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Old 09-15-2019, 09:17 AM   #16
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Season 3 was also a mess due to the absence of Nancy Walker, and Anne Meara couldn't fill the void. Season 4 was an improvement over Season 3, and I actually like Season 4 of Rhoda the most.
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The rough edge to the Joe character wasn't David Groh's acting. It's the fact the writers decided to cast him as a guy who demolished buildings for a living.

Facts are facts--season one the show was number 6 in ratings and season 2, number 7. If you have a minor character problem, you tinker around the edges, you don't do a radical thing like ditching the marriage. Why not? It's a hit show! I'm surprised CBS didn't put their collective feet down.

Let's say the producers don't like Joe's rough edges--have him decide to change careers. You even get a few scripts out of that.

It was a gigantic bungle. Season 3 plunged to #32 and only made a minor recovery for the fourth season.

As far as the original question of the thread, it all depends on how his contract was written. In all likelihood he didn't have a long-term contract. If he was contracted season to season, it was within their rights to not renew it.

(Edit: I didn't see the previous post re Nancy Walker and season 3--I'd forgotten about that. Losing her for that season was a double-whammy.)
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