Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads / View New Posts / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board


Unsolved Mysteries Online Main Page / Message Board / Show History / Episode Guide (1987-2002) / Expanded Episode Guide #2 / Expanded Episode Guide #3 / Case Updates / Wiki / Official Site / Related Links / True Crime Shows Message Board / All Other Cases Message Board / Buy The Best of Unsolved Mysteries DVD / Buy Unsolved Mysteries - The Ultimate Collection DVD

Unsolved Mysteries: Original Robert Stack Episodes - The Complete First Season

Watch or Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Original Robert Stack Episodes - The Complete First Season on Amazon Instant Video
/
Season 2
/ Season 3 / Season 4 /
Season 5
/ Season 6 / Season 7 /
Season 8
/ Season 9 / Season 10 /
Season 11
/ Season 12 / Watch on YouTube

Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina Episodes

Watch or Buy Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - The Complete First Season Episodes on Amazon Instant Video
/ Season 2 / Season 3 / Season 4 / Season 5 / Season 6 / Season 7 / Season 8 / Watch on YouTube


Unsolved Mysteries: UFOs

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: UFOs DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Ghosts

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Ghosts DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Miracles

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Miracles DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Bizarre Murders

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Bizarre Murders DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Psychics

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Psychics DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Strange Legends

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Strange Legends DVD Set

Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > Unsolved Mysteries

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Twitter Facebook Instagram RSS

77th Annual Golden Globe Awards Nominees; Hugh Laurie HBO Comedy Set for January
Remembering René Auberjonois of Benson; Brady Bunch Star to Give Tour of White House on HGTV
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of December 9, 2019)
SitcomsOnline Digest: New Sitcom from Chuck Lorre Under Development at CBS; Remembering Legendary TV Producer Leonard Goldberg
Fri-Yay: The Good Place Nearing the End; TBS Orders More Misery Index
Antenna TV's News Year's Day with NewsRadio Marathon; American Housewife Star Gets Netflix Comedy Specials
ABC's Schooled Gets Full Sophomore Year; Pop TV Rings in the New Year with Schitt's Creek


New on DVD/Blu-ray (October/November/December)

Life with Lucy - The Complete Series Step by Step - The Complete Fifth Season The Big Bang Theory - The Twelfth and Final Season The King of Queens - The Complete Series (Mill Creek) Fuller House - The Complete Fourth Season

10/08 - Leave it to Beaver - The Complete Series
10/08 - Life with Lucy - The Complete Series
10/15 - Mom - The Complete Sixth Season
10/16 - Our Miss Brooks - Season 1 - Volume 1
10/16 - Our Miss Brooks - Season 1 - Volume 2
11/05 - The Fonz and the Happy Days Gang - The Complete Animated Series
11/05 - Laverne & Shirley in the Army (Animated Series) - The DVD Edition
11/05 - Letterkenny - Seasons 1 & 2
11/05 - Step by Step - The Complete Fifth Season (WBShop.com)
11/12 - The Big Bang Theory - The Twelfth and Final Season (Blu-ray)
11/12 - The Big Bang Theory - The Complete Series (Blu-ray Limited Edition)
11/18 - The Guest Book - Season Two
11/19 - The King of Queens - The Complete Series (Mill Creek)
11/19 - The Kominsky Method - The Complete First Season (Blu-ray)
12/03 - The Simpsons - The Nineteenth Season
12/03 - The Simpsons - Seasons 1-20: Limited Collector's Set
12/10 - Family Guy - Season Seventeen
12/17 - Fuller House - The Complete Fourth Season
More TV DVD Releases / DVD Reviews Archive / SitcomsOnline Digest


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-03-2005, 08:54 PM   #1
DarkDante
Member
Senior Member
 
DarkDante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 27, 2002
Posts: 1,549
Default Theory On Michael Rosenblum

I love the older episodes and I got a number of them on tape and have been going through them over the past week or so. One that has always intrigued me is the case of Michael Rosenblum, the Pennslyvania teenager who mysteriously vanished on Valentine's Day of 1980. Rosenblum was one of the many young victims of the "drug war" that was gripping the youth of our country at that time and was into heavy illegal prescription drug use. On the night before he vanished Michael's parents turfed him from the house and told him to "sober up". The next day Michael who was suffering from a severe drug hangover was asked by his girlfriend Lisa to check himself into a hospital, Michael refused and took off with her car saying he'd meet her back at his parents house a few hours later. Michael never showed up and remained missing for around ten years. During these years allegations arose involving the Baldwin Police Department's role in Michael's disappearance including allegations of a cover up stemming from the apparent impounding of Michael's girlfriend's car without giving her notice that it was impounded. The car later turned up and the police chief Gaboolie proffered a letter that he claimed to had mailed two days after the car was impounded (the day Michael vanished 2-14-80 so the letter according to Gaboolie would have been mailed on the 16th) - It was later shown that the letter was not widely circulated even around the police department and in fact was typed on or around May 20, 1980 - Michael's father Maurice campaigned to have the Chief of police removed from his post and was temporarily successful although Gaboolie eventually got his post back.

