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Old 08-24-2010, 10:58 AM   #121
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Good points! Yeah, the whole "answering the door at 3am" threw me off too; the poster who said there was a huge neighborhood party going on added more to the mystery. For all we know, the mom wasn't even in the home when the supposed knock on the door happened. Maybe she was still out at the "party."

What I am more perplexed by is the fact that the whole "knock on the door/Uncle Joe" thing was relayed to the LE 5 years after Anthonette vanished. I'm still not convinced that what the sister said is exactly what happened.

I'm leaning towards thinking the mother did not have something to do with the kidnapping, but I also think that the segment (through no fault of its own) probably left out some things that might not put the family in the best of light. I've often read that LE purposely presents a positive image of the family so that the public will be more likely to help and come forward. If we were to hear, for example, that mom was passed out drunk, or that mom frequently had male visitors over all the time, and the girls were used to opening the door for them at all hours of the night, the public might be a little less sympathetic.

I don't know.. This is a true mystery, and I wish we could read the police report to know everything there is to know about this one; something tells me we'd be surprised.
Remember that the whole party is double-hearsay at best, with an anonymous poster saying a friend told him/her about it. The tone of it was more to suggest that the kidnapper could have used the party as cover to escape.

I think the sister's story is the truth as she now remembers it, although I agree 100% that the actual truth of it is incredibly problematic.

Many posters here are accusing the mother. The parents are, of course, always the first suspect. Nothing in the segment indicated that she was a suspect and had not been cleared by LE. While I agree with you that UM does leave things out to make people look better, as I stated before, I can't imagine the mother wasn't investigated and cleared and the various issues brought up here have been resolved. I suppose if LE didn't do its job (which there is no evidence of), she could have been improperly investigated, but I'm certainly not going to assume this.

I agree too that there's likely more to the story which could take everything in a new direction.
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The neighborhood party that the friend posted about, could have been at another house in the same neighborhood and perhaps the perps knew the mom was at this party and knew the girls would be home alone. That may have also been why Anthonette answered the door to begin with. She may have thought it was her mom coming back home. It makes sense if you believe that the mother was not home to begin with, which is what I think.
Since we have so little information on the party and even its existence is a question-mark, I don't think we can infer anything about it.

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It would make no sense for the girls to wake up at 3 am and answer the door if their mother was home. No way. I have a 6 year old and he would not answer the door, let alone hear the knocking at 3 am.
I agree, as do most posters, it seems. This point of the story (if, indeed, it even occurs) needs more context to judge its credibility.

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This is a very sad case. I do believe the 911 call to be Anthonette. The child's voice sounds authentic. I'm not too sure about the diner sighting however. We all know how unreliable witness's can be. It's hard to tell.
Like I said before, if the 911 call isn't real, it's a good hoax. I can't accept the diner sighting, though.

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I think that there is a slim chance that Anthonette may still be alive. After all, look at Jaycee Dugard. You can't rule it out entirely.
I don't think anyone is, but Dugard is generally the exception, not the rule. If Anthonette is still alive, I would think it likely she has little memory of being "Anthonette Cayedito"

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As for the younger sister's account of what happened, why would she make that up is my question? Especially 5 years later. I think she is telling the truth.
I suppose there are three possible answers: (1) She's lying, for unknown (personal) motives; (2) She's been coached to tell the story (which would indicate it was an inside job); or (my belief), (3) she BELIEVES it to be be the truth.

Personally, I believe the last. I don't think Wendy's making it up, per say, but I also don't think it's an accurate account of what happened. Memories just don't work like that; stories don't improve five years after the occurrence, and five years is an awfully long time for any story to become corrupted with false memory, etc. I'm not implying any malice on Wendy's part, but it's just a fact that memories are sharpest right after an event, not years later, especially for a child.

Wendy is active on Facebook. I wonder if anyone's attempted to talk to her about the case recently.
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:26 AM   #123
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Hi, I'm not on Facebook. Would somebody be willing to contact Wendy and see if she would answer some of our questions or make a posting or something?
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Does she go by the last name "Cayedito" as well? Is she married now? I can look her up if I know what the last name is that she currently uses.
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Does she go by the last name "Cayedito" as well? Is she married now? I can look her up if I know what the last name is that she currently uses.
Here is a link to a facebook site for Anthonette:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...329&ref=search

Her sister is listed and linked there.
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the person who knocked on the door did say it was her uncle joe.
its a very close family so she probably seen no harm in answering the door for him.
if her mom was involved she wouldnt have stayed in contact with the gallup police until the day she died,especially after being cleared for this long, and her sisters wouldnt still be in contact with them to this day.
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the person who knocked on the door did say it was her uncle joe.
its a very close family so she probably seen no harm in answering the door for him.
if her mom was involved she wouldnt have stayed in contact with the gallup police until the day she died,especially after being cleared for this long, and her sisters wouldnt still be in contact with them to this day.
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Thanks for posting. Did Penny Cayedito pass away? If so, I'm sorry to hear this.
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Anything is possible, and there may be a good chance she is still alive, but for whatever reason just hasn't contacted anyone. But Anthonette would be in her mid 30's by now if still alive. I really have a hard time believing anyone who's been alive for this long wouldn't of found some way to either escape or contact help. I believe if she wasn't murdered, then she most likely committed suicide.
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:35 PM   #129
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I have spoken with Wendy,the last time being about 6 months ago.
The thing I found odd,was that she stated to me that her sister is more "up to date",on the case,and that they do not really speak. I did not ask her why,it's not my business. But I did find it to be a little odd. Apparently,according to Wendy,there has been no further information about this case,but again she said her sister might know more.
Penny did die,never knowing what happened to Anthonette. How sad.
And no,under no uncertain terms do I think she had ANYTHING to do with it,you can just see it in her eyes during interviews,the pain in her voice. Also,because I took a real interest in this case,I have viewed other news stories and such about Anthonette,and it's just painfully obvious that Penny had nothing to do with it.
Is it possible that there was in fact a rambunctious party that night,that went well into night? Possibly. And perhaps she feels extreme guilt about it,knowing that there was a possibility that that was a factor in her kidnapping? Again,I'd believe that could be the case.
But,that's just me. I do believe that she herself had nothing to do with her daughters disappearance.
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Concerning the actual kidnapping story itself, I've grown to think the UM portrayal is a gross deviation from the circumstances of that night. The story that some posters have mentioned about a party going on into the wee hours of the night makes much more sense than two children under the age of ten randomly waking up at 3 AM to answer the door.

