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Old 12-18-2012, 11:39 AM   #61
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But at best I feel that this is a 50/50 case. I don't see how a person can be on death row under these circumstances.
IMHO, I'd say it's maybe about 80/20 in favour of Darlie's guilt, but I also concur that I have no desire to see her executed. No matter how heinous the crime may be, that 20 % doubt would still leave me feeling very uncomfortable about actually going through with the execution. I don't think Darlie's ever getting out, but given how controversial this case is, I doubt the state will ever execute her.
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Second, most people insisted that Darlie's injuries were self-inflicted and non-life threatening, but closer analysis revealed that the knife wound in her neck would have killed her if it had been just as little as 1/16 of an inch deeper, and I just don't see how Darlie could have known to stop it right where she did.

I dont really see how that is relevant. Just because it was close to being a fatal wound doesnt mean it couldnt be self inflicted. She simply had no idea that she was close to clipping a main artery.
The story Darlie told makes no sense. The kids were killed with brutal stabs while Darlie received a few slashes. Why would anyone attack the little boys first when an adult is laying right next to them?
How plausible is it that someone broke into the house and then retrieved a knife from the kitchen in order to commit the crime?
There are many more inconsistencies and I have no doubt she is guilty. My only question is if Darin had anything to do with it or the attempted coverup.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:40 PM   #63
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I dont really see how that is relevant. Just because it was close to being a fatal wound doesnt mean it couldnt be self inflicted. She simply had no idea that she was close to clipping a main artery.
The story Darlie told makes no sense. The kids were killed with brutal stabs while Darlie received a few slashes. Why would anyone attack the little boys first when an adult is laying right next to them?
How plausible is it that someone broke into the house and then retrieved a knife from the kitchen in order to commit the crime?
There are many more inconsistencies and I have no doubt she is guilty. My only question is if Darin had anything to do with it or the attempted coverup.
The thing that bothers me about this case is that she appears to have injuries that could be defensive wounds from a struggle. I'd imagine the boys couldn't resist an attacker with as much effort as she could have since she is a grown adult. This makes some sense to me.

The question is motive but as we've seen some people are just ruthless and will kill for no apparent reason. Now this is speculation on my part. But why were the pictures of her injuries not allowed in court? Is this true or did the jury see the photos.
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I recently saw another show on Darlie (I think maybe Notorious or Women Behind Bars), and something I'd not known before was brought up: when she was on the 911 call, apparently one of her little boys was still alive (barely).

When you listen to the 911 call, you can hear Darlie immediately start talking about an intruder, rather than "omg operator what do I do to save my little boy, CPR or do I try to stop the blood flow or what?"

It's actually quite chilling to listen to when you're presented with the fact that while she's jabbering about this stealth intruder, her little son is gasping for life in the next room...and she's not trying to help him survive...
This is exactly the problem I have with the way the state convicted her. They looked at her reaction and judged her behavior during and after the event to form an opinion of guilt. They stocked her and focused 100% on her from day 1. How many other UM cases were just like this were it came out later that they did have the wrong person. Is there a textbook out there for reactions to these types of events? The fact is no one knows how they would react to a situation like this unless it happens. It's easy for us to judge but its completely different when something actually happens and most people respond to chaos and tragedy in different ways. Many people don't even know what they are doing or what they actually saw. This is why so many eye witness accounts are unreliable. I've also heard that it is common for women to block out or lose memory of tragic events that happen to them. I don't know how true that is but psychologists have said that this can happen.
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IMHO, I'd say it's maybe about 80/20 in favour of Darlie's guilt, but I also concur that I have no desire to see her executed. No matter how heinous the crime may be, that 20 % doubt would still leave me feeling very uncomfortable about actually going through with the execution. I don't think Darlie's ever getting out, but given how controversial this case is, I doubt the state will ever execute her.
My thoughts exactly.
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I think she's guilty as sin.


But I think she got railroaded at trial.
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yes the jury saw the photos.check the websleuths.com forum for more info.some of the posters there are highly informed about the case.it's just like LE said,the photos were there.
While I think Darlie is guilty,I do think Darin has something to hide,thus his pretending to defend her,esp. in the early days.I thought he came off as untruthful and highly defensive in the segment,esp. the part about denying they had financial problems,which of course they did.Just something about him does not sit right with me.JMO.
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The thing that bothers me about this case is that she appears to have injuries that could be defensive wounds from a struggle. I'd imagine the boys couldn't resist an attacker with as much effort as she could have since she is a grown adult. This makes some sense to me.

The question is motive but as we've seen some people are just ruthless and will kill for no apparent reason. Now this is speculation on my part. But why were the pictures of her injuries not allowed in court? Is this true or did the jury see the photos.
I haven't been keeping up with this case anymore but the last I read about Darlie's defensive wounds (dark purple bruising covering a large part of her arms, among other things) it was said that there were thousands of photos, all were admitted into evidence, but there were so many that the jury didn't take the time to go through all of them.

