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Old 02-28-2017, 02:51 AM   #31
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UMFaninMD just chiming to say I think you're unfairly criticizing Taylor Swift. Yes she does have a pop sound now, and that's by choice and she'd even said she was going pop so she's in no way shape or form still claiming to be a country music artist. So the musical direction of her career has been very intentional on her part and you're just misinformed. I'm not saying I'm a fan of her newer musical style just telling you she's definitely calling herself a pop singer now and that's the way it is.

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Is it me, or does it seem like the entire music industry jumped the shark in the past several years??
Yes. And when you complain about how artistes used to make music with real instruments and limited studio trickery and complain about how rappers and pop divas keep using computers and autotuners to make sounds, and oh yes, rappers don't even sing, the standard reply you get is . . .



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Yes. And when you complain about how artistes used to make music with real instruments and limited studio trickery and complain about how rappers and pop divas keep using computers and autotuners to make sounds, and oh yes, rappers don't even sing, the standard reply you get is . . .



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And I HATE autotune!!!!

There was a debate a while back between Gene Simmons and one of the rappers of N.W.A about whether "Rock And Roll All Nite" by KISS was more rock and roll than "F*** tha Police" by N.W.A.

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And I HATE autotune!!!!

There was a debate a while back between Gene Simmons and one of the rappers of N.W.A about whether "Rock And Roll All Nite" by KISS was more rock and roll than "F*** tha Police" by N.W.A.

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Interesting how Gene Simmons said that Jimi Hendrix, the greatest black rock star ever, isn't in the Rap Hall of Fame, and then tried to make the argument against N.W.A. an aesthetic one. But as I wrote on my blog, "Those of us who reject rap as music could make an argument against it purely based on aesthetics and win the debate with little effort. But when rap fans set the aesthetic issue aside and bring up race in response, what can we do?"
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UMFaninMD just chiming to say I think you're unfairly criticizing Taylor Swift. Yes she does have a pop sound now, and that's by choice and she'd even said she was going pop so she's in no way shape or form still claiming to be a country music artist. So the musical direction of her career has been very intentional on her part and you're just misinformed. I'm not saying I'm a fan of her newer musical style just telling you she's definitely calling herself a pop singer now and that's the way it is.

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That's your opinion but I still stand behind my original post. It doesn't make her a bad artist (I may be one of the few who likes I Knew You Were Trouble and the Bad Blood remix), but for me, it was a sudden transition.
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I don't think the music industry has entirely jumped the shark. There are great bands like Airbourne and Texas Hippie Coalition!! Rival Sons are great, too.
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Metallica jumped the shark in the mid-90's. Many fans thought they sold out with the so-called
'Black Album', by being less thrashy and more commercial (with a ballad, even), but they even got less heavy on 'Load' from 1996--when they cut their hair and got piercings. That was a definite sellout era.

'Re-Load' from 1998 was even worse.
I think what made Metallica jump the shark was NOT so much of their more commercial 1990's direction, but the fact that their attempts to appear more of the "Lollapaloozer" generation and distance themselves from their 80's roots was more indicative of being sellouts. The music was really good, but many felt it was too much of being a concession to being commercial then.

There was a huge thrash fan base that supported them in the 80's and was responsible for much of their early success, but when the band started being part of the avant garde Frisco artsy scene, these fans felt betrayed.
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I don't think the music industry has entirely jumped the shark. There are great bands like Airbourne and Texas Hippie Coalition!! Rival Sons are great, too.
I've heard of another band, the Struts, who are said to recall the '70s-era Rolling Stones.
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