that shot King. Didnt UM do a segment on Robert Kennedy and his assassination? I dont know if they did or not but I have always doubted that Sirhan Sirhan acted alone in that one, and I am not even sure that Sirhan was the one whose bullets actually hit him. Supposedly Sirhan was shooting at Kennedy from the front and he did fire a gun but all his bullets missed. There is a conspiracy theory that an unknown person shot Kennedy from behind while Sirhan shot at the same time but from the front.
Yep, Unsolved did do a segment on the assassination of RFK, it is on the Strange Legends set.

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Actually UM did two segments concerning RFK's assassination. The one detailing the actual shooting and the second about Scott Inyart who claims he had taken pictures of the actual shooting but they were confiscated and never returned to him. If memory serves me I believe he even sued and won a substantial judgment.
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As for JFK, it was Lee Harvey Oswald in the book depository with a bolt-action rifle. Don't be duped by Oliver Stone's portrayal of the case.
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As for JFK, it was Lee Harvey Oswald in the book depository with a bolt-action rifle. Don't be duped by Oliver Stone's portrayal of the case.
There may be some things in Stone's movie that may not be true, but I have to disagree with the "official" story (Oswald). My father was a sniper in the Marines, and about two years ago, he decided to go to Dallas to have a look for himself at the scene. From what he tells me, it would be close to impossible for Oswald to hit Kennedy the way he did from the depository, especially with the type of gun he used.
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Taken from Oswald's Wikipedia page:
During his Marine Corps service in December 1956 Oswald scored a rating of sharpshooter (twice achieving 48 and 49 out of 50 shots during rapid fire at a stationary target 200 yards [183 m] away using a standard issue M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle). Although in May 1959 he qualified as a marksman (a lower classification) military experts examining his records characterized his firearms proficiency as "above average" and was, when compared to American civilian males his age, "an excellent shot."[28]

Skeptics have argued that expert marksmen could not duplicate Oswald's alleged feat in their first try during reenactments by the Warren Commission (1964) and CBS (1967). In those tests the marksmen were attempting to hit the target at least two out of three times within 5.6 seconds; however, the use of this time span has been heavily disputed and modern analysis of a digitally enhanced Zapruder film has suggested the first and final shots may have come as much as 8.4 seconds apart. Moreover, one of CBS's 11 volunteer marksmen, who (unlike Oswald) had no prior experience with a Mannlicher-Carcano, was able to hit the test target three times in well under the time allotted, and several of the sharpshooters hit the target twice.

The link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_harvey_oswald

So did your Marine sniper father test the 5.6 seconds or the 8.4 seconds theory?
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During his Marine Corps service in December 1956 Oswald scored a rating of sharpshooter (twice achieving 48 and 49 out of 50 shots during rapid fire at a stationary target 200 yards [183 m] away using a standard issue M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle). Although in May 1959 he qualified as a marksman (a lower classification) military experts examining his records characterized his firearms proficiency as "above average" and was, when compared to American civilian males his age, "an excellent shot."[28]

Skeptics have argued that expert marksmen could not duplicate Oswald's alleged feat in their first try during reenactments by the Warren Commission (1964) and CBS (1967). In those tests the marksmen were attempting to hit the target at least two out of three times within 5.6 seconds; however, the use of this time span has been heavily disputed and modern analysis of a digitally enhanced Zapruder film has suggested the first and final shots may have come as much as 8.4 seconds apart. Moreover, one of CBS's 11 volunteer marksmen, who (unlike Oswald) had no prior experience with a Mannlicher-Carcano, was able to hit the test target three times in well under the time allotted, and several of the sharpshooters hit the target twice.

The link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_harvey_oswald

So did your Marine sniper father test the 5.6 seconds or the 8.4 seconds theory?

Did they hit their targets from three different directions?

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the original one.

Has any one ever wondered why John John looked more like his stepfather and stepbrother than anyone else in the clan?
I doubt it.

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