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Old 10-25-2017, 12:00 PM   #226
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How's this for an unpopular opinion?

While I am a huge classic UM and Robert Stack fan and consider it the best show ever made (until I came here I thought I was in the running for the world's largest UM fan), I actually like the Dennis Farina segments and feel they are very much underappreciated. Given what a crappy hand he was dealt with the awful music and graphics and always filming at that fake NASA station I thought he did a fantastic job as host. That's not even getting into how Spike kept moving the show around and irregularly broadcast it, mainly after everyone was sound asleep and DVRs weren't commonplace.

As for particular cases, I always felt that at best Penny Cayedito knew FAR more than she was letting on about Anthonette. Too bad we will never know the truth. Maybe it's because of a local case where a mother reported her 12 year old daughter missing. It was later proven she murdered her own kid because her boyfriend told her she had to choose between him and her child.
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Agreed 100%. The interest in him really seems passive given that he's a mass murderer.

Maybe people are just that impressed with his ability to grow the biggest tomatoes.
To be fair, at the end of the segment RS did advise that for obvious reasons he was to be considered extremely dangerous - and that he should not be directly confronted. This was very rare that RS would reiterate that with emphasis, to make the point perfectly clear.

However, the remaining part of the segment itself was rather underwhelming. It was a litany of his seduction attempts, his relationships, and the bodies he would leave behind. No real insight on the killer, even if his identity was well-known, except that he was a master manipulator. This was a case where it would have been warranted to have a Jack Levin in the segment, to explain the psychology of this atypical killer.
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How's this for an unpopular opinion?

While I am a huge classic UM and Robert Stack fan and consider it the best show ever made (until I came here I thought I was in the running for the world's largest UM fan), I actually like the Dennis Farina segments and feel they are very much underappreciated. Given what a crappy hand he was dealt with the awful music and graphics and always filming at that fake NASA station I thought he did a fantastic job as host. That's not even getting into how Spike kept moving the show around and irregularly broadcast it, mainly after everyone was sound asleep and DVRs weren't commonplace.
I actually agree with that one. I always liked Farina as an actor, and thought he did a good job as host, on his own merits. But, exactly as you said, he was kind of given a soup sandwich of a presentation. That wasn't his fault, though.
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How's this for an unpopular opinion?

While I am a huge classic UM and Robert Stack fan and consider it the best show ever made (until I came here I thought I was in the running for the world's largest UM fan), I actually like the Dennis Farina segments and feel they are very much underappreciated. Given what a crappy hand he was dealt with the awful music and graphics and always filming at that fake NASA station I thought he did a fantastic job as host. That's not even getting into how Spike kept moving the show around and irregularly broadcast it, mainly after everyone was sound asleep and DVRs weren't commonplace.

As for particular cases, I always felt that at best Penny Cayedito knew FAR more than she was letting on about Anthonette. Too bad we will never know the truth. Maybe it's because of a local case where a mother reported her 12 year old daughter missing. It was later proven she murdered her own kid because her boyfriend told her she had to choose between him and her child.

If you're talking about Farina solely then yes I agree. He did the best he could and would have potentially been a fine host if he had been given better material to work with



The actual revamp overall though is still too badly done and pointless to have much redeeming actors though
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:05 PM   #230
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Agreed 100%. The interest in him really seems passive given that he's a mass murderer.

Maybe people are just that impressed with his ability to grow the biggest tomatoes.
He would not be considered a Mass Murderer. A mass murderer is what S Paddock in Las Vegas was. I'm not convinced he was a serial killer. Hitmen aren't usually classified as serials. This guy was an opportunistic killer if anything.
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He would not be considered a Mass Murderer. A mass murderer is what S Paddock in Las Vegas was. I'm not convinced he was a serial killer. Hitmen aren't usually classified as serials. This guy was an opportunistic killer if anything.
Good point.

Mass murder was a poor choice of words, but I just mean't it in a "killed a good number of women" way, not blew up a coliseum way.
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Well, he had so many health issues that he was on verge of actually dying. How bad and wicked of a man to expect that his wife would back him in a time where even rising from the bed might kill him. The monster.

