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kadrmas15 · 05-22-2010, 01:10 PM

Also, I take issue with the poster ripping on us arm chair detectives. All of us here are basically arm chaired detectives. I like how you rip on us for that yet you are doing the exact same thing.

Oldschooler81 · 05-25-2010, 03:16 AM

The problem with the idea of AJ himself becoming a fugitive and going on the run (other than it being out of his character)... is how do we explain the two acquaintance friends who saw him on the same day in the red car, looking like he was kidnapped?

Even if he did start drinking again, I think he would've turned up rather quickly (either coming to his senses and returning to his job and his kids and other friends). The scenario about him helping out someone from the AA club on his way home after leaving the store is possible though. Like they could've suddenly become violent.

Apostapler · 05-25-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldschooler81

The problem with the idea of AJ himself becoming a fugitive and going on the run (other than it being out of his character)... is how do we explain the two acquaintance friends who saw him on the same day in the red car, looking like he was kidnapped?

Even if he did start drinking again, I think he would've turned up rather quickly (either coming to his senses and returning to his job and his kids and other friends). The scenario about him helping out someone from the AA club on his way home after leaving the store is possible though. Like they could've suddenly become violent.

AJ leaving on his own has another problem...he left his car.

Oldschooler81 · 05-25-2010, 05:40 PM

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AJ leaving on his own has another problem...he left his car.

Yeah, that stands out more than anything.

Just wondered - what does anyone make of the golf course janitor guy who says he saw AJ (or someone who looked like him) being kidnapped?

What's interesting in the reenactment is that the car was a white Volvo (not the red one his two friends later saw him in/around), and that it was in the daytime. Yet AJ disappeared at night when he was on his way home from the conveinence store.

Apostapler · 05-26-2010, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldschooler81

Yeah, that stands out more than anything.

Just wondered - what does anyone make of the golf course janitor guy who says he saw AJ (or someone who looked like him) being kidnapped?

What's interesting in the reenactment is that the car was a white Volvo (not the red one his two friends later saw him in/around), and that it was in the daytime. Yet AJ disappeared at night when he was on his way home from the conveinence store.

Here are my opinions of the witnesses recollections:

Maintenance person- I don't believe this is a positive ID...did he even know who AJ was? Witnesses who don't know the subject are very unreliable.

Woman who "AJ" attempted to sell fish to- see above, same reasons

Man who saw "AJ" in car- slightly more credible than the others. This person knew AJ personally, but saw him riding in a passing vehicle.

Man who saw "AJ" at phone booth- This would be a credible sighting to me...the guy knew AJ personally for many years, saw him in person, and said hello to him.

sdb4884 · 05-26-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Apostapler

Here are my opinions of the witnesses recollections:

Maintenance person- I don't believe this is a positive ID...did he even know who AJ was? Witnesses who don't know the subject are very unreliable.

Woman who "AJ" attempted to sell fish to- see above, same reasons

Man who saw "AJ" in car- slightly more credible than the others. This person knew AJ personally, but saw him riding in a passing vehicle.

Man who saw "AJ" at phone booth- This would be a credible sighting to me...the guy knew AJ personally for many years, saw him in person, and said hello to him.

Yeah Kenneth Pelliegrin. The actor who played him looked nothing like him. His testimony was the most belivable but the witness who saw him driving by did see AJ in the same colour car and with the same amount of occupants.

Mastermind · 05-26-2010, 10:00 AM

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AJ leaving on his own has another problem...he left his car.

Not unusual for fugitives or runaways to find alternative transportation.

Remember that police can give your car license and description in the APB.

Coffeeface · 08-04-2010, 01:22 PM

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Perhaps the abduters knew he would not go anywhere. AJ may have known they could find him and kill him at any time. Plus, AJ probably has to consider these guys could kill his family as wel if he escaped. It was most likely a "no-win" situation for AJ.

As I said before, I could easily see a scenario were AJ was jacked by some people he owed money to. These guys probably stripped his clothes and beat him up. They made an ultimatum to him--Get the money to us by a certain time or you die!.

Sadly I don;t think AJ got the money in time.

So far, that's the only theory that makes sense to me. I've really been chewing on this one for long time. I just can't believe this guy disappeared into thin air. Also, I don't think the lady in blue who saw him selling fish is correct. I think she is mistaken.

cocytus · 12-07-2010, 03:09 PM

Just finished viewing this segment and I have questions of my own:

1) Did anyone else happen to notice that Mr Breaux's financial status was not mentioned in the segment? They never say if he was having troubles with his business or with his personal finances. That could be a primary motivator if he disappeared on his own.