However, I'm not incredibly comfortable with Wendy's story either. Maybe it did happen just as she described and I'm completely wrong. But:

1. Why finally bring this up five years later? I used to think that maybe her claims of upsetting her mother more were legitimate, but now I'm not so sure. Something doesn't seem right about it, especially considering this is a child here. Sometimes they say things for reasons beyond adult comprehension.

2. Why didn't Anthonette's abductors either take or silence Wendy? Did they not notice her there? I have a hard time believing she was left completely out of that ordeal.

3. I don't have children and it's been a very, very long time since I've been five years old, but is it a normal reaction for a five year old child to just stand there and remain silent on the issue for five years? It's likely the event was so traumatic it literally stunned her, but I just don't understand why she wouldn't have told her mother the next morning what happened--especially before her mother became upset and starting "crying and everything"--which was the sole reason she gave for not telling her story initially. Wendy apparently had no memory loss, after all.
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3. I don't have children and it's been a very, very long time since I've been five years old, but is it a normal reaction for a five year old child to just stand there and remain silent on the issue for five years? It's likely the event was so traumatic it literally stunned her, but I just don't understand why she wouldn't have told her mother the next morning what happened--especially before her mother became upset and starting "crying and everything"--which was the sole reason she gave for not telling her story initially. Wendy apparently had no memory loss, after all.
Apparently it's not a unique reaction. Practically the same thing transpired with Elizabeth Smart's sister. Repeatedly questioned about the night her sister disappeared, all she said was that she recognized the voice of the abductor. Then, nearly two years later, she said, "I think it was Emmanuel", singlehandedly providing the missing piece of the puzzle! Perhaps there is a correlation between being young and scared and memory suppression?!
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Apparently it's not a unique reaction. Practically the same thing transpired with Elizabeth Smart's sister. Repeatedly questioned about the night her sister disappeared, all she said was that she recognized the voice of the abductor. Then, nearly two years later, she said, "I think it was Emmanuel", singlehandedly providing the missing piece of the puzzle! Perhaps there is a correlation between being young and scared and memory suppression?!
That's a very good hypothesis. I think it's self-defeating to apply an adult's logic and mind to a child's, so I can definitely accept that possibility. It would explain most of the questions I have about Wendy's story.
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Concerning the actual kidnapping story itself, I've grown to think the UM portrayal is a gross deviation from the circumstances of that night. The story that some posters have mentioned about a party going on into the wee hours of the night makes much more sense than two children under the age of ten randomly waking up at 3 AM to answer the door.

However, I'm not incredibly comfortable with Wendy's story either. Maybe it did happen just as she described and I'm completely wrong. But:

1. Why finally bring this up five years later? I used to think that maybe her claims of upsetting her mother more were legitimate, but now I'm not so sure. Something doesn't seem right about it, especially considering this is a child here. Sometimes they say things for reasons beyond adult comprehension.

2. Why didn't Anthonette's abductors either take or silence Wendy? Did they not notice her there? I have a hard time believing she was left completely out of that ordeal.

3. I don't have children and it's been a very, very long time since I've been five years old, but is it a normal reaction for a five year old child to just stand there and remain silent on the issue for five years? It's likely the event was so traumatic it literally stunned her, but I just don't understand why she wouldn't have told her mother the next morning what happened--especially before her mother became upset and starting "crying and everything"--which was the sole reason she gave for not telling her story initially. Wendy apparently had no memory loss, after all.
I agree with every question you posed in your post. I also found it odd that two young girls under the age of ten would be answering a knock at 3 in the morning. I also thought it was weird that Wendy witnessed her sister being kidnapped, yet did not make any attempt to wake her parents, nor tell them about it the next morning. That makes me think she was coached somehow. Pure speculation here, but is it possible that someone from inside the house set up a "sale" for Anthonette? If this were an inside job anything could have really happened to her and this story of her abduction could have simply been made up from the fly.
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Maybe all it took to silence Wendy was a verbal threat from the kidnapper? You know, such as how kids can be told in situations of abuse, "If you tell your parents I will come back and kill your family!", and that is (understandably, I think) enough to keep them quiet for a long time. But that then begs the question of why she did speak up 5 years later--did she think there was no longer a threat, and why not?
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Personally, I feel Anthonette is still alive somewhere, though she probably has no recollection of "who" she was before her abduction. I've read that statistically in abductions, younger female victims (children) have the highest survival rate, whereas young women (think teens to 30s) have the lowest survival rate.
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