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Old 02-06-2020, 02:44 AM   #256
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Maybe they can play up the retro 80s feel in a way that speaks to a modern audience.

Iím curious if future seasons will edit updates (if there are any) into the Netflix episodes or if updates would air at the end of new episodes. I could also see Netflix releasing updates separately.
Nothing about this reboot will be retro 80s.

Watch The Transformers (1986). Then watch Transformers (2007).
That experience should be on par with what you should expect.

I've discussed this on this thread previously (as to why the UM reboot will not be UM 1980s-1990s) but your comment pointed something else out to me: Updates.

Updates really are one of the most important aspects of the original UM. Tune in next week to see if your neighbors helped solve a mystery. The way that Film Rise butchered the original broadcasts in favor of text updates is a perfect example of how even the UM that's available isn't the true UM. Sometimes Stack would even announce that an update was coming in the next broadcast!

We're not getting that here. Netflix is designed around binge consumption of programming, where we are the passive consumer. The format doesn't lend itself to viewer participation or updates. UM even had a few live episodes, as clunky as they were.

Don't go into Transformers (2007) expecting The Transformers (1986). You'll be disappointed.
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The revival is from the creators of Stranger Things. If you donít think itís going to be 80s-like, then I donít know what to tell you, lol 😂
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The revival is from the creators of Stranger Things. If you donít think itís going to be 80s-like, then I donít know what to tell you, lol 😂
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It's not by the creators of Stranger Things.

It's by a producer on Stranger Things, who has made a bunch of other things and many of them are terrible and had nothing to do with the 80s.
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The revival is from the creators of Stranger Things. If you donít think itís going to be 80s-like, then I donít know what to tell you, lol 😂
Stranger Things is "80s-like" in the same way that Velveeta is cheese-like: reminiscent of something familiar, however when juxtaposed against the original they are easily distinguishable.

Stranger Things is pastiche. Pastiche is literally defined as imitation. Velveeta is imitation cheese. This isn't a value statement, but it is factual.

I can eat and enjoy both Cheddar and Velveeta, though I know the difference.

Spike UM was not NBC UM.
Lifetime UM was not NBC UM.
CBS UM was not NBC UM.
Hell, even NBC UM Seasons 8 and 9 are barely similar to the first five seasons of NBC UM.

So far here's the score sheet:
-No mysterious host to guide/manipulate the viewer.
-One mystery per episode, rather than a variety of mysteries.
-Binge watch in a day. Any updates/follow-ups may be disassociated by time/release.
-Active effort to imitate the intangibles of the original show.

Given the fact that Stranger Things is a high-profile intellectual property with quite impressive merchandising licensing, you would expect there to be some publicity about a Stranger Things-produced version of UM. The silence is deafening. Interpret that however you want.

Never underestimate the power of denial. It produced eight superfluous Star Wars films.
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It's not by the creators of Stranger Things.

It's by a producer on Stranger Things, who has made a bunch of other things and many of them are terrible and had nothing to do with the 80s.
I liked Arrival.

More importantly, 21 Laps has produced zero documentaries or documentary series. The reboot will be "pure documentary style" according to Cosgrove. So, you can go ahead and add -No Re-enactments to the scoresheet.
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It seems to me that some people have it in for these producers due to their previous work.

To say that Stranger Things isn’t 80s is one of the most out of touch statements I’ve ever seen on the internet, and that’s saying something.

I’m expecting these producers to lean in to the 80s aesthetic of the original: the music, graphics, sound effects, etc. Thanks to shows like Stranger Things, 80s nostalgia is at an all-time high. That’s why UM is coming back: to cash in on 80s nostalgia.

I would love this show to be a full-blown 80s pastiche, but I realize they will have to have some modern elements (no host, the re-enactments, etc). I’m looking forward to it!
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To say that Stranger Things isnít 80s is one of the most out of touch statements Iíve ever seen on the internet, and thatís saying something.
Or perhaps I actually lived through the 1980s and realize nostalgia when I see it.

Nostalgia is when someone is so obsessed with a previous time or place that they have the tendency to view the past with fractured lenses or rose-tinted glasses. This makes nostalgia inherently flawed, which is one of the reasons why we can identify it as nostalgia instead of believing it's a historical artifact. Essentially, nostalgia is revisionist history (yet the opposite of presentism).

A perfect example of nostalgia is the Cafe 80s from Back to the Future 2. Michael Jackson, Ronald Reagan, and Ayatollah Khomeini are portrayed as Max Headroom AI. The only time that ever happened in the 80s was BTTF2 (1989).

There's quite a few websites that point out the anachronistic problems with Stranger Things. You may call it 80s if you like, but those of us who lived at the time know the difference.

