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Old 07-18-2003, 08:23 PM   #1
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Man, I hate Pat Robertson. Let's all pray for his retirement.

Robertson Calls for Justices' Retirement

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VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson urged his nationwide audience Monday to pray for God to remove three justices from the Supreme Court so they could be replaced by conservatives.

"We ask for miracles in regard to the Supreme Court," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "The 700 Club."

Robertson has launched a 21-day "prayer offensive" directed at the Supreme Court in the wake of its 6-3 June vote that decriminalized sodomy. Robertson said in a letter on the CBN Web site that the ruling "has opened the door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest."

The same letter targets three justices in particular: "One justice is 83-years-old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?"

Judging from the descriptions, Robertson was referring to Justice John Paul Stevens, who was born in 1920, and Justice Ruth Bader, who had colon cancer surgery in 1999. The identity of the third justice was unclear.
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Pat Robertson on the Supreme Court: "Time for a Change"

By Pat Robertson

VIRGINIA BEACH, VA — "We the People" — the opening words of the U.S. Constitution. The framer’s of the constitution left no doubt in the Preamble that the Constitution was intended to belong to the people. The people were supposed to be the vigilant guardians of their own liberties. That’s the way our system was created.

But, over the years the Supreme Court has radically undermined this careful placement of power by making itself the ultimate arbiter and source of what the Constitution provides and what it does not.

In 1819, a frustrated Thomas Jefferson concluded that the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, has become a "mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist, and shape into any form they please."

For decades, the Supreme Court has contorted the Constitution to mean that the people may not decide for themselves through their duly elected officials matters of moral and social importance.

This troubling pattern is well documented. For more that half a century the Supreme Court has acted as a "super legislature" — no longer interpreting the Constitution, but rather writing and proclaiming its own law.

Consider what the Supreme Court has done since the early 1960’s: prayer and the Bible removed from public schools and the Ten Commandments banned from schools and public places. Relying on what was called a penumbra to the 14th Amendment granting a right of privacy not found in the Constitution, the Court declared abortion a constitutional right while ignoring the constitutional rights of the more than 43-million unborn children who have been slaughtered. And now, utilizing the same right of privacy that enshrined abortion, the Supreme Court has proclaimed same-sex sodomy a "constitutional right."

A growing number of Americans see the Supreme Court for what it truly is. After all, no matter how much a legislature may debate, negotiate, compromise, and discuss a significant social issue, a mere five-member unelected majority of the Supreme Court is always free to impose what it thinks is really best for the American people.

This is not a free people at work, but rather a judicial oligarchy of which Jefferson warned.

As Jefferson wrote in 1820, "to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy… The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal…"

The idea of a "living Constitution" —- whose heart and breath ends up being nothing more than the ideological predilections of the Supreme Court’s sitting members — is contrary to fundamental principles of the Rule of Law. As Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story wrote in 1833, the Constitution is "to have a fixed, uniform, permanent construction. It should be, so far at least as human infirmity will allow, not dependent upon the passions or parties of particular times, but the same yesterday, today and forever."

And consider the words of Abraham Lincoln at his First Inaugural Address in 1861: "At the same time, the candid citizen must confess that if the policy of the government, upon vital questions, affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court…the people will have ceased to be their own rulers having, to that extent, practically resigned their government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."

Americans are a patient and a law-abiding people. But for too long we have watched as the Justices on the nation’s highest court have legislated from the bench — taken what was to be our nation’s roadmap for the people — the U.S. Constitution — and turned it on its head. It is time for a change. And thousands of Americans agree. The time has come for several Justices to retire and I am fervently praying to that end.

Pat Robertson is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Christian Broadcasting Network, headquartered in Virginia Beach, VA.
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I don't really think that God wants people to pray asking for three Supreme Court Justices to retire. I bet he'd want people praying for world peace or for people who are ill. Does Robertson want these Justices to get some sort of disease so they are no longer able to fufill their duties? It seems to me that Robertson would like to has one of these Justices become ill or hurt in someway because it could cause homosexual marriages to be outlawed as well as making sodomy illegal.
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It's really funny how Pat rags on the Supreme Court for the very same things he would do himself in his fundamentalist theocracy.
This isn't the only time he's issued veiled death threats toward Supreme Court justices in the guise of prayer.
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This is the same Pat Robertson who, with Jerry Falwell, stated that 9/11 was God's punishment to us for the existence of gays, the ACLU, and single mothers...

From The 700 Club, Thursday, September 13, 2001:

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Jerry Falwell: What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

Pat Robertson: Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population.

Falwell: The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen.

Robertson: I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system.

