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Old 08-08-2011, 03:15 PM   #61
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I've gone back and forth on this case many times. For years, I was totally convinced that George Owens was the victim of foul play or kidnapping and that his body was removed from the scene. I knew that an elderly man would not have been able to walk very far on his own without his cane and figured it would have been impossible for his body not to have been found. Of course, I started to do a bit of a 180 a few months ago once they found Mike Riemer's skull less than a mile from the original crime scene 26 years after he was killed and I realized how easy it is for a search team to miss a body in the woods. And we've also seen numerous other UM cases (e.g. Don Kemp, Dan Wilson) where a body was missed during an initial search of the area and found long afterward.

However, the thing that separates the Owens case from the others is the climate in which he disappeared. Diana Robertson's body wasn't found until two months after they disappeared and it was the middle of winter, so it's perfectly logical that Mike Riemer's body would be covered up by the elements and easily missed. George Owens' car was found only six days after he disappeared in the middle of July in Tennessee. You'd think that if his body was in the surrounding area in that summer heat, there at least would have been a noticeable stench that someone would have picked up on. That's pretty much the determining factor that prevents me from believing he simply wandered off and died.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:18 PM   #62
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This is the story about the old black guy who dissapeared...
Eye witnesses said he seemed dissorientated and his car was found in the woods with the keys inside but his body was never found....nor was he.

I believe he probably suffered some sort of stroke or dementia and went to get some wood and just stumbled out into the woods to die or whatever.

Any updates on this case?

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I agree. Im sure he suffered a stroke or heart attack and wandered off into the woods and passed away and was never found. This case really hit home for me since my grandfather had Alzheimers. Its such a horrible disease. Sadly, here in my hometown we see a lot of cases of the elderly wandering off and they end up finding them deceased.
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George Owens' car was found only six days after he disappeared in the middle of July in Tennessee. You'd think that if his body was in the surrounding area in that summer heat, there at least would have been a noticeable stench that someone would have picked up on. That's pretty much the determining factor that prevents me from believing he simply wandered off and died.
That's the thing that's troubling in this case, we don't know for sure where (not to mention how) George Owens died. One thing we all can agree on is that George Owens was not in the right state of mind on the day he disappeared. It's quite possible that George, in a disoriented state of mind, parked his car where it was found and went out looking for more firewood. And who's to say a good samaritan spotted George, and gave him a ride to a nearby town, and George wandered off and died in another location away from his car? I still think the most likely scenario is that he wandered off (somewhere within the vicinity of where his car was found) and his body was overlooked in the search of the area.
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Been awhile since I watched this, but I never really suspected foul play here.

Two years ago, an elderly family friend died from Alzheimer's disease. Prior to his death, he had a history of wandering off, even though he had some difficulty walking. I remember one scary instance where he walked out of a supposedly locked and secured hospital wing and wandered about three miles on the streets before a police officer found him. He was very tenacious.

As others have mentioned, there have been examples on UM and elsewhere where a "thorough search" is conducted yet remains are seemingly missed. The Don Kemp, David Stone and Dan Wilson cases come to mind.

So for those reasons, I think it's probable he simply wandered off and succumbed to the elements.
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Been awhile since I watched this, but I never really suspected foul play here.

Two years ago, an elderly family friend died from Alzheimer's disease. Prior to his death, he had a history of wandering off, even though he had some difficulty walking. I remember one scary instance where he walked out of a supposedly locked and secured hospital wing and wandered about three miles on the streets before a police officer found him. He was very tenacious.

As others have mentioned, there have been examples on UM and elsewhere where a "thorough search" is conducted yet remains are seemingly missed. The Don Kemp, David Stone and Dan Wilson cases come to mind.

So for those reasons, I think it's probable he simply wandered off and succumbed to the elements.

Likely. I just wish they would have found the remains then and we would have some update, on the new UM or whatever.
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I just watched this segment for what I believe was the first time. I don't remember seeing it before. How sad. I think he likely wandered off.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:52 PM   #67
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I really don't think that George was murdered. It's possible he may have been robbed, but that's about it. In fact, given the condition he was in, it would almost be a stretch to call it robbery. If someone did happen upon him even with the intent to rob him, they could have just asked for money, and George probably would have handed over his whole wallet without thinking about it. But, I doubt that anybody else was involved in any way, shape, or form. George had some sort of stroke that day and was going down fast. He most likely just wandered into the woods to die.
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I think the condition George's car was found in would all but rule out foul play. I mean why would someone abduct George, kill him, hide his body, then dump his car and:

-leave the keys in the ignition
-leave the back door open
-leave his jacket inside on one of the seats
-prop his cane up against the car
-put sticks of wood in the backseat
-put several piles of wood around the car?