Unsolved Mysteries (NBC) is my favorite television show of all time. I'm just not naive enough to believe that the Netflix reboot will come within a thousand yards of the original. I predict that the only things that will be "Unsolved Mysteries" about the reboot will be the name, original theme music, and bumper graphics.

Just imagine: UM features an unsolved murder from 2015. The reenactment features actors dressed in 80s wardrobe referencing 80s pop culture in passing conversation. The investigators use 80s logic and knowledge base to solve the crime. The show encourages you to call a toll-free number, rather than use than internet. The entire premise is utterly preposterous.
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Or perhaps I actually lived through the 1980s and realize nostalgia when I see it.

Nostalgia is when someone is so obsessed with a previous time or place that they have the tendency to view the past with fractured lenses or rose-tinted glasses. This makes nostalgia inherently flawed, which is one of the reasons why we can identify it as nostalgia instead of believing it's a historical artifact. Essentially, nostalgia is revisionist history (yet the opposite of presentism).

A perfect example of nostalgia is the Cafe 80s from Back to the Future 2. Michael Jackson, Ronald Reagan, and Ayatollah Khomeini are portrayed as Max Headroom AI. The only time that ever happened in the 80s was BTTF2 (1989).

There's quite a few websites that point out the anachronistic problems with Stranger Things. You may call it 80s if you like, but those of us who lived at the time know the difference.

Unsolved Mysteries (NBC) is my favorite television show of all time. I'm just not naive enough to believe that the Netflix reboot will come within a thousand yards of the original. I predict that the only things that will be "Unsolved Mysteries" about the reboot will be the name, original theme music, and bumper graphics.

Just imagine: UM features an unsolved murder from 2015. The reenactment features actors dressed in 80s wardrobe referencing 80s pop culture in passing conversation. The investigators use 80s logic and knowledge base to solve the crime. The show encourages you to call a toll-free number, rather than use than internet. The entire premise is utterly preposterous.
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I liked Arrival.

More importantly, 21 Laps has produced zero documentaries or documentary series. The reboot will be "pure documentary style" according to Cosgrove. So, you can go ahead and add -No Re-enactments to the scoresheet.

The only thing we seem to have confirmed is that there are reenactments, since actors have started adding the show to their IMDBs:

Series Cast
Jimmy Bacon ... Mystery Man1 episode, 2019
Angel Yvonne ... Volunteer1 episode, 2019
Braxton Angle ... Vinson's Partner1 episode
Chris Brown ... Prisoner #3 / Mall Goer #5 / Bus Passenger ...1 episode
Nichole Thomas ... Mary Ellen's Mother1 episode


The only solid lead in the bunch is the "Vinson" reference, I'm sure someone would probably be able to do the digging to figure out what case that might be covering.
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When is this coming out?
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Or perhaps I actually lived through the 1980s and realize nostalgia when I see it.

Nostalgia is when someone is so obsessed with a previous time or place that they have the tendency to view the past with fractured lenses or rose-tinted glasses. This makes nostalgia inherently flawed, which is one of the reasons why we can identify it as nostalgia instead of believing it's a historical artifact. Essentially, nostalgia is revisionist history (yet the opposite of presentism).

A perfect example of nostalgia is the Cafe 80s from Back to the Future 2. Michael Jackson, Ronald Reagan, and Ayatollah Khomeini are portrayed as Max Headroom AI. The only time that ever happened in the 80s was BTTF2 (1989).

There's quite a few websites that point out the anachronistic problems with Stranger Things. You may call it 80s if you like, but those of us who lived at the time know the difference.

Unsolved Mysteries (NBC) is my favorite television show of all time. I'm just not naive enough to believe that the Netflix reboot will come within a thousand yards of the original. I predict that the only things that will be "Unsolved Mysteries" about the reboot will be the name, original theme music, and bumper graphics.

Just imagine: UM features an unsolved murder from 2015. The reenactment features actors dressed in 80s wardrobe referencing 80s pop culture in passing conversation. The investigators use 80s logic and knowledge base to solve the crime. The show encourages you to call a toll-free number, rather than use than internet. The entire premise is utterly preposterous.
I lived through the 80s as well, and totally see the nostalgia of Stranger Things, and I'd def say that Unsolved Mysteries and Roseanne, strangely enough were my favorite shows, and still are tbh. Unsolved Mysteries is a late 80s show, running into the 90s. The early 80s was massively different than the late 80s. That being said, I think there will be an nostalgic feel to the show, most likely in score, but I don't think anybody is going to be wearing windbreakers and fanny packs unless it's a case set in those times.
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Netflix intentionally doesn't release much info about a lot of its shows.... I have been keeping an eye on this forum lately because I assume I will learn it has been released by a fan saying on here that it's up
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This is the closest case I could fine matching the imdb information. It's a Beth-Ellen Vinson. I saw another about a young boy on youtube.

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