And yeah, it's "his" money. Which, by marriage, became "their" money because it was putting bread and butter on the table and jewelry on her, all thanks to his hard work.

If she wanted her rightful share of the money, all she had to do was to divorce and ask for alimony, which she would have been entitled to anyway because as a SAHM she had no independent means of income. Instead, she decided to scam him under his nose, exploiting his poor health and his vulnerability, and run away with all the money.

And let's not forget, he did state that he did not care all that much about the money. What he cared about was his children, which she stole away from him. The poor woman! Cry me a river. It's any husband's (or man's, for that matter) worst nightmare, on-par with catching red-handed his wife cheating in his bed.

I had a lot of sympathy for Jimmy Aprile, on the contrary. The guy was not perfect, but as far as we know he did not deserve a payback like this. Jimmy Aprile might have been too absorbed by his work and his business, which in itself could drive couples apart and cause a divorce, but that was so that his family - including herself - would not need anything.

The guy trusted his wife blindly because he was sure he could count on her 100%, while she was ripping him off of everything he had only to leave him with a measly 12$ in his account with his children nowhere to be found. He got had by his own wife while he was trying to stay alive, for crying out loud!


You bring up so many excellent points. The most important one being that all she had to do was divorce him. She still would have gotten alimony and had access to her kids. Instead, she took all of the kids and all of the money.

Was it really worth the five years she ended up being in prison and out of her children's lives? (Although I'm kind of surprised she only got five years for theft, fraud, forgery and abduction.)
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To piggyback off Kari Lynn Nixon but in a different direction; I'm in the extreme minority here who doesn't trash her father endlessly for asking her to pick up chips and soda.

I see absolutely nothing wrong in asking your 16 year old kid to walk two whole blocks to run a quick errand for you at 9:00 on a summer night in your tiny town (population 500). He would have never willingly put her in danger if he knew a nutcase was going to be pulling up in front of his neighbors home to grab her off the street at the worst possible moment. It's not like he didn't punish himself every day of his life afterwards.

It's an armchair quarterback situation. Trashing him means you're basically holding it against him for not having psychic powers.
I have a huge problem with someone who pries their daughter away from doing their homework to get him snacks and sends her out at night in New York because he's too lazy to get up off his fat ass and get them himself, then promptly goes to watch tv and falls asleep and doesn't even realize until the next day (!!) that his daughter is missing, when it turns out she's been kidnapped, raped and murdered. Women and girls are unfortunately raped all the time (and that includes in small towns).

This goes beyond just bad and/or negligent parenting, I hold him indirectly responsible!
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I have a huge problem with someone who pries their daughter away from doing their homework to get him snacks and sends her out at night in New York because he's too lazy to get up off his fat ass and get them himself, then promptly goes to watch tv and falls asleep and doesn't even realize until the next day (!!) that his daughter is missing, when it turns out she's been kidnapped, raped and murdered. Women and girls are unfortunately raped all the time (and that includes in small towns).

This goes beyond just bad and/or negligent parenting, I hold him indirectly responsible!


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I have a huge problem with someone who pries their daughter away from doing their homework to get him snacks and sends her out at night in New York because he's too lazy to get up off his fat ass and get them himself, then promptly goes to watch tv and falls asleep and doesn't even realize until the next day (!!) that his daughter is missing, when it turns out she's been kidnapped, raped and murdered. Women and girls are unfortunately raped all the time (and that includes in small towns).

This goes beyond just bad and/or negligent parenting, I hold him indirectly responsible!
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Donald Kemp and Wanda Mays were murdered.
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I'm in the extreme minority who believe Tim McClure killed his mother. Extreme minority.
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You do realize that all of New York is not New York City, right? This case took place about an hour from me, and being out at night, even now, is far from a death sentence. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I was out as a kid (around that time) until after dark, and I never got murdered/raped/abducted. Neither did any of my friends, regardless of sex. Or anyone else we knew. It's really quite common around here, because while we have "cities" around here, people outside of this area will not consider them "cities." And crimes of that type are far from normal here.
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