It makes no sense for anyone to have done these things other than a disoriented George Owens.
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I have always thought it so sad that the family never had closure to this.
I just googled his name and a link took me to The Charley Project page about him.

I believe he was confused for whatever reason that day. He stopped and asked for directions to Nolensville. The store clerk misunderstood and sent him to a town in the opposite direction. This is where he was spotted and stopped again for instructions, saying, "I can't find my wife". Totally overcome by confusion and disoriented by this time, he ended up on the dirt road his car was found on. Lost in the woods, in his confusion he thought he needed to build a fire. He becomes too warm and removes his jacket. He leans his cane against the car, and leaves the wood he has gathered. For whatever reason, he wanders in the woods and dies. His body was overlooked by searchers. It was on the news yesterday about a man in CA that was in a wreck and lay in an overgrown area near the accident for 6 days overlooked by searchers. I believe this is what happened to Mr. Owens.
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I have always thought it so sad that the family never had closure to this.
I just googled his name and a link took me to The Charley Project page about him.

I believe he was confused for whatever reason that day. He stopped and asked for directions to Nolensville. The store clerk misunderstood and sent him to a town in the opposite direction. This is where he was spotted and stopped again for instructions, saying, "I can't find my wife". Totally overcome by confusion and disoriented by this time, he ended up on the dirt road his car was found on. Lost in the woods, in his confusion he thought he needed to build a fire. He becomes too warm and removes his jacket. He leans his cane against the car, and leaves the wood he has gathered. For whatever reason, he wanders in the woods and dies. His body was overlooked by searchers. It was on the news yesterday about a man in CA that was in a wreck and lay in an overgrown area near the accident for 6 days overlooked by searchers. I believe this is what happened to Mr. Owens.
Yeah but the guy has been missing for about 25 years. Someone would stumble on his body you would think right? If he just wandered off he wouldn't have gotten too far. It isn't as if they didn't have a central point to check from - his car. How far can an 87 year old man go? Even after all these years someone would have seen something peculiar. The car was down a dirt road, lending to the idea that bikers or joggers or even cars go through there. I don't know, I think he ran into foul play
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Not neccessarily so. The Charley Project describes his car as being found "on a remote hilltop". If this were an old logging road or some similar such road, not a well travelled dirt road, yeah, I could see no one going up there, or rarely going.

And with time, animal activity , and rain, weather etc, it's very likely his bones have been scattered and will never be found. There have been too many instances where the body of a missing person has been found after a long time in areas that have been supposedly searched.
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I've always felt sorry for the store clerk who called the local clinic to try to help find George's wife...you can tell how genuinely upset she is that she didn't try to help more.
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yes, this is just one of the UM stories that really touches people.

It reminds me of when my MIL first began to get confused before being diagnosed with dementia several years later. She had 2 episodes of this- she was driving at night in areas she was completely familiar with and were a part of her neighborhood. My DD was with her the first time-she only had her permit. MIL was driving and became totally disoriented-lost. DD had to drive them home and they were only a couple blocks from MIL's apartment. The other episode happened when she was late getting out of her hair appt. she was on her way home, just a few blocks away and she was stopped by a cop for driving erratically. She was lost and scared to death. She parked her car and he took her home. After that, she never drove at night again.

Mr Owens might have been perfectly fine most of the time, but could have been showing early signs of alzheimers/dementia.

Regardless, it's just doubly sad that this happened, and that he has never been found.
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Regardless, it's just doubly sad that this happened, and that he has never been found.
This is what I find most amazing about this sad case, the fact that they never found his body. How far could an 87 year old man have wandered off into the woods? You would think someone would have found some remains by now.
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Very sad case. I think George either had early Alzheimer's or completely undiagnosed Alzheimer's because this case has all the tell-tale signs of someone completely disoriented and confused which ended up costing him his life.

George driving hundreds of miles into the middle of nowhere, him leaving his keys in the ignition, the gathering of the firewood, him leaving his back-door open, and yes even him leaving his cane are all wholly consistent with someone suffering an episode of a mentally incapacitating illness.

It's entirely possible he hobbled off without his cane. That's very common among elderly patients who are suffering from sort of dementia. They'll often forget to put on their glasses, their clothes, or will randomly set their calendars six months ahead in their confused state.

Just because he was old and frail doesn't mean he wouldn't have gotten far. You'd be surprised how the elderly can get in their confused state. And just because the search was exhaustive doesn't mean his body was going to turn up. I googled searched Lobelville, TN and it is a very, very heavily wooded area. It's not a stretch to assume that he disappeared into the woods and that his dead body was covered up by the foliage.

What a sad way to end ones life. At least he's at peace now.

As for the clerk, she probably assumed he was a disoriented local who'd find his way home. She had NO way of knowing that he was at least 100 miles from home.
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