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Old 02-19-2021, 09:26 AM   #136
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Looks like they (METV) are going to mix in a few cartoons from the Gene Deitch 60's Popeye show starting Feb 27th with Matinee Idol Popeye.
What "Gene Deitch 70's Popeye show"?
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Warners reissued around 160 pre-1948 cartoons (after around 1948 the reissues did not cut the title card [a few post-1948 title cards were redone, for unknown reasons] and credits). That's a lot to find, and comparatively few have surfaced.

Really hard to believe safety copies of the originals weren't kept. They just weren't thinking of the value of the work.
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These are the "new" Popeyes I remember: 220 shorts produced in the 1960s. According to the article below they were quickly made, over two years.

Gene Deitch is mentioned as a director for the ones made by Rembrandt Films (evidently the animation was farmed out to three companies, and the whole project was overseen by executive producer Al Brodax).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye...or_(TV_series)

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This is also interesting:

The original titles for "Sunday Go to Meetin' Time", "The Merry Old Soul",[2] "September in the Rain", "Tweetie Pie", "Tale of Two Mice", "House Hunting Mice", "Doggone Cats", "I Taw a Putty Tat", "Daffy Dilly", "Mouse Menace" and "Life with Feathers" all are known to exist. However, the original audio is also required for the short to be present restored on a home video release.

Yes, you need the audio. If there are notes on the shorts, the music could be redone.

A lot of these have been recreated online (Youtube), but someone is guessing on the music and pulling it from other titles. As much music as Stalling reused, someone with actual notes could probably pull the "real" music from other titles.
Here is one example of a recreated opening for "Tweetie Pie" -- two things wrong:

1. The opening rings are Copyright 1951--this is a 1947 cartoon--if you're gonna photoshop, fix it! Just checked the production number (1026), and Rabbit Transit was produced right before it, and it has blue and red rings--so that's correct, but correct the production number and copyright year. The cartoon was produced in 1946, so the year should be MCMXLVI.

2. The titles/credits appear to be the found originals, but the music, who knows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-i3_Nigt9g
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Thanks -- yes, it's exciting when stuff is found overseas in its original form. Old films (especially silents) and old BBC TV programming have really benefited in restoring archives by that means.

Here's the Horton image I mentioned from prior to the Blue Ribbon change:
Attachment 261326
Here's an opening recreation from Youtube. The production number 441, who knows? This old, the numbers are sketchy, and this one is missing from the list--I suspect these opening rings are from another cartoon. Also, the credits card doesn't look original, which tells me only the original title card exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMYXPQBApMM

Just noticed the writer credit is also suspect. It appears that Warren Foster wrote for Clampett's unit.
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Really curious to see if they will show "A-Lad-And His Lamp" and Rebel Rabbit? Two classic Bugs Bunny cartoons.
Here's recreated rings for Rebel Rabbit, to mimic the original. They even got the production number right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INZFIRWSLmA
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Here's recreated rings for Rebel Rabbit, to mimic the original. They even got the production number right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INZFIRWSLmA
Neat!
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3/1 Mon

RABBIT SEASONING (1952), BETTY IN BLUNDERLAND, BOOBY HATCHED, HOUSE OF TOMORROW, DOWNHEARTED DUCKLING

Warners:

Rabbit Seasoning - a Bugs toon, part of Chuck Jones's rabbit season/duck season trilogy

Booby Hatched (1944) - a Tashlin toon, originally a Looney Tune-no credits, a reissue cartoon

3/2 Tue

HALF-FARE HARE (1956), DOING IMPOSSIKIBLE STUNTS, THE SNEEZING WEASEL, CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW, CLAWS FOR ALARM (1954)

Warners:

Half-Fare Hare - one of the better McKimson Bugs, with Honeymooners-like characters. This one hasn't been on TV for quite awhile.

The Sneezing Weasel (1938) - early Tex Avery, no credits on this one-another Blue Ribbon reissue

Claws for Alarm - this is a second "scared Sylvester" toon, with Porky, the first one being 1948's Scaredy Cat.

