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Old 02-17-2017, 10:51 AM   #151
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The boat wouldn't have immediately sunk. It was taking in water at a fairly decent pace before they even noticed anything was wrong. I'm sure they had time to gather their supplies before going on the raft. Their trip was a 7 day fishing excursion, so they had to have brought food with them.
From his story they tried to save the boat by hand, and then when they saw it was futile they immediately grabbed a raft, and jumped ship. I do not believe they grabbed food, as they were all holding onto the raft. In the segment nothing was said about food.

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This reminds me of the Tom Green Show when he swam across Lake Washington. He wasn't an experienced swimmer at all, and it took him over two hours to swim 1.3 miles. This is the swim that he did. Notice how they ask for strong swimmers? They expect people to swim 1.25 miles in less than 45 minutes. If it took Nathan hours to swim 4 or 5 miles, this does nothing but bolster his credibility. If he was out of shape, this makes his story even more believable. No wonder it took him so long to swim that short of a distance.
No. Nice theory, and I get what you're saying, but this isn't credible. You're missing several factors that would've made this impossible. I'm in shape, and there's no way I could've swam hours non-stop without food and water. This is hours of constantly drinking salt water, and having no food (sense he left it with the others, if you believe that). He would've tired out, and started cramping. If he swam an hour or a little more I'd believe it, but not HOURS.

I bring up his size, because he was out of shape. There's no way he would've had the stamina or lung capacity to have continued on swimming nonstop for hours. It's as unbelievable as those phony phone calls.
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There's no way he would've had the stamina or lung capacity to have continued on swimming nonstop for hours. It's as unbelievable as those phony phone calls.
Have you considered that the amount of time it took him to swim that distance was because he was out of shape and had to stop over and over again?
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Have you considered that the amount of time it took him to swim that distance was because he was out of shape and had to stop over and over again?
I have, and even with him stopping it's not believable. He was in deep water, swimming non-stop with salt water constantly in his face/mouth, and we're talking about someone who probably had nothing to eat for hours. I understand willpower, and the instinct of survival, but not swimming for hours non-stop in deep water.

Swimming that long being out of shape, would cause severe cramps, making it hard to move on. Then take into the fact that even if he had eaten before leaving, then his energy would've been gone. He also most likely would've drowned or passed out from how filled his lungs were with salt water. Even if he stopped for breaks, he was in super deep water so he would've had to have been constantly kicking his legs in place to stay afloat even if he stopped for a break, which would've caused fatigue, and cramps. If he stopped to rest he's still using energy just to stay afloat.
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Swimming that long being out of shape, would cause severe cramps, making it hard to move on. Then take into the fact that even if he had eaten before leaving, then his energy would've been gone. He also mostly likely would've drowned or passed out from how filled his lungs were with salt water. Even if he stopped for breaks, he was in super deep water so he would've had to have been constantly kicking his legs in place to stay afloat even if he stopped for a break, which would've caused fatigue.
Treading water in salt water is significantly easier than in fresh water or a pool. The salt content makes the water heavier meaning objects and people float more easily. He wouldn't have had to kick hard and fast constantly to tread water. He could have maintained a slow enough kicking pace to get sufficient rest. Yeah, he probably would have had some cramping, but he could have pushed through that.
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Treading water in salt water is significantly easier than in fresh water or a pool. The salt content makes the water heavier meaning objects and people float more easily. He wouldn't have had to kick hard and fast constantly to tread water. He could have maintained a slow enough kicking pace to get sufficient rest. Yeah, he probably would have had some cramping, but he could have pushed through that.
Pushed through terrible cramping, and having no energy from not eating for hours? No. I'm in better shape then he was, I workout daily and swim for exercise. I don't think I could have made that trip.

You do make a good point about him staying afloat through salt water though. Maybe you guys are right, and I'm willingly to admit that I'm wrong, but I still don't believe it.

Seeing as how his friends were most likely eaten, I find it weird that he wasn't attacked by a sea creature being in the water for that long.
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Seeing as how his friends were most likely eaten, I find it weird that he wasn't attacked by a sea creature being in the water for that long.
That's obviously because UM never reported on a sea monster in those waters.
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It never ceases to amaze me how badly prepared people are when they go out to sea-often they have no life jackets, no flares, no method of communication etc. In this case they had an inflatable that held two when there was four of them & it had a hole in it. This guy was extremely fortunate & likely was delirious when he saw a vessel that likely wasn't there. The white slave theory as always is farcical-what possible use could anybody have for three US white guys? No ransom was ever demanded. No demand for an exchange of political prisoner etc. The phone calls were no doubt some crank who read about the case & thought it would be fun to occasionally harass the families.
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It never ceases to amaze me how badly prepared people are when they go out to sea-often they have no life jackets, no flares, no method of communication etc. In this case they had an inflatable that held two when there was four of them & it had a hole in it. This guy was extremely fortunate & likely was delirious when he saw a vessel that likely wasn't there. The white slave theory as always is farcical-what possible use could anybody have for three US white guys? No ransom was ever demanded. No demand for an exchange of political prisoner etc. The phone calls were no doubt some crank who read about the case & thought it would be fun to occasionally harass the families.
"What about life rafts? I have two."
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"What about life rafts? I have two."
Pity he slashed one of them to pieces.
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The phone calls were no doubt some crank who read about the case & thought it would be fun to occasionally harass the families.
Agreed. They had to have been someone with some knowledge of the case because the owner of the Casie Nicole also received similar phone calls to the one's that Nathan's family was receiving.
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Agreed. They had to have been someone with some knowledge of the case because the owner of the Casie Nicole also received similar phone calls to the one's that Nathan's family was receiving.
In that case, I have to wonder how much publicity the lost boat got in Latin American countries because that would somewhat determine whether the callers had actual inside knowledge of the lost crew's fate OR had just heard about the story and played a sick&heartless prank!
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In that case, I have to wonder how much publicity the lost boat got in Latin American countries because that would somewhat determine whether the callers had actual inside knowledge of the lost crew's fate OR had just heard about the story and played a sick&heartless prank!
Probably little to none. The show made no mention of the cops putting a trace on any of those receiving the calls. Most likely it was an American Latino doing it from inside the US.
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Is this segment available on Amazon Prime? Wasn't able to find it.
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Is this segment available on Amazon Prime? Wasn't able to find it.
Season 4, Episode 15.
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Just watched it! Thanks!
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