One of my concerns was that the photos used by the prosecution actually show severe bruising that look like Darlie had had her wrists restrained by a person's hands and that someone beat her arms until they were so purple they were nearly black. It takes a great amount of trauma to cause such deep bruising.

People who say Darlie is guilty claim that the prosecution's photos were obtained by Darlie's sympathizers after the trial, were photoshopped to make the bruising look much worse than it was, then were uploaded to the pro-Darlie website to make it look like she's been attacked when she hadn't.

Who knows what to believe, with all this crazy information being circulated online. IMO, there were WAY too many mistakes in her original trial and she deserves another trial where the Bleach Blonde Rowlett Police Officer's hair found at the scene is not admitted into court evidence as proof that Darlie poked her head through a sliced window screen.... plus a whole bunch of other stuff.
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I'm still waiting on the results of the DNA tests they allegedly performed earlier this year.
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I haven't been keeping up with this case anymore but the last I read about Darlie's defensive wounds (dark purple bruising covering a large part of her arms, among other things) it was said that there were thousands of photos, all were admitted into evidence, but there were so many that the jury didn't take the time to go through all of them.

One of my concerns was that the photos used by the prosecution actually show severe bruising that look like Darlie had had her wrists restrained by a person's hands and that someone beat her arms until they were so purple they were nearly black. It takes a great amount of trauma to cause such deep bruising.

People who say Darlie is guilty claim that the prosecution's photos were obtained by Darlie's sympathizers after the trial, were photoshopped to make the bruising look much worse than it was, then were uploaded to the pro-Darlie website to make it look like she's been attacked when she hadn't.

Who knows what to believe, with all this crazy information being circulated online. IMO, there were WAY too many mistakes in her original trial and she deserves another trial where the Bleach Blonde Rowlett Police Officer's hair found at the scene is not admitted into court evidence as proof that Darlie poked her head through a sliced window screen.... plus a whole bunch of other stuff.
I agree. Good post. I don't want to give people the idea that I think she's innocent. I just have doubts.
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The thing that bothers me about this case is that she appears to have injuries that could be defensive wounds from a struggle. I'd imagine the boys couldn't resist an attacker with as much effort as she could have since she is a grown adult. This makes some sense to me.

The question is motive but as we've seen some people are just ruthless and will kill for no apparent reason. Now this is speculation on my part. But why were the pictures of her injuries not allowed in court? Is this true or did the jury see the photos.

It just doesnt add up regardless of her wounds. She claimed she was sleeping downstairs because the baby's crying would keep her up but she slept while her sons were brutally murdered a couple feet from her. Attacking two small children who are not much of a physical threat before going after the adult sleeping three feet away is nonsensical especially when coupled with the fact that the murder weapon came from the kitchen.

Although I have no doubt she is guilty, it is obvious that anyone accused of murdering a child is going to have a hard time getting any public support regardless of the evidence.
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The 80's and 90's where the witchhunt days for child abusers. Some of the accused were innocent, like Patricia Stallings for example. They went after her aggressively when her son Ryan became ill and eventually died. Eventually, they found he died from a metabolic disorder and wasn't poisoned but the damage was already done to the Stallings family. That is sort of how I feel about the Routier case. To me, Darlie's case seems to be on both sides of the fence than to say she's either 100% guilty or 100% innocent. Courts in today's world don't care about truth or what is right, they just want to win cases and get the money. If they can prove she is innocent, great. If they can't prove innocence with 100% certainty, then she belongs in prison. I can't wait to find out the results of the recent DNA tests, I want to know the truth, right or wrong.
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Courts in today's world don't care about truth or what is right

That is one thing that irks me about many prosecuting attorneys. They look at getting a conviction is just another step at advancing their career and reputation and are willing to act unethically to get a conviction. You see it all the time when convictions are overturned. It seems that unethical behavior is common and the idea of justice is lost.
Im not saying that Darlie Routier is a victim of misconduct but there is no doubt that a case as publicized as hers can put a lot of pressure on a prosecutor to get a conviction.
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Courts in today's world don't care about truth or what is right, they just want to win cases and get the money.
I find that statement immensely reactionary, and moreover, simply untrue.

"Courts" do not receive compensation; attorneys do. Some lawyers are motivated largely by compensation, but again, so are others in just about every profession. It's akin to claiming ALL police officers aren't concerned with enforcing the law; they just want to shake people down and take bribes.
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That is one thing that irks me about many prosecuting attorneys. They look at getting a conviction is just another step at advancing their career and reputation and are willing to act unethically to get a conviction. You see it all the time when convictions are overturned.
That is presupposing all convictions are overturned because the convicts are innocent--which isn't always the case.


The sweeping generalizations are a little tiresome.
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