Was Crystal Spencer murdered?

[Mastermind]

If the autopsy was botched, that kind of throws everything out the window in terms of whether there was evidence of foul play.

In terms of how she was murdered, i vote strangulation.

[Cori aka ChrisSCrush]

There was another Unsolved Mysteries where the lady thought she was just sick, but had been poisoned by her husband. Then the husband intimidated her friend to leave so he could finish her off.

[aussie rules]

Originally Posted by Mastermind

If the autopsy was botched, that kind of throws everything out the window in terms of whether there was evidence of foul play.

In terms of how she was murdered, i vote strangulation.

Crystal spencer was murdered PERIOD. She went to a party that was hosted by HORACE MCKENNA an ex Burbank cop- that was at the time 1988- heavily involved in both child pornography and cocaine. Crystal went to his party and was VERY VOCAL( she spoke up) at the type of party it was-Old men ,some of them MAY have been cops, having sex with 8-10 year olds. Horrace freaked out -kicked her out of the party, and then 3 days later made sure she was sold a tainted bag of coke that was laced with borac acid. She died from poisoning. One of the most painful ways to go I have been told. Horace was later killed himself and he was on unsolved mysteries also(the story of his death) I personally received 2 different phone calls from some of the other strippers that were there, and they both told me the same story. I am Crystals Brother.

[Cori aka ChrisSCrush]

Condolences on the loss of your sister and thanks for sending enlightening details. I suppose those responsible for this made sure enough time had passed that this couldn't be tested (meaning, remains which have been immediately well-preserved can sometimes retain evidence years later--was this not an option in this case?)

It's so sad that people who have witnessed something that might put them in danger can't go somewhere safe till they reveal all they know to authorities who can be trusted.

[spark19]

Originally Posted by unmy91

but even though her body was badly decomposed, they still should've been able to find signs of foul play. and who gets a cold in may? it had to have been something more serious.

LMAO, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard! Okay, not ever, but probably the dumbest thing today. I've gotten several colds in May, and I live in Texas. It's called too much flipping air conditioning.

[spark19]

Originally Posted by aussie rules

Crystal spencer was murdered PERIOD. She went to a party that was hosted by HORACE MCKENNA an ex Burbank cop- that was at the time 1988- heavily involved in both child pornography and cocaine. Crystal went to his party and was VERY VOCAL( she spoke up) at the type of party it was-Old men ,some of them MAY have been cops, having sex with 8-10 year olds. Horrace freaked out -kicked her out of the party, and then 3 days later made sure she was sold a tainted bag of coke that was laced with borac acid. She died from poisoning. One of the most painful ways to go I have been told. Horace was later killed himself and he was on unsolved mysteries also(the story of his death) I personally received 2 different phone calls from some of the other strippers that were there, and they both told me the same story. I am Crystals Brother.

My condolences as well. Is there anything that's being done about this? That can be done about this?

[Cori aka ChrisSCrush]

Originally Posted by spark19

My condolences as well. Is there anything that's being done about this? That can be done about this?

Can anyone do an update including these suspicions, with or without physical evidence?

[unmy91]

Originally Posted by spark19

LMAO, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard! Okay, not ever, but probably the dumbest thing today. I've gotten several colds in May, and I live in Texas. It's called too much flipping air conditioning.

what the f ever

[unmy91]

Originally Posted by Cori aka ChrisSCrush

Condolences on the loss of your sister and thanks for sending enlightening details. I suppose those responsible for this made sure enough time had passed that this couldn't be tested (meaning, remains which have been immediately well-preserved can sometimes retain evidence years later--was this not an option in this case?)

It's so sad that people who have witnessed something that might put them in danger can't go somewhere safe till they reveal all they know to authorities who can be trusted.

how do u know that's even real?

[nohwheregirl]

Originally Posted by unmy91

how do u know that's even real?

Well, you don't. That's the nature of the internet. You believe what you want to believe. There are many people who claim to be family members or people involved in cases that post here often. Many of them are considered to be part of our little family. However, I should point out that this is not the first time we've heard of the Horace McKenna theory here: see this thread.

Also, you can get a cold at any time of the year.

[aussie rules]

Originally Posted by nohwheregirl

Well, you don't. That's the nature of the internet. You believe what you want to believe. There are many people who claim to be family members or people involved in cases that post here often. Many of them are considered to be part of our little family. However, I should point out that this is not the first time we've heard of the Horace McKenna theory here: see this thread.

