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Old 12-16-2020, 02:43 AM   #106
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And a jackass to boot.
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I believe the creators themselves said it was an idealized and nostalgic view of 1930s small town America. It did seem to exist in its own reality, untouched by the 1960s.
I would even go a step further and say it found its genesis in a series of short stories by Sally Benson which formed the basis for the 1944 film Meet Me in St. Louis. That was set in the early (and idealized) 20th century.
I can see that some of that nostalgia can be a turn-off. I mean, when you see all the smiling, white faces and the mood is "Things are just peachy. Don't you just wish things were still like this?" When everybody knows things weren't so great for "them folks".
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Amen to that!! But you left out that he's evil as well.

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The Big Bang Theory wasn't as funny when all the guys except for Raj got girlfriends and married.
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The Beverly Hillbillies was an insult to mountain people I live in the mountains ( West Virginia) and I have never met anyone as ignorant and backwoods as the Clampetts and I've known some characters.
oh COME ON!!

it was just a sitcom for gods sake!!
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I think these shows are awful.

Leave it to Beaver (A very corny and overrated sitcom).
You just reminded me--

I like the show...BUT...and here's the unpopular opinion...I HATED WARD CLEAVER! I think he consistently gets voted as "the best sitcom dad ever" but to me, he came across as so condescending, smug and holier-than-thou, not wise. I guess he was the 1950s ideal dad but I found him insufferable. There were a couple of times when I just wanted to deck him.
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I can see that some of that nostalgia can be a turn-off. I mean, when you see all the smiling, white faces and the mood is "Things are just peachy. Don't you just wish things were still like this?" When everybody knows things weren't so great for "them folks".
LOL, they should have had Barney Fife serving no-knock warrants, and Skippy and Daphne trollling the bus station.
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I think you guys do have a point though.
Up until I retired last year I worked in an antique restoration shop with 4 other "white haired old geezers"

We hired a younger guy as an apprentice, and he was sort of a "Mike Stivic" type person, always looking for a cause worth fighting, and never shy about trying to stoke white guilt as part of his repertoire.
Several were leery of his frequent "traps"

One Monday morning he asked me what I did all weekend, and I said "Oh, just the usual...watching Andy Griffith re-runs and listening to oldies radio".....and the others overheard that and recognized exactly what I was trying to do. And a good time was had by all.

Thereafter, that phrase became kind of a catch-all we'd use trying to tell the young guy when it was time to put a lid on it.
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The social media on nick@nite getting lot of complaints, ever since Young Sheldon joined, there were even MORE complaints, more than formerly when The Office joined nick@nite last year Jan 2019 (which lasted until May 2019). They are literally obsessed with Friends. I feel that most of the complaints, are from middle aged women, really out of their minds. But I think we can all agree sitcomsonline users know that Friends are already overrated and getting WAY too many airings on TBS and nick@nite.
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LOL, they should have had Barney Fife serving no-knock warrants, and Skippy and Daphne trollling the bus station.
There's a nice YouTube video where Oprah, a huge fan of the Andy Griffith Show, talks with the only black person to have a speaking role on the show. It's nice because it shows you can be an admirer of a series, while still acknowledging its limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabLodqhrGs
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You just reminded me--

I like the show...BUT...and here's the unpopular opinion...I HATED WARD CLEAVER! I think he consistently gets voted as "the best sitcom dad ever" but to me, he came across as so condescending, smug and holier-than-thou, not wise. I guess he was the 1950s ideal dad but I found him insufferable. There were a couple of times when I just wanted to deck him.
You have some valid points about Ward Cleaver (and June). While I donít hate him, I donít get the fascination with him as a great TV dad. He was overly harsh with the kids for minor accidents happening (like stuff getting broken) and for just being kids in general. He and June were, frankly, cold towards the children a lot of the time (she more than he). They were unapproachable and the kids were afraid to go to him with their problems. No thanks - I lived that reality growing up.

Mike and Carol Brady were much better parents. They had a strong moral compass and werenít afraid to discipline the kids when they needed it, but they had a more progressive parenting style, relative to the Cleavers, and they were warm, affectionate, and approachable.
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it shows you can be an admirer of a series, while still acknowledging its limitations.
Entertainment being exactly that, I always felt that "Living Single" portrayed an idealized narrative, as well.
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Conversely, one show that I always liked was "My Name is Earl", I could never figure out why that show didn't last longer.

Certain aspects of that plot were clearly designed to shock sensitivities, and (to me) that made it all the more enjoyable. BUT, not everybody sees that kind of shock as entertainment. And I try to respect that POV as well.
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Entertainment being exactly that, I always felt that "Living Single" portrayed an idealized narrative, as well.
How so?

Friends portrayed a pretty idealized storyline, too, all things considered: Monica's huge NYC apartment with the giant balcony and window, and everyone has time to get together every week for coffee? And the couch is always free?!

Still, I adored that one, ignoring some of the bad/nonsensical stuff.
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