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Old 02-01-2004, 11:30 PM   #16
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It had nothing to do with the 60's. The 60's were really like the 50's until the latter portion of the decade anyway.

It was because the 50's nostalgia craze was ending in the 80's. That's all. 60's nostalgia craze was coming into vogue.

So Happy Days was "rewriting" history, so to speak. Plus they were just dumb, with the 80's haircuts going on.

It was dishonest, shallow, and dumb.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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happy days for me has never had a "jumped the Shark" all the seasons are beautiful to me!


"jumped the Shark" is a nonsense for me!


the only season that I liked and 10th

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Old 01-31-2009, 11:07 PM   #18
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I have to say that I'm a Happy Days purist, and for me the first and second seasons of Happy Days were the best. Here are my reasons

1. Simply the writing in season 1 and 2 was clearly superior. The characters actually spoke like they were in the 1950's. I love when the guys use the expression "we're going to watch the submarine races". This was a very 50's expression which referred to making out. Also, there are numerous times when the characters make references to esoteric 1950's era celebrities and personalities. It was this kind of attention to detail that really made the show charming and was glaringly absent after season 2.

2. The sets were much better in season one and two. We get to see Richie's bedroom in all it's 1950's glory. We also get to see the rest of the Cunningham second floor including the bathroom, Chuck's room and Mr and Mrs. C's room. In the second season we also get to see the character's in exterior shots. We see the gang actually in Arnold's parking lot, in the Jefferson High School campus.

2a. Also in season 1 and 2 we get to see the Cunningham dining room which disappears once the show goes live..

3. In season 1 and 2, we actually get to see the characters in Inspiration Point. It was no longer shown once HD went live.

4. Season 1 and 2 featured the 1950's car culture. We see Ralph in his Deuce Coupe and Richie with his "Love Bandit". This was gone after season two.

5. Attention to detail with 1950's culture. I love how when the HD gang went dancing at the Sock Hop the kids actually took their socks off before they went dancing. If you didn't know, unlike today where kids wear sneakers, in the 50's, kids wore shoes. Dances were called sock hops because the had to take off their shoes so they wouldn't scratch the wooden floors of the basket ball court.

5. The filming and cinematography were better. Shooting with film and the one camera set-up gave the show such a warm and nostalgic feeling which all but disappeared once HD went live. Also, season 1 and 2 at times ended the show with the camera panning out which gave the show greater production akin to a movie. Even Gary Marshall has said that the episodes of season 1 & 2 were like mini-movies.

6. The best episode of the whole series is in season 2: The Christmas episode ! ! !

Having said all this, I still did enjoy season 3-5, but I really thought HD really turned sour by season 6.

Here's my challenge to all the season 3-11 fans. I gave my reasons why seasons 1 & 2 were the best. Now tell me why you think seasons 3-11 were better.
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I agree with everything you said, but I want to add three more things:

it really went donhill when they added that ANNOYING live audience.

also, when they made it into "the Fonzie show".

when Mrs C. started "standing up" to Mr. C. It was funny the first one or two times but then they started doing it too much.
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It also annoyed me was when they did the cheers or the audinece would cheer when someone came in the room.
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When the third season began, the acting became more broad, because they were playing to a live audience. Shows that are filmed before a live audience tend to be louder for that reason.

Compare to the first two seasons, which were "quiet" by comparison. The acting in those episodes was subtler, more nuanced.

I didn't start watching HD until the third season when I was a kid. When I would see reruns of the early episodes, they seemed "different" to me. I didn't know exactly why, but I know at that time, I didn't like them as much.

Unfortunately, the show was failing in the ratings and they needed to try something and the live audience was it. Maybe the shows weren't as good, but we may not have had HD had they not gone that route.
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in my country, italy, the laughter and applause were removed and then in Italy between the first two and the other there is no difference between the laughter and recorded live.

OK the first and two are the classic happy days but I liked the whole series, from first to last episode, I liked seeing all the characters, Fonzie, Richie, potsie, Ralph, Joanie, Chachi ... as kids grow up to become adults.

OK, I admit, before I be really keen to Happy days, I was accustomed to seeing the first 7 seasons, but now I have to say that every season I liked.

for me all the seasons episodes have beautiful and ugly incidents.

I admit I was more concerned to see the evolution and growth of Richie, Fonzie ... to Joanie and Chachi do more nostalgic side of the'50s.


but maybe for me it makes no difference because I have seen the sit-com in reply, but as you view in the years'70-'80 and then after some years you have begun to see it with less enthusiasm the series.
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in my country, italy, the laughter and applause were removed and then in Italy between the first two and the other there is no difference between the laughter and recorded live.
That makes sense. A laugh track makes no sense on shows that weren't performed before a live audience.

On the M*A*S*H DVDs, there's an option to watch it without the laugh track. For me, it's the only way to watch.

Thanks for your post, Chachi.
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The best episode of the whole series is in season 2: The Christmas episode ! ! !
Guess Who's Coming to Christmas is also my favourite episode, but...

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I liked watching Fonzie jumping the shark.
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Guess Who's Coming to Christmas is also my favourite episode, but...

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I liked watching Fonzie jumping the shark.
There was still a touch of the old Fonzier in the Christmas episode. He was defiant about going to Wakeshaw until he realized they were on him. Still, he did fix their car, fixed their Santa and was showing signs of becoming "Super Fonz."

When they did that episode before an audience in season two, the die was cast.
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happy days for me has never had a "jumped the Shark" all the seasons are beautiful to me!


"jumped the Shark" is a nonsense for me!


the only season that I liked and 10th
I agree with you. Even though I think the Richie episodes were the best, all the seasons were good. I was still looking forward to watching HD in season 11 and was very sad when the show was canceled. It was the end of an era...and I grew up with the show. I was in 2nd grade when HD came on and I was finishing 12th grade when it went off the air.
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I agree with you. Even though I think the Richie episodes were the best, all the seasons were good. I was still looking forward to watching HD in season 11 and was very sad when the show was canceled. It was the end of an era...and I grew up with the show. I was in 2nd grade when HD came on and I was finishing 12th grade when it went off the air.
I understand, even if they are younger and the show I have known only in reply.

I was born and nell'88 happy days I saw only from 2001/02
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Here's my challenge to all the season 3-11 fans. I gave my reasons why seasons 1 & 2 were the best. Now tell me why you think seasons 3-11 were better.
I only speak for myself, but having enjoyed the entire Happy Days run doesn't mean I think seasons 3-11 are better, this goes for many shows that made changes in later years- yes Red Dwarf's first 2 seasons were the best, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying the rest of the series.
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It also annoyed me was when they did the cheers or the audinece would cheer when someone came in the room.
Many sitcoms were guilty of this. Laverne and Shirley when Lenny and Squiggy entered the room. I watched a rerun of Newhart and in one episode Larry, Darryl, and Darryl made three appearances, and each time the audience cheered their entrance.
The most annoying was Married With Children, especially the later seasons, the audience was loud and obnoxious.
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