2) He was living with his daughter according to the segment. That would likely mean that he didn't have any female companionship. Is it possible that Mr. Breaux was/is gay? Could he have run into some unsavory companions during a tryst?

3) If, as shown in the segment he had changed clothes, where were his original clothes? Did they find any clothes in his abandoned car?

4) if he was abducted, as it is implied several times throughout the segment, what was the purpose of the abduction? Did he often carry large amounts of cash? Could somebody have wanted him to break into his business and get some cash for them? Did he even have any money of his own?

5) The quart of milk he shown purchasing; whatever happened to that? Was it in the car?

6) Why would his daughter have thought that he would be in the trunk of his car? Of all the statements in the segment, that struck me is the most odd as the was no reason to suspect that he was dead at that time. Was Mr. Breaux involved in some type of gambling or criminal activity?

7) Of the four eyewitness sightings, personally I only believed to: the woman in the store where Mr. Breaux bought the milk and the gentleman that recognized him on the pay phone. The other two sightings seemed kind of sketchy. Especially the frozen fish sighting (he only stopped at her home and offered her some fish?)

8) IMHO, the note was obviously a forgery. If Mr. Breaux had accidentally shot himself, why dump the body in the river? Why not simply leave it where the accident had occurred? or taken to a hospital?

Very strange case that probably won't be solved without a confession or Mr. Breaux's body being discovered.

TheCars1986 · 06-16-2011, 10:18 AM

I had only seen this case once years ago, but it was recently re-aired on Lifetime with Farina as the host. They left out the part of the eyewitness who claims to have seen Breaux being abducted, (shocker I know) which throws the case in a whole other direction. I was thinking the most likely possibility was that his demons overcame him that night, he stopped off for a drink, then that turned into 12 and he killed himself because he was ashamed of what he'd done. But if that eyewitness was reliable, he most certainly was abducted and murdered.

welshman · 06-30-2011, 03:09 PM

I've recently seen this case on the site that will not be mentioned after thinking I'd seen all the good episodes I was very intrigued by it, a few points i'd like to mention are,

If AJ thought he was being followed he might have turned into the park to see if the car passed him by and when it followed him in he might have dumped his wallet and keys under the seat thinking he was being robbed,

The fact that two people say they saw him in strange clothing/vehicle before they knew he was missing is believable seeing that he wasn't on their minds and wasn't in a familiar setting or clothing which would be more likely to cause false sightings.

Being an ex alcholic would have toughened him up and it's possible he made a decision to not phone anyone to get a ransom in the hope the kidnappers would give up.

It would have been a good idea for the kidnappers to use two different vehicles one to kidnap and then one to use afterwards which would explain why the janitor saw a different vehicle.

The "fish" witness confuses me she only knew him from the flyer but didn't recognise him when she saw the photo that was in the flyer!

I don't believe the theories about drugs, debt or orgies. What happened to the milk is a mystery if he chose to disappear then he took it with him but it's hard to imagine kidnappers would take it or let him bring it.

My last point is that on the site that will not be mentioned someone who claims to be related to Kenneth Pelligren (the payphone witness) says "hes the biggest liar that ive even known" whether I can believe someone who writes "even" instead of ever is up to debate.

TheCars1986 · 07-01-2011, 07:22 AM

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My last point is that on the site that will not be mentioned someone who claims to be related to Kenneth Pelligren (the payphone witness) says "hes the biggest liar that ive even known" whether I can believe someone who writes "even" instead of ever is up to debate.

I don't see any reason the man would have to lie about seeing AJ. For an appearance on UM? Not likely. I've always wondered who AJ was talking to on the payphone when Pelligren saw him outside the store.

welshman · 07-01-2011, 08:03 AM

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I don't see any reason the man would have to lie about seeing AJ. For an appearance on UM? Not likely. I've always wondered who AJ was talking to on the payphone when Pelligren saw him outside the store.

If he had been kidnapped the kidnappers could have told him to phone his family for a ransom, knowing it would look odd to see two men near one phone they let him do it on his own and he either phoned a random number or didn't call anyone at all in the hope that they would give up, but that doesn't answer why he didn't phone the police unless he thought that would endanger his life even more?

TheCars1986 · 07-02-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by welshman

If he had been kidnapped the kidnappers could have told him to phone his family for a ransom, knowing it would look odd to see two men near one phone they let him do it on his own and he either phoned a random number or didn't call anyone at all in the hope that they would give up, but that doesn't answer why he didn't phone the police unless he thought that would endanger his life even more?