In the interim the Baldwin police issued a warrant for Michael's arrest two months after his disappearance and Maurice Rosenblum was beginning to recieve phone calls that Michael had been arrested by the Baldwin Police on the day of his disappearance. For their part the Baldwin Police denied any knowledge to both the Pittsburgh police department or the general public in regards to Michael Rosenblum's disappearance. Michael Rosenblum's remains were later found and identified ten years later scattered down a cliff in Baldwin, Pennslyvania but because of the aging of the remains and their condition a likely cause of death will never be arrived at based on the forensic evidence alone. What follows is my theory on the final hours of Michael Rosenblum on 2-14-80. It may be a bit crackpot and is not intended as a indictment of the Baldwin Police Department specifically but I figured it might be a good way to brook some discussion on the case.

On 2-14-80 Michael Rosenblum was suffering from a severe drug hangover (ie: he probably also still had some of the illicit drugs in his system as well) and was driving his girlfriend's car around the Baldwin, Pennslyvania area. He was angry at his parents for turfing him from their house the previous evening and as previously stated probably was still suffering from a bit of a hangover. Michael's refusal to be admitted to the hospital is key here, it should become obvious to the viewer of the UM segment that Rosenblum did not want ANYONE in any official capacity be it a doctor, a social worker or a police officer to find he had drugs in his system for obvious reasons.

Rosenblum might have been pulled over by the Baldwin police shortly after taking off with his girlfriend's car - Let's suppose it was just a minor traffic offense due to the hangover lets say Michael was driving erratically. Michael Rosenblum obviously does not want to be brought in for any type of drug test because he would then be looking at a stiff penalty including possible jail time. Rosenblum resists arrest and/or initiates an altercation with the arresting officers and during this altercation he is killed possibly not deliberatley but perhaps somebody got him with an "unlucky punch" or something or even hit him with an object. The arresting officers realize that they might have a case of police brutality on their hands and over the next few hours dispose of Michael's body in a shallow grave at the bottom of the cliff in Baldwin. They leave the car abandoned on River Road where it is found and impounded several hours later by another officer Chester Lombardi and so begins the entire web of events detailed in the UM segement. This is just my theory about what happened to Michael Rosenblum -

Nothing else that I've racked through my mind makes any sense at the moment as to why this boy's body would end up at the bottom of a cliff. I thought maybe Michael who was under the influence of drugs had a car accident (there was tire damage to the car) and died during this accident - Well that is all well and good but there would be no reason to cover that up as it is simply a sad case of a teenage boy knocked out on too many prescription pain killers having a tragic and fatal car accident. The family would have been notified of the tragedy immediatley. I thought maybe a random act of violence but again that doesn't make sense either given the background laid out by the UM segment. In my mind in some way shape or form Michael ran afoul of the law that day and died likely because of it. Also two disturbing questions still remain regarding the Baldwin police: In addition to not notifying Michael's girlfriend about the state of her car, the Baldwin police's accusations that Rosenblum was involved in a robbery attempt two months after his disappearance says one thing to me: that the Baldwin police thought it better that Rosenblum would be percieved in the eyes of the Baldwin public as not only still being alive but alive and well in their very own community when this was obviously not true!

Also if you "buy into" this theory the fact that Rosenblum's remains were found in a deserted area where few people would travel on a day to day basis is key because the people who killed Michael also thought it would be better if Michael Rosenblum was percieved still alive but missing instead of deceased. Nobody involved with this crime wanted it to be known that Michael Rosenblum was dead or to have his remains found.

Later.
DarkDante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2008, 08:47 PM   #2
rickpryor
Member
First Time Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 27, 2008
Posts: 1
Default True.

I think Michael's body was killed somewhere else and left to decompose for a couple years. Afterwards, the person(s) involved in the crime dumped different body parts along the place where he was last seen. The chief is definitely suspect number one.
rickpryor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2008, 08:36 AM   #3
Drakken
Member
Forum Regular
 
Drakken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 21, 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 364
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDante
Nothing else that I've racked through my mind makes any sense at the moment as to why this boy's body would end up at the bottom of a cliff.
Michael's clothing parts weren't found at the bottom of the cliff, but above the road, overlooking the location where his girlfriend's car had been found by the Baldwin police. So it has not gone downward, but gone upward! How did these pieces of clothing find themselves laying above the level of disappearance scene, and not below?

