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Old 01-23-2022, 09:19 AM   #76
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Sal Guardado-the guy was a bum with little money, probably could barely scrap together bus fare, let alone a plane ticket to Hawaii or Puerto Rico as mentioned in the segment. Maybe he had connections in Mexico unaware to the detectives in the case.

Richard Bockledge-another guy who didn't seem like the type to have the resources to be on the lam for very long. I think he probably sent the letter to Tanya'a family as a condemnation before wandering off into the Canadian wilderness and took his own life (Dennis Depue did something similar).

Dale Kerstetter-I think if the platinum heist was an inside job, it was more likely carried out by one of the higher ups in the company, so they could blame Dale as the fall guy and collect insurance money or something. I don't think Dale is still alive, he either might have been tossed into one of the furnaces in the factory or his body was taken into the vast wilderness or the Great Lakes and dumped there.

"Debbie"-the assailants DNA was collected from her car, so I'm surprised they haven't found him through CODIS because he seemed like a repeat offender.

Marlene Santana-I'm only semi-surprised this case hasn't been solved. There's a chance she's still alive, probably under a different name. Another case of DNA ancestry that could work.

Justin Burgwinkel-I think he ran away to South America where he could have fought as a mercenary, or more likely joined the French Foreign Legion. Maybe he died in action before his then-handlers knew who he was, but didn't make the effort to properly identify him and return his remains.

Mark Groezinger-it's possible Judy might have done it, but the police don't seem to have even ruled her out by doing ballistics test with the revolver she purchased around the time of the murder.
I think Burgwinkel may have been suicidal, I think that he was living a lie and everything was going wrong very early on in his Army career. I think he was in over his head. but I guess it is possible that he was involved with some type of crime, that does happen.

Debbie is an interesting one. it is disappointing that the state trooper was close to confronting him in the act and opted to pull over a speeder. it really shows their priorities in North Carolina (and many other states as well)....I guess I'm being harsh in hindsight. Good point about the DNA, I guess it is still possible that he could be brought to justice if they are even still pursuing that angle?

Sal G...yeah I'm very surprised he was never caught.
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I agree I don't think he committed suicide either. This is a guy that if you looked up DB in the old Webster's dictionary it would have that picture they show at the end of the segment. now he may have died while on the run, I wouldn't discount that possibility and it would be karma if that happened. but he could be alive somewhere living on his own or under the cover of a loved one as you mentioned.
I found this interesting and detailed write up about Richard Bocklage the other day. His family is well aware that many people believe that they're helping him stay hidden. They interview Richard's cousin and she, of course, denies it. But she claims to not know. There's a couple statements that will make you want to roll your eyes but an interesting read nonetheless.

https://lasttraces.com/
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I agree I don't think he committed suicide either. This is a guy that if you looked up DB in the old Webster's dictionary it would have that picture they show at the end of the segment. now he may have died while on the run, I wouldn't discount that possibility and it would be karma if that happened. but he could be alive somewhere living on his own or under the cover of a loved one as you mentioned.
I found this interesting and detailed write up about Richard Bocklage the other day. His family is well aware that many people believe that they're helping him stay hidden. They interview Richard's cousin and she, of course, denies it. But she claims to not know. There's a couple statements that will make you want to roll your eyes but an interesting read nonetheless.

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Thanks for posting that...very interesting. The details that were not mentioned in the UM segment, the remoteness of the road and that Bocklage left a note saying he ran out of gas, make me convinced he killed himself in the woods with his .45.

Yes, Richard Bocklage was an extreme narcissist, but his life had completely unraveled and was out of control. Running out of gas in that remote area signaled to him that he was going to get caught and he had no other choices left but to take his own life. His symptoms and behavior before the murder were escalating and I don't believe someone like that can blend into society for 40 years with no further contact with law enforcement.
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Thanks for posting that...very interesting. The details that were not mentioned in the UM segment, the remoteness of the road and that Bocklage left a note saying he ran out of gas, make me convinced he killed himself in the woods with his .45.

Yes, Richard Bocklage was an extreme narcissist, but his life had completely unraveled and was out of control. Running out of gas in that remote area signaled to him that he was going to get caught and he had no other choices left but to take his own life. His symptoms and behavior before the murder were escalating and I don't believe someone like that can blend into society for 40 years with no further contact with law enforcement.
Then where is the body?
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Probably completely decomposed into skeleton out in the Manitoba wilderness. I have no doubt that a body in the "right" place out there might never be found.
I've always thought he decided to off himself ... or, short of that, underestimated the difficulty of surviving in the wilderness even in late September and October, when it's already starting to get pretty chilly up in Manitoba. He hasn't been seen or heard from in over 40 years. If indeed he's still alive, that takes a lot of skill to simply vanish off the face of the Earth.
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Then where is the body?
The article says his car was found on Provincial Road 280, north of Thompson, Manitoba, several miles south of Mystery Lake. PR280 is a gravel road that goes deep into the wilderness.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Th...!4d-97.8508715