3/3 Wed

TO HARE IS HUMAN (1956), HIPPYDROME TIGER, ROCKET SQUAD, LOST AND FOUNDRY, GUIDED MOUSE-ILLE

Warners:

To Hare is Human - this is a follow-up to the earlier Operation: Rabbit, with Bugs's foe being Wile E. Coyote. I'd forgotten this, another one that hasn't been on TV for quite awhile.

Rocket Squad (1956) - a funny mid-fifties Porky and Daffy, yet another one that hasn't been on TV for quite awhile, probably due to (gasp!) smoking. WB cartoons fans will notice some very small reuse of animation from Duck Dodgers in the 24-1/2th Century.

[Edit: Add] Hippydrome Tiger (1968) - a Cool Cat Looney Tune. From the re-established Warner animation dept. that started in 1967, with the cartoon "Speedy Ghost to Town."

3/4 Thu

A HULL OF A MESS, BUGS BUNNY RIDES AGAIN, BOWERY BUGS (1949), THE GAY ANTIES, CROWING PAINS

Warners:

Bugs Bunny Rides Again (1948) - Freleng put Yosemite Sam in plenty of roles besides the cowboy he supposedly is, but in this one he actually IS a cowboy. Another one is Wild and Woolly Hare 11 years later--I hope we see that one soon!

Bowery Bugs - another so-so mid-century McKimson Bugs

The Gay Anties - a misc. Freleng toon from 1947--a picnic with the typical invaders set in the 1890s.

Crowing Pains (1947) - a Foghorn Leghorn Looney Tune that was Blue-Ribbon reissued, but was restored to original on Golden Collection 6. Sylvester's in this one, maybe the only time.

3/5 Fri

NOW HARE THIS (1958), QUACK SHOT (1954), THE DANCE CONTEST, BEEP, BEEP (1952), DAREDEVIL DROOPY

Warners:

Now Hare This - another foe for Bugs, this time a wolf called Big Bad.

Quack Shot - looney Daffy is still around, to McKimson--this time he's trying to stop Elmer from shooting ducks--mostly him!

Beep, Beep - Road Runner, could you tell?

Bugs Bunny and Friends

3/6 Sat

RABBIT'S KIN (1952), RUSHING ROULETTE (1965), DIME TO RETIRE (1955), BARBARY-COAST BUNNY (1956), TUGBOAT GRANNY (1956), SOCK A DOODLE DO (1952), ICEMAN DUCKETH, THE (1964)

Rabbit's Kin - in this one Bugs has a little bunny friend, and a big single-shot opponent, Pete Puma.

Rushing Roulette - a Rudy Larriva farmed-out Road Runner [wrong--this is a McKimson cartoon, and the difference is noticeable--the animation isn't nearly as bad as a Larriva Road Runner]

Dime to Retire - scam-running Daffy, his pigeon in this one, Porky

Barbary-Coast Bunny - Bugs's foe this time is Nasty Canasta, a bad guy we first saw in Dripalong Daffy

Tugboat Granny - Granny's in the title, but her appearance is brief, in yet another setting for Sylvester to go after Tweety

Sock A... - a bit of a script alteration for Foggy

The Iceman Ducketh - greedy Daffy, with Bugs, set in the ice and cold

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When I Yoo Hoo, shown restored on MeTV today, was evidently restored for TV by HBO Max. Others like this are "The Lady in Red" and "The Rattled Rooster".
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Mon Mar. 8 - Toon In With Me

TWEETIE PIE, DUCK SOUP TO NUTS, FASTEST WITH THE MOSTEST (1960), BATON BUNNY, GRAMPY’S INDOOR OUTING

Warners (4 of 5 today):

Tweetie Pie (1947) - this is the first Warner Toon to win an Oscar, and the first pairing of Sylvester and Tweety. It's also a sort of collector's holy grail for finding original titles. The title card has been found but the original audio track (music over titles) hasn't. Nit picking about the link below, somebody ought to find proper season/year opening rings for this (production no. 1026--the blue and red rings are correct--why not use the Bacall to Arms opening rings?), but the credits look really good, plus the music "fits:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-i3_Nigt9g

Tweety was originated by Bob Clampett, and taken over by Freleng after Clampett left Warners in 1945. Tweetie Pie (titled only once with this alternate spelling) was Freleng's first Tweety cartoon.