Also, not all remains were found, but only a piece of human bone and pieces of garments and corduroy from his clothes (above River Road) and the skull fragment (at the site three miles away). The skull fragment could have been carried away by scavengers weeks or months after death. I have more faith that the human bone found near of the pieces of clothing, though, was were Michael's body was laid to decompose.
Drakken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2008, 09:16 AM   #4
nohwheregirl
THE Mystery Machine
Senior Member
 
nohwheregirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 23, 2004
Posts: 1,043
Default

Your theory is as good as any I've heard. I always thought he died in police custody, and it would have to be under suspicious/illegal circumstances or they would have no reason to cover it up. I imagined that it was an interrogation gone bad. Like maybe they found drugs in his car or something, brought him in, he was defiant, and somebody just lost it.

What's really sad about this story is that it amounts to every parents' worst nightmare. Parents are told not to enable their children who are using drugs. Michael's parents did the right thing, and they never saw their son again. I don't place any blame on them at all, but you have to imagine that they blamed themselves to a certain extent.
nohwheregirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 07:48 PM   #5
SitcomsAreTheWay
Retro Sitcoms Fanatic
Forum Regular
 
SitcomsAreTheWay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 12, 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nohwheregirl

What's really sad about this story is that it amounts to every parents' worst nightmare. Parents are told not to enable their children who are using drugs. Michael's parents did the right thing, and they never saw their son again. I don't place any blame on them at all, but you have to imagine that they blamed themselves to a certain extent.
They definitely did the right thing. Michael needed to get himself together and they were only laying down the law within their household. I'm sure they loved him dearly, but it just couldn't be tolerated. It was bad enough that he was using in the first place and they had to draw the line. How could they ever have expected him to disappear afterwards? It's heartbreaking because it's as if they viewed it as some kind of karma for having demanded that he leave.
SitcomsAreTheWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 10:27 AM   #6
DarkDante
Member
Senior Member
 
DarkDante's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 27, 2002
Posts: 1,549
Default

^ I don't think "tough love" works at all at least in the way that Michael's parents chose to use it. I obviously don't blame them for their son's death as that was a horrible turn of events but between this case and the death of a close friend in my own life, I've almost made it a personal mission when I counsel parents of children who have drug problems to persuade them to avoid "tough love" at any and all costs. I don't think it works and I think its propaganda thought up by people who were misinformed on how to deal with addicts.
DarkDante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 02:48 PM   #7
slasherman
Member
Frequent Poster
 
slasherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 20, 2008
Location: Norway
Posts: 104
Default

My theory is that he died because he was on drugs and frustrated(driving away from his girlfriend). When his car wheels got flat due to bad driving or something in the road. He walked from the car and died. Either from a natural causes due to heavy drug use, accident or suicide. His body then was lying there so that animals and nature (wind and rain) would spread it around, some will also fall into the river. The strange behavior of police could be explained with bad police work and errors in the red tape. That's what I feel about this case. Sorry if I destroy the mystery

Last edited by slasherman; 04-10-2008 at 03:10 PM.
slasherman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 04:54 PM   #8
crystaldawn
Member
Senior Member
 
crystaldawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 17, 2002
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,137
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slasherman
My theory is that he died because he was on drugs and frustrated(driving away from his girlfriend). When his car wheels got flat due to bad driving or something in the road. He walked from the car and died. Either from a natural causes due to heavy drug use, accident or suicide. His body then was lying there so that animals and nature (wind and rain) would spread it around, some will also fall into the river. The strange behavior of police could be explained with bad police work and errors in the red tape. That's what I feel about this case. Sorry if I destroy the mystery
I do think thats a very plausible theory on what happened. Sometimes UM goes out of their way to incinuate something sinister when its possible it didn't happen that way. I think there's a very good chance that Michael Rosenblum died of a drug overdose and the coverup by police wasn't to hide his murder but just to hide their incompetent actions in his case.
crystaldawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 10:16 AM   #9
SitcomsAreTheWay
Retro Sitcoms Fanatic
Forum Regular
 
SitcomsAreTheWay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 12, 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 596
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDante
^ I don't think "tough love" works at all at least in the way that Michael's parents chose to use it. I obviously don't blame them for their son's death as that was a horrible turn of events but between this case and the death of a close friend in my own life, I've almost made it a personal mission when I counsel parents of children who have drug problems to persuade them to avoid "tough love" at any and all costs. I don't think it works and I think its propaganda thought up by people who were misinformed on how to deal with addicts.
Well considering that you actually counsel those who are in search of help for their loved one(s), or/and are distressed by the drug problem of their loved one(s), what do you suggest? Though I'm aware that not all cases are successful, overall, is process involved? Have you ever counseled those who have done all they possibly could (or presumed themselves to have), but were stricken by tragedy regardless?
SitcomsAreTheWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2008, 09:17 PM   #10
charmedsignora
Member
Frequent Poster
 
charmedsignora's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 31, 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 196
Default

Regarding this case, I think that the police chief's "incompetence" was strictly that: incompetence. I don't think he actually murdered Michael Rosenblum. I don't think anybody did.

