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Old 01-19-2011, 08:09 PM   #16
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She also couldn't cook either.
Like the episode where she ried to cook for a group of people and when she tried to cook the dough in the kitchen, whole kitchen got filled up with DOUGH!
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...was created in 1980 as part of Johnny's new, extended contract for "THE TONIGHT SHOW"- his company developed and produced several prime-time shows for NBC. Very few of them were successful {including "TEACHERS ONLY", starring Lynn Redgrave and Norman Fell; "CASSIE AND COMPANY", a detective drama featuring Angie Dickinson (that was the result of a rejected sitcom pilot she did for Carson- she fulfilled her contract by filming 12 episodes of "CASSIE", and that was it); "LEWIS & CLARK", starring Gabe Kaplan and Guich Koock; and "MR. PRESIDENT" [for FOX], a "dramedy" starring George C. Scott**. The only Carson-produced shows that lasted more than a season were "TV'S BLOOPERS & PRACTICAL JOKES", co-produced by Dick Clark, and fronted by him and Ed McMahon {"representing" Johnny's half of the venture**..and "AMEN". In fact, that was the most successful of ALL the Carson shows, lasting six seasons.

Probably because Johnny was leaving "THE TONIGHT SHOW" in 1992, he wanted "AMEN" off the air before he left. I think it was also due to the fact that Carson Productions, Inc. was basically "rudderless" after Henry "Bombastic" Buskin, Johnny's attorney and close friend, was fired by him in 1988- he controlled the company. According to Lawrence Leamer's 1989 biography of Johnny, "King of the Night", Bushkin mismanaged Carson Productions, keeping it from producing more successful programming, and installing key executives he personally favored [and it was said he had ongoing disagreements with Ed. Weinberger, "AMEN"''s producer]. After "AMEN" ended, Carson Productions, Inc. never produced another series.

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...was created in 1980 as part of Johnny's new, extended contract for "THE TONIGHT SHOW"- his company developed and produced several prime-time shows for NBC. Very few of them were successful {including "TEACHERS ONLY", starring Lynn Redgrave and Norman Fell; "CASSIE AND COMPANY", a detective drama featuring Angie Dickinson (that was the result of a rejected sitcom pilot she did for Carson- she fulfilled her contract by filming 12 episodes of "CASSIE", and that was it); "LEWIS & CLARK", starring Gabe Kaplan and Guich Koock; and "MR. PRESIDENT" [for FOX], a "dramedy" starring George C. Scott**. The only Carson-produced shows that lasted more than a season were "TV'S BLOOPERS & PRACTICAL JOKES", co-produced by Dick Clark, and fronted by him and Ed McMahon {"representing" Johnny's half of the venture**..and "AMEN". In fact, that was the most successful of ALL the Carson shows, lasting six seasons.

Probably because Johnny was leaving "THE TONIGHT SHOW" in 1992, he wanted "AMEN" off the air before he left. I think it was also due to the fact that Carson Productions, Inc. was basically "rudderless" after Henry "Bombastic" Buskin, Johnny's attorney and close friend, was fired by him in 1988- he controlled the company. According to Lawrence Leamer's 1989 biography of Johnny, "King of the Night", Bushkin mismanaged Carson Productions, keeping it from producing more successful programming, and installing key executives he personally favored [and it was said he had ongoing disagreements with Ed. Weinberger, "AMEN"''s producer]. After "AMEN" ended, Carson Productions, Inc. never produced another series.

Thanks for posting. I noticed that Carson Productions never produced anything else that I watched. Sad to hear that it dissolved. I always thought Amen's ratings were declining and part of that was the terrible season five that 227 had.
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"Because it was Johnny Carson Show and since he was leaving NBC that year he just took everything with him included the show"


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I think that is highly unlikely. I am certain even though Carson was leaving NBC he would have wanted even more episodes of a sitcom he was producing for syndication. I believe the show had ran its course. I remember the last year...the scripts were pretty dry to say the least.
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...was created in 1980 as part of Johnny's new, extended contract for "THE TONIGHT SHOW"- his company developed and produced several prime-time shows for NBC. Very few of them were successful {including "TEACHERS ONLY", starring Lynn Redgrave and Norman Fell; "CASSIE AND COMPANY", a detective drama featuring Angie Dickinson (that was the result of a rejected sitcom pilot she did for Carson- she fulfilled her contract by filming 12 episodes of "CASSIE", and that was it); "LEWIS & CLARK", starring Gabe Kaplan and Guich Koock; and "MR. PRESIDENT" [for FOX], a "dramedy" starring George C. Scott**. The only Carson-produced shows that lasted more than a season were "TV'S BLOOPERS & PRACTICAL JOKES", co-produced by Dick Clark, and fronted by him and Ed McMahon {"representing" Johnny's half of the venture**..and "AMEN". In fact, that was the most successful of ALL the Carson shows, lasting six seasons.