Also, you can get a cold at any time of the year.

hola- no I am the real deal I am crystal spencers only brother. I am going to let you in on some of crystals secrets- she was the best damn fighter I have ever witnessed or fought in my life(that includes military) She wanted to be a star mor than anything in the world . she would get the stars map's of stars homes and the go and knock on their doors , or go thru their garbage-she was unbelievably good looking- So is my other sister Julie-I was living in Florida at the time of her death- Julie called me and asked 'how do we get to the Hollywood sign? we are going to put Crystals ashes on it"I told them because I have been up there many times before-they won't let you get up there any longer. Julie told me later on that they could only get around 500 feet below the Hollywood sign ,but when mom opened the urn and started pouring the ashes- right then a big gust of wind came along and literally flew the ashes up to the sign. I asked my mom about that later-years later actually and she said"that is exaclaty what happened and it gave me golf ball size goose bumps."The lady who played peg bundy on married with children was also at the ceremony( I don't know her Name)I guess she was a friend of my sister s. I personall y likethank anton kline and Det.Krafttheir workon this matter. I have not met either one of them but I had talked to both of them on the phone in 1988 one more thing she didnt make it to 30 but she packed more into life than most people and she was incredibly wise in many ways more so than anyone I have ever met. thank you. Crystals brother

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by aussie rules

hola- no I am the real deal I am crystal spencers only brother. I am going to let you in on some of crystals secrets- she was the best damn fighter I have ever witnessed or fought in my life(that includes military) She wanted to be a star mor than anything in the world . she would get the stars map's of stars homes and the go and knock on their doors , or go thru their garbage-she was unbelievably good looking- So is my other sister Julie-I was living in Florida at the time of her death- Julie called me and asked 'how do we get to the Hollywood sign? we are going to put Crystals ashes on it"I told them because I have been up there many times before-they won't let you get up there any longer. Julie told me later on that they could only get around 500 feet below the Hollywood sign ,but when mom opened the urn and started pouring the ashes- right then a big gust of wind came along and literally flew the ashes up to the sign. I asked my mom about that later-years later actually and she said"that is exaclaty what happened and it gave me golf ball size goose bumps."The lady who played peg bundy on married with children was also at the ceremony( I don't know her Name)I guess she was a friend of my sister s. I personall y likethank anton kline and Det.Krafttheir workon this matter. I have not met either one of them but I had talked to both of them on the phone in 1988 one more thing she didnt make it to 30 but she packed more into life than most people and she was incredibly wise in many ways more so than anyone I have ever met. thank you. Crystals brother

nice to have you posting here, aussie rules

Katey Segal played Peg Bundy on married with children

[conservativejoe]

not sure of the lay out of her house/apartment but if it was late in the evening and May, it would be hot enough in the hollywood area to leave a window or patio/balcony door open. if this was her usual routine someone may have simply came inside and got her.

[klavkhalash]

I believe that I have come to a correct conclusion that has not been considered as of yet.

She was quitting heroin. that explains why she was sick in May. That explains the screams, quitting heroin is very painful.

She probably wanted to quit before going to Japan.


Heroin is out of your system in 2-5 days, and the withdrawals last a solid 3 days at least. they also don't start for about 24 hours, usually.

By the time her withdrawals were the worst, she wouldn't have had any signs of heroin in her sytem.

This drug is common among women of her profession, from what I've heard.

The withdrawals usually aren't, but they could be fatal. They will also make you feel like suicide is a good idea.

What do you think?

[Mastermind]

I believe that I have come to a correct conclusion that has not been considered as of yet.

She was quitting heroin. that explains why she was sick in May. That explains the screams, quitting heroin is very painful.

She probably wanted to quit before going to Japan.


Heroin is out of your system in 2-5 days, and the withdrawals last a solid 3 days at least. they also don't start for about 24 hours, usually.

By the time her withdrawals were the worst, she wouldn't have had any signs of heroin in her sytem.

This drug is common among women of her profession, from what I've heard.

The withdrawals usually aren't, but they could be fatal. They will also make you feel like suicide is a good idea.

What do you think?

Wouldn't she have needle tracks on her arms?

I know her body was badly decomposed, but wouldn;t her boyfriend have noticed the needle tracks and brought up heroin addiction to the authorities.

No heroin paraphenelia was found at the scene.

You theory is not bad, it just that according to the case as it is, there has been no evidence that Crystal ever used any type of illegal narcotic.