Either Michael died of natural causes while being held by the police and they covered it up by getting rid of the body, or the tires of his car went flat and he was so frustrated that he decided to take a hike to clear his mind and he came across something in the mountains.
__________________
"Just an honest, clean kind of person."
charmedsignora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2008, 03:53 PM   #11
dianel
Member
First Time Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 09, 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 1
Oh No Very very sad

I met Michael in 1974 while vacationing in Long Beach Island, Beach Haven, N.J., I was 16 years old at the time. I am a Canadian from Quebec and every summer I spent two weeks in Beach Haven with my family. When I met Michael, he was with his cousin, two very nice guys, I found Michael very charming and fell for him. He was funny and down to earth. He introduced me to his parents... two beautiful people.
We met again in 1975 and we'd write in between. When I returned summer 1976, I was very disappointed to find a different Michael, he was in his own world, obviously on drugs.
I remember he once said to me '' one day I will come to Canada and surprise you!'' needless to say, many mornings when I heard a car pulling down our driveway, I'd get out of bed to see if it was Michael surprising me. I waited. But he never did surprise me. And he stopped writing. It was only in 1986 that I heard about him on unsolved mysteries. I was shocked and very sad by the news. I tried to find his letters, but never did find them. I do believe the theory that he tried to avoid being stopped by the police for obvious reasons and that's when things got out of hand. But we will never know. This is truly a sad story.

Last edited by dianel; 06-11-2008 at 11:26 AM.
dianel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2008, 02:35 PM   #12
Corky Kneivel
Member
Forum Regular
 
Corky Kneivel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 12, 2007
Location: Sacratomato
Posts: 534
Default

**** I love this website.
Corky Kneivel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2008, 08:35 AM   #13
sdb4884
UM Meme Guy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 31, 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,140
Default

If they have the word Unsolved Mystery in the dictionary they should include this case as an example.

It is a mystery in the true sense of the word.
sdb4884 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2009, 02:22 PM   #14
mercy1825
Member
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: May 04, 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 141
Default

I realize this is an older thread but since there seems to be many of you interested in the fate of this young man Michael Rosenblum, I just wanted to make a few things clear.

All of my life I have live in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where Michael disappeared. Baldwin is basically a city community with its own police jurisdiction because it is a suburban neighborhood right across the river from downtown Pittsburgh. Only bridges seperate Baldwin from the inner city. Where Michael's car was found and where all the footage was shown on the UM segment are HEAVILY TRAFFICED urban areas. Personally I have driven around that area thousands of times and it is inconceivable to me that somebody could wonder off and die there without any witnessess. We are talking about bumper to bumper urban traffic every day of the work week. The wooded areas depicted were Mt. Washington, which is a scenic overlook to the downtown area on the Baldwin side of the river. There are lookout posts complete with binoculars and telescopes, scenic overlooks, also many climbers who adventure through the area as a hobby.

I believe that Michael died or was killed elsewhere and somebody intentionally disposed of his body in a way that it would not be found. I believe the Baldwin police surely made significant errors in this case but I do not think they were directly responsible for his death. I feel this way because of the locations involved, how heavily trafficed they are, and how far would have been able to travel on foot. Another theory is that he fell or was thrown into the river which connects to the Ohio River which connects to the Mississippi River. I do not know much about river currents however.

Just was curious if anyone was intrested or wanted to discuss this case. Always been one of my favorites because it is so close to home.
mercy1825 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2009, 12:06 PM   #15
UMfan77
Member
Senior Member
 
UMfan77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 28, 2003
Posts: 1,032
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mercy1825
Where Michael's car was found and where all the footage was shown on the UM segment are HEAVILY TRAFFICED urban areas. Personally I have driven around that area thousands of times and it is inconceivable to me that somebody could wonder off and die there without any witnessess. We are talking about bumper to bumper urban traffic every day of the work week...
I also don't believe that he had "wandered around and died". If Michael was disoriented from drugs and wandering around, he would have been found by someone that knew him. He was from the area and probably had a lot of aquaintences/friends.
UMfan77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:41 AM.


Frequently Asked Questions

1) How do I contact Unsolved Mysteries with information on segments?

If you any information on cases, you can contact them via:

Website: www.unsolved.com

Contact form on official Unsolved Mysteries site

Please note that their old mailing address and 1-800 phone number no longer work.


2) Where can I watch Unsolved Mysteries?

Unsolved Mysteries is available for streaming on Amazon Instant Video, YouTube and Hulu.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.