Thompson is a decent sized city, if he didn't go back there, he'd be in the wildness...there's nothing else out there. It would be easy for a body to stay hidden forever out there.
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I too think Bocklage is dead and his remains are in the Canadian wilderness somewhere.
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While rural areas come to mind for many people, in reality rural areas can be difficult to hide in due to the nature of small towns, everyone knows everyone and outsiders are identified quickly.
Large cities are in some ways the easiest for someone to hide in, due to the sheer number of people in such a small area that for the most part don't know each other.

Its kind of difficult conceptually to say what cases "should" have been solved, since by definition they are unsolved, and thus the difficulty of the solution is unknown.
But if there was one I was surprised was never solved it was "Annie Laurie Hearin"
I was more thinking about people who live 'off the grid' rather than necessarily in small towns. My example on it is Eric Rudolph who successfully hid for.. What was it? 7 years or so? now, MOST people cannot do that, admittedly, because they don't have the survival skills to do it. But, it'd be interesting to think through your point.. is it easier to hide 'in plain sight' in a big city or in a smaller town?

A big city means more eyes are on you, but those eyes aren't concentrating as much on you.. While a small town has less eyes but more focus.

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Probably completely decomposed into skeleton out in the Manitoba wilderness. I have no doubt that a body in the "right" place out there might never be found.
I've always thought he decided to off himself ... or, short of that, underestimated the difficulty of surviving in the wilderness even in late September and October, when it's already starting to get pretty chilly up in Manitoba. He hasn't been seen or heard from in over 40 years. If indeed he's still alive, that takes a lot of skill to simply vanish off the face of the Earth.
Yeah.. We just had a case here where a road crew just now found a body of someone who disappeared 5 years ago.

https://www.independentmail.com/stor...85/9211394002/

People don't seem to quite understand that.. There's a number of places that people just don't go to very often. The above link, where that body was found, is not necessarily a really rural area. The sad part, it was about a mile away from where his car was found.. So.. Sounds like he had car issues or ran out of gas and started walking and SOMETHING went horribly wrong.

But, he was just sitting there for 5 years, waiting to be found.

one would THINK that they might have searched along the interstate for a mile or so..

It's not like when someone dies in the woods that a big smoke signal goes up.. Yeah, you'll often (around here, at least) have buzzards and the like over the area, but.. Same thing happens when a deer dies in the woods. And a small area of woods is.. Quite large when you're looking for something that may or may not be there.

EDIT - Someone said in another topic how they were shocked that someone could be missing 20+ years and they finally find their vehicle at the bottom of a pond during a drought or something. Again.. It just shocks me that people don't realize just how often that happens. There were.. 3 or 4 cases on Unsolved Mysteries that had that EXACT outcome. One, somewhere in the midwest where the guy and his girlfriend turned off on a country road accidentally and backed into a pond. The more surprising part about those cases to me is that the people don't.. You know.. GET OUT OF THE CAR.

But.. Even THAT can be explained, somewhat by panic. They hit the water and those car doors are NOT going to open due to the pressure. But, once the car fills up a little over halfway.. The doors will open. But, by that time, they're totally panicked. Newer vehicles, in the water the electric windows may not come down.. But the older cases, before power windows.. Again, I think it's panic.. The car's filling up.. Don't roll down the windows, it'll fill up quicker! Well.. Technically.. That's what you WANT.
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Dan Wilson, found pretty much in the area where he disappeared roughly seven years later, is another case in point. IIRC, that area was searched as well in the weeks following his disappearance and he wasn't found. Ultimately, he was about five miles from where his car was found.
For all we know, Patricia Meehan's remains may be out in a prairie somewhere. I tend to think that less than with Dan Wilson because searchers specifically lost her scent, but it's possible.
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Dan Wilson, found pretty much in the area where he disappeared roughly seven years later, is another case in point. IIRC, that area was searched as well in the weeks following his disappearance and he wasn't found. Ultimately, he was about five miles from where his car was found.
For all we know, Patricia Meehan's remains may be out in a prairie somewhere. I tend to think that less than with Dan Wilson because searchers specifically lost her scent, but it's possible.
Sure.. And.. What about the one where the entire family disappeared? umm.. Jamison Family. They find the car, with about 30k in cash and the family dog locked in it and then several years later find the remains of the family.

The problem is, when an area has been searched and someone isn't found.. THAT'S when the wild conspiracy theories start. Even the Jamison family.. I lean towards them getting disoriented (Possibly drug induced) and lost in the woods.
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