Unless some work has been done, we will see the usual Blue Ribbon reissue on MeTV.

Duck Soup to Nuts (1944) - Originally a Looney Tune, with Porky and Daffy. Sample title recreation (good job!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5PISd6ecO8

Fastest with the Mostest - excellent Road Runner toon, but I'm beginning to wonder why they aren't showing Road Runners from the mid and late fifties, when they've already shown this one? Also, they've showed Beep Beep twice.

Baton Bunny (1959) - another Bugs musical entry, and another one that hasn't been on TV for quite awhile

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Tue Mar. 9 - Toon In With Me

HILLBILLY HARE, POSSE CAT, MUSICAL MOUNTAINEERS, HARE TRIGGER, RAW! RAW! ROOSTER (1956)

Warners:

Hillbilly Hare (1950) - a standout McKimson Bugs. The one that has that well-known square dancing sequence.

Hare Trigger (1945) - Yosemite Sam vs. Bugs. Sam is a train robber in this one.

Raw! Raw! Rooster - in this one we find out Foggy went to college (Rooster U?) and had a loudmouthed friend.
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Wed Mar. 10 - Toon In With Me

HOPPY DAZE (1961), BILL OF HARE (1962), THE FISTIC MYSTIC, SO DOES AN AUTOMOBILE, CONRAD THE SAILOR

Warners:

Hoppy Daze - one of the McKimson series of Sylvester and the mini-kangaroo--a slightly different twist with this one

Bill of Hare - a later toon with Bugs and the Tasmanian devil

Conrad the Sailor (1942) - a Chuck Jones toon with a sailor cat called Conrad vs. daffy Daffy.
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Thu Mar. 11 - Toon In With Me

LICKETY-SPLAT (1961), STUPOR SALESMAN, THE (1948), GHOSKS IS THE BUNK, BIRD IN A GUILTY CAGE (1952), DOWNBEAT BEAR

Warners:

Lickety-Splat - early 60s Road Runner

The Stupor Salesman - an Art Davis-directed Looney Tune, with salesman Daffy vs. crook Slug McSlug. Davis obviously likes action and violence (check out Dough Ray Me-Ow, which had a railroad scene edited out on Nickelodeon) and this toon fills the bill!

Bird in a Guilty Cage - Sylvester chases Tweety in a department store. (speaking of action-packed violence, check out "Putty Tat Trouble" on Mar. 13)
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Fri Mar. 12 - Toon In With Me

REBEL RABBIT, MILLION DOLLAR CAT, BETTY BOOP’S KER-CHOO, VENTRILOQUIST CAT (AKA CAT'S MEOW), YANKEE DOODLE DAFFY

Warners:

Rebel Rabbit (1949) - Another mid-century McKimson toon with the rough-edge drawn Bugs, this has an unusual twist--no clear foe for Bugs, other than a bureaucrat who gives an answer Bugs doesn't like. This causes him to go on a vandalism rampage.

Yankee Doodle Daffy (1943) - Porky and Daffy Looney Tune from Freleng
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Sat Mar. 13 - Bugs Bunny and Friends

Lots of Bugs today...

HOLD THE LION, PLEASE, PUTTY TAT TROUBLE (1951), WAR AND PIECES (1964), SCARLET PUMPERNICKEL, THE (1950), SUPER RABBIT, STAGE DOOR CARTOON

Hold the Lion... (1942) - A Chuck Jones Bugs (vs. a lion)

Putty Tat ... - Sylvester and a bedraggled orange cat battle (using anything and everything convenient to beat each other up) over Tweety

War and Pieces - the last theatrical Road Runner/Coyote produced by the Warner Bros. animation department.

The Scarlet Pumpernickel - Daffy stars in this one, as he tries to sell a script to Warners. Virtually every Warner animation character (but not Bugs) is on this one. (Collector note: a Blue Ribbon re-issue, the original green Looney Tunes rings, complete with Daffy card, exist in collectors circles, and I WANT IT!)

Super Rabbit (1943) - a Chuck Jones takeoff on animated Superman, this is not a commonly-shown cartoon for some reason

Stage Door Cartoon (1944) - from Freleng, Bugs vs. Elmer
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