Was there ever a motive presented which would give anyone a reson to kidnap AJ and hold him for ransom?

welshman · 07-02-2011, 09:40 AM

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Was there ever a motive presented which would give anyone a reson to kidnap AJ and hold him for ransom?

The segment does say say he worked in the same store for thirty years so maybe someone thought he owned it apart from that I don't think so.

06-16-2011, 10:18 AM	#85
TheCars1986 Proud Daddy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,707	I had only seen this case once years ago, but it was recently re-aired on Lifetime with Farina as the host. They left out the part of the eyewitness who claims to have seen Breaux being abducted, (shocker I know) which throws the case in a whole other direction. I was thinking the most likely possibility was that his demons overcame him that night, he stopped off for a drink, then that turned into 12 and he killed himself because he was ashamed of what he'd done. But if that eyewitness was reliable, he most certainly was abducted and murdered.
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06-30-2011, 03:09 PM	#86
welshman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 13, 2011 Location: wales Posts: 78	WELSHMAN I've recently seen this case on the site that will not be mentioned after thinking I'd seen all the good episodes I was very intrigued by it, a few points i'd like to mention are, If AJ thought he was being followed he might have turned into the park to see if the car passed him by and when it followed him in he might have dumped his wallet and keys under the seat thinking he was being robbed, The fact that two people say they saw him in strange clothing/vehicle before they knew he was missing is believable seeing that he wasn't on their minds and wasn't in a familiar setting or clothing which would be more likely to cause false sightings. Being an ex alcholic would have toughened him up and it's possible he made a decision to not phone anyone to get a ransom in the hope the kidnappers would give up. It would have been a good idea for the kidnappers to use two different vehicles one to kidnap and then one to use afterwards which would explain why the janitor saw a different vehicle. The "fish" witness confuses me she only knew him from the flyer but didn't recognise him when she saw the photo that was in the flyer! I don't believe the theories about drugs, debt or orgies. What happened to the milk is a mystery if he chose to disappear then he took it with him but it's hard to imagine kidnappers would take it or let him bring it. My last point is that on the site that will not be mentioned someone who claims to be related to Kenneth Pelligren (the payphone witness) says "hes the biggest liar that ive even known" whether I can believe someone who writes "even" instead of ever is up to debate.

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05-22-2010, 01:10 PM	#76
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,892	Also, I take issue with the poster ripping on us arm chair detectives. All of us here are basically arm chaired detectives. I like how you rip on us for that yet you are doing the exact same thing.

05-25-2010, 03:16 AM	#77
Oldschooler81 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 03, 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 454	The problem with the idea of AJ himself becoming a fugitive and going on the run (other than it being out of his character)... is how do we explain the two acquaintance friends who saw him on the same day in the red car, looking like he was kidnapped? Even if he did start drinking again, I think he would've turned up rather quickly (either coming to his senses and returning to his job and his kids and other friends). The scenario about him helping out someone from the AA club on his way home after leaving the store is possible though. Like they could've suddenly become violent.

12-07-2010, 03:09 PM	#84
cocytus Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 15, 2010 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 779	Just finished viewing this segment and I have questions of my own: 1) Did anyone else happen to notice that Mr Breaux's financial status was not mentioned in the segment? They never say if he was having troubles with his business or with his personal finances. That could be a primary motivator if he disappeared on his own. 2) He was living with his daughter according to the segment. That would likely mean that he didn't have any female companionship. Is it possible that Mr. Breaux was/is gay? Could he have run into some unsavory companions during a tryst? 3) If, as shown in the segment he had changed clothes, where were his original clothes? Did they find any clothes in his abandoned car? 4) if he was abducted, as it is implied several times throughout the segment, what was the purpose of the abduction? Did he often carry large amounts of cash? Could somebody have wanted him to break into his business and get some cash for them? Did he even have any money of his own? 5) The quart of milk he shown purchasing; whatever happened to that? Was it in the car? 6) Why would his daughter have thought that he would be in the trunk of his car? Of all the statements in the segment, that struck me is the most odd as the was no reason to suspect that he was dead at that time. Was Mr. Breaux involved in some type of gambling or criminal activity? 7) Of the four eyewitness sightings, personally I only believed to: the woman in the store where Mr. Breaux bought the milk and the gentleman that recognized him on the pay phone. The other two sightings seemed kind of sketchy. Especially the frozen fish sighting (he only stopped at her home and offered her some fish?) 8) IMHO, the note was obviously a forgery. If Mr. Breaux had accidentally shot himself, why dump the body in the river? Why not simply leave it where the accident had occurred? or taken to a hospital? Very strange case that probably won't be solved without a confession or Mr. Breaux's body being discovered.