Falwell: Pat, did you notice yesterday that the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, the People for the American Way, NOW, etc., were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress, as they went out on the steps and and called out to God in prayer and sang 'God bless America' and said, let the ACLU be hanged. In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time, calling on God.
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I'm sure ol' Pat wasn't crying too much for America's loss when he realized how much loot he was making after 9/11. He and Falwell only apologize for their mouthing off when it's expedient for them.
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Prying for there deaths?

All we are praying for is for God to remove them, I would like that to be by them stepping down, but who am I to tell God in what way to remove them, its all up to him,

& you think god wouldn’t want people that are trying to destroy his nation to step down? Then you do not know the god of Abraham, A god who is clear about justice, who has had entire nations destroyed because they worship evil,

So Why Would He Side With People who Do Not Even Believe In Him, Who Sin Agenst Him, Who Will Not Even Accept Forgiveness For What They Have Done

For Just One Small Quote From One Of You "Living in a land where SEX and HORROR are the new gods!"

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But why do you care if sodomy is legal? How does somebody ****ing someone else in the ass negatively affect the life of UZI4U? Unless, of course, you're in the room with them. It's probably hard to sleep with the constant sound of sodomy in your ear.
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Prying for there deaths?

All we are praying for is for God to remove them, I would like that to be by them stepping down, but who am I to tell God in what way to remove them, its all up to him,

& you think god wouldn’t want people that are trying to destroy his nation to step down? Then you do not know the god of Abraham, A god who is clear about justice, who has had entire nations destroyed because they worship evil,

So Why Would He Side With People who Do Not Even Believe In Him, Who Sin Agenst Him, Who Will Not Even Accept Forgiveness For What They Have Done

For Just One Small Quote From One Of You "Living in a land where SEX and HORROR are the new gods!"

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About my siggy, are you familiar with the song I am quoting?

Why do you think you are in the position to JUDGE where God is in my life??

Why do you find more inspiration from the Spanish Inquisition than from Martin Luther King??

Why do I read between the lines and get the picture you would like *justice* to be done on our nation's Supreme Court?
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Two hours later, UZI4U hasn't answered Captain Ablairica's or my questions. Maybe he just didn't see our posts, so I'll just give this thread a nice "bump" so he notices.
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"About my siggy, are you familiar with the song I am quoting?":
no I am not, but if you like a song like that, what is the deference?

"Why do you think you are in the position to JUDGE where God is in my life??":
not trying to JUDGE I'm trying to snap you out of your brainwashing

"Why do you find more inspiration from the Spanish Inquisition than from Martin Luther King??":
I don’t like the Spanish Inquisition, the was a bunch of crapasstic snots, & Martin Luther King? Don’t have a problem with him

"Why do I read between the lines and get the picture you would like *justice* to be done on our nation's Supreme Court?":
what are you hallucinating about?
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Because it will degrade society, & bring the wrath of God on America, if for no other reason, the fact that no society that has approved homosexuality has lasted a century after that, unlike you, I would like to see America last more then 300 years
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"About my siggy, are you familiar with the song I am quoting?":
no I am not, but if you like a song like that, what is the deference?

"Why do you think you are in the position to JUDGE where God is in my life??":
not trying to JUDGE I'm trying to snap you out of your brainwashing

"Why do you find more inspiration from the Spanish Inquisition than from Martin Luther King??":
I don’t like the Spanish Inquisition, the was a bunch of crapasstic snots, & Martin Luther King? Don’t have a problem with him

"Why do I read between the lines and get the picture you would like *justice* to be done on our nation's Supreme Court?":
what are you hallucinating about?


What do you think the lyric under my avatar means? (Btw, why can't you spell properly?) Is there no difference between liking a song and finding a quote useful? Is God gonna punish me for quoting a song lyric?

"Crapasstic snots"?? Is that because they used weapons of FEAR, SURPRISE, AND A FANATICAL DEVOTION TO THE POPE--or is it because they were *gasp* "Beaners"??

No, you don't have a problem with MLK--prolly other than the fact that he stood for peace and non-violence.

I am hallucinating the fact that underneath your assertions that you don't wish death on the heads of the Supreme Court Justices, you are hinting that God makes that call. After all, those guys pissed you off by supporting the privacy rights of turd-burglars. That really sticks in the craw of the vengeful God we worship.

"Snap me out of my brainwashing"--are you duly qualified in techniques of cultic de-programming?

And also, WHERE IN THE WORLD DO YOU GET THIS IDEA THAT I AM A COMMUNIST?? I thought we've had nothing to fear from the Soviet Evil Empire for the past 14 years. I like to think of myself as capitalist as the next guy, I like my money. Gee, ME a commie!! It's like Senator Joe McCarthy has risen from the grave.
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