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Old 09-23-2019, 10:56 AM   #211
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I am somewhat perplexed by the behavior of the perpetrator: firstly, the fact that he left Fraser's body in a gravel turn-off by a desolate highway instead of somewhere the abundance of wilderness surrounding said highway--unless, for whatever reason, he wanted the body to be eventually found by someone. Secondly, that he burned the car and left it in a public place in a pretty well-populated location. I don't understand the rationale behind these acts, but admittedly I'm approaching it with the presumption that the hitchhiker intended to take every measure to ensure his crimes were adequately concealed. Perhaps I'm incorrect there, but what would be his reasons for not doing so?
I too can't come up with a rationale for his movements. You can see the relevant locations here. Philip picked him up at the 40 Mile Flats, and during the drive south at some point the hitchhiker murdered him and dumped his body 70 miles north of Kitwana (where he stayed with the Olson's). Then he drove east for 12 hours and torched the car. I'd love to know why he was so far up north from Prince George (if that indeed was his intended destination), and if Prince George wasn't his intended destination, how did he get out of the area unnoticed? And did this dude pass himself off as Philip after this? Seems unlikely due to the publicity generated from UM...but I can't imagine that this guy just fell off the face of the earth.
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Philip picked him up at the 40 Mile Flats, and during the drive south at some point the hitchhiker murdered him and dumped his body 70 miles north of Kitwana (where he stayed with the Olson's). Then he drove east for 12 hours and torched the car. I'd love to know why he was so far up north from Prince George (if that indeed was his intended destination), and if Prince George wasn't his intended destination, how did he get out of the area unnoticed? And did this dude pass himself off as Philip after this? Seems unlikely due to the publicity generated from UM...but I can't imagine that this guy just fell off the face of the earth.

The hitchhiker had to have been from or at least familiar with the area. You can bet he knew some people the helped him after the fact too (Occam's Razor).
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I am somewhat perplexed by the behavior of the perpetrator: firstly, the fact that he left Fraser's body in a gravel turn-off by a desolate highway instead of somewhere in the abundance of wilderness surrounding said highway--unless, for whatever reason, he wanted the body to be eventually found by someone. Secondly, that he burned the car and left it in a public place in a pretty well-populated location. I don't understand the rationale behind these acts, but admittedly I'm approaching it with the presumption that the hitchhiker intended to take every measure to ensure his crimes were adequately concealed. Perhaps I'm incorrect there, but what would be his reasons for not doing so?
Did he feel guilt and wanted Phillip's body and vehicle to be found, or was he cooly flaunting his crime?

In all seriousness, given the description of his actions he seemed mentally unhinged and sloppy. The man who he stayed with said he seemed impatient and was rushing to get a plane ticket, so he probably wasn't thinking and was just doing everything urgently. I feel like for him to have burned the car that brazenly in the open he had someone helping him with another vehicle, or he was going directly to the airport.
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The hitchhiker had to have been from or at least familiar with the area. You can bet he knew some people the helped him after the fact too (Occam's Razor).
I doubt it. No evidence suggests that the killer had any kind of help.
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Did he feel guilt and wanted Phillip's body and vehicle to be found, or was he cooly flaunting his crime?

In all seriousness, given the description of his actions he seemed mentally unhinged and sloppy. The man who he stayed with said he seemed impatient and was rushing to get a plane ticket, so he probably wasn't thinking and was just doing everything urgently. I feel like for him to have burned the car that brazenly in the open he had someone helping him with another vehicle, or he was going directly to the airport.
I agree that the killer was in a rush to dispose of Phillips body, and continue driving in his car. If he really wanted the body to e found, he would have left it on the highway. Not sure if you have ever been in Northern British Columbia, but it is very remote. You can drive hours, without seeing any kind of business or rest stop. He likely shot Phillip, and dragged him as far as he could off the highway.

I'm very positive he did not grab a plane ticket, and fly to Washington. Prince George RCMP would have checked outgoing flights to Vancouver and Washington State, and passed along that information to the airline industry and Greyhound. There would have been staff who were on the lookout for a man of his description.

This is why I think he may have been native to the Prince George area. Many of the inhabitants travel to and from the logging city of 70.000 on a regular basis. There is a strong possibility that the suspect had a second vehicle in the Prince George area, and disposed to Phillips car, before driving off in a different vehicle.
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1. I am not understanding the dispute about how Philip died. The media reported that it was from a gun show wound and that police had revealed that info.

2. I do not belive the killer had any intention of flying to Seattle and that is a red herring. (I am guess he likes around Prince George and dropped off the contents of the car at his place before torching it.) How would he have flown to Seattle after selling the car? There was no airport anywhere nearby so the guy could not have bought him a plane ticket but would have given him cash ans he would have to hitchike a distance to an airport. I don't think he was going there. I think he wanted people to think that Philip sold his car which "broke down" and flew to Seattle so that the missing persons search would take place in Seattle and have nothing to do with him. He would take the money for the plane ticket and keep going.

3. This wasn't on the Alaska Highway, as an earlier poster said, but the Stewart-Cassair Highway. I have driven both and, while both are isolated, the S-C is much more so.

4. The city is called Prince George not Fort George.

5. I had to laugh at the person early in the thread who talked about safety with travelling and how they would only have stopped at a place with multiple businesses. On this highway, those places don't exist. Businesses are literally hundreds of miles apart and you stop every time there this is anywhere to stop.

6. I keep getting a feeling that the killer was a guy who had worked mining at Jade City, which is further North up the highway, who eithrt got fired or quit and eas making his way home. I don't why. I'm sure that the RCMP would have checked there to see if anyone recognized the guy.

I agree with you. I worked for six weeks in Fort St.John area, (two hours north on the Alaska Highway). Not quite as remote, but years before I used to do Canoeing in Northern Manitoba, and you could go hours without seeing any kind of business.

The theory of him working in a remote area, and leaving makes perfect sense. I've worked in Northern Alberta, and people come and go all the time.
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