Probably because Johnny was leaving "THE TONIGHT SHOW" in 1992, he wanted "AMEN" off the air before he left. I think it was also due to the fact that Carson Productions, Inc. was basically "rudderless" after Henry "Bombastic" Buskin, Johnny's attorney and close friend, was fired by him in 1988- he controlled the company. According to Lawrence Leamer's 1989 biography of Johnny, "King of the Night", Bushkin mismanaged Carson Productions, keeping it from producing more successful programming, and installing key executives he personally favored [and it was said he had ongoing disagreements with Ed. Weinberger, "AMEN"''s producer]. After "AMEN" ended, Carson Productions, Inc. never produced another series.

What was that show that starred Lynda Carter of Wonder Woman and Loni Anderson of WKRP? I saw one ep. of it on Lifetime reruns once and I forgot it was also a Carson Production.
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There is the old urban legend of the defunct series on BET named Screen Scene that NBC was cancelling one of the black shows in 1990 and it was a toss up between 227 and Amen. Marla Gibbs said a few years ago that she was anticipating a 6th season for 227 and it seemed like Amen was rapping itself up in 1990 as the last season the show felt like a spin-off of itself.
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There is the old urban legend of the defunct series on BET named Screen Scene that NBC was cancelling one of the black shows in 1990 and it was a toss up between 227 and Amen. Marla Gibbs said a few years ago that she was anticipating a 6th season for 227 and it seemed like Amen was rapping itself up in 1990 as the last season the show felt like a spin-off of itself.
227 kind of jumped the shark in its last season w/ the departure of Jackee Harry (Sandra) and them bringing in way too many new characters to keep up w/ (presumably in hopes of replacing Sandra as the resident "breakout character").

What became the the final episode of Amen, ironically, served as well enough of a "series finale" (although I don't think that was the intention at the time), w/ Reuben and Thelma having their baby during the telethon. My point is that it seemed like a rather huge event (they even brought in James Brown for good measure) regardless of the actual plans or intent.
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227 kind of jumped the shark in its last season w/ the departure of Jackee Harry (Sandra) and them bringing in way too many new characters to keep up w/ (presumably in hopes of replacing Sandra as the resident "breakout character").

What became the the final episode of Amen, ironically, served as well enough of a "series finale" (although I don't think that was the intention at the time), w/ Reuben and Thelma having their baby during the telethon. My point is that it seemed like a rather huge event (they even brought in James Brown for good measure) regardless of the actual plans or intent.
It was a good dual purpose episode that served well as a season and series finale. The show had ran its course at that point. Sherman stopped doing physical comedy at that point on the show, I am sure he was getting older as more zany storylines could have been made (would have been nice to see Sherman act with some open flame like his tie catching on fire or something; tackled by a football player or gunge with stuff) but I guess he was getting older and wanted to focus more on other parts of the show.
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227 kind of jumped the shark in its last season w/ the departure of Jackee Harry (Sandra) and them bringing in way too many new characters to keep up w/ (presumably in hopes of replacing Sandra as the resident "breakout character").

What became the the final episode of Amen, ironically, served as well enough of a "series finale" (although I don't think that was the intention at the time), w/ Reuben and Thelma having their baby during the telethon. My point is that it seemed like a rather huge event (they even brought in James Brown for good measure) regardless of the actual plans or intent.
I thought that 227 had an OK season for season five. Changes happen. I did like the new characters. It could have opened the door too a few more seasons had it worked out.

I remember back in 1990 that the rumor was either 227 or Amen would be returning mid season. I was hoping 227 would. Amen was the one to come back and it was ok with me. I did enjoy season five. I also liked the cinematography along with the was the set was dressed. I could think of some other shows that were not the best during their final seasons but Amen was just fine IMHO.
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I think Amen was cancelled at the right time. I'd have to see the last season to see if I'm right but you rather go out on top than stay and loose its luster.
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I thought that 227 had an OK season for season five. Changes happen. I did like the new characters.
You've got to be kidding. Dillon was annoying, and Eva was a useless character and just an insult to that cast. The only okay one was Travis. Dillon's mother Millie played by Charlotte Rae was delightful though; it's a shame she didn't appear as a regular.
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I didnt mind Season 5 of 227. Its tough to replace Sondra.
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You've got to be kidding. Dillon was annoying, and Eva was a useless character and just an insult to that cast. The only okay one was Travis. Dillon's mother Millie played by Charlotte Rae was delightful though; it's a shame she didn't appear as a regular.
227 started losing steam after season 3. Amen was getting stale midway through season 4
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Shows like "Amen" stayed on because they did well enough in the ratings to not get cancelled, and they just kind of stuck around. A show that was ok for something to watch for twenty minutes if you are bored, but nothing groundbreaking or fantastic. Something that floats around 25-30 out of 85 programs, with a built in audience who liked The Jeffersons and Sherman Helmsley.

Just one of those shows with the exception of a few people, probably got a shrug of that if told the show was cancelled.
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You've got to be kidding. Dillon was annoying, and Eva was a useless character and just an insult to that cast. The only okay one was Travis. Dillon's mother Millie played by Charlotte Rae was delightful though; it's a shame she didn't appear as a regular.
No. I'm not kidding. Would you rather me lie? Season five is one of my favorites. No, things weren't perfect. Some episodes were not the greatest but there were still some great episodes. Some people may not like it while some, like myself, do.
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