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Crimson and Clover · 04-08-2003, 01:18 PM

http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/...&parent_id=258

WMD 'smoking gun' turns out to be pesticide

In the latest false alarm for evidence that would help justify the US-led invasion of Iraq, a military officer announced that pesticide, not deadly sarin gas, was found at a chemical facility south of Baghdad

Earlier, a spokesman for the US army's 3rd Infantry Division, Major Ross Coffman, told journalists at Baghdad's airport that the site "could be a smoking gun".

"We are talking about finding a site of possible weapons of mass destruction," he said.

But Captain Adam Mastrianni, told AFP that initial tests disproved the preliminary results and established that pesticide was in fact the substance involved.

Mastrianni said: "They thought it was a nerve agent. That's what it tested. But it is pesticide."

It was not the first time chemical weapons were thought to have been discovered.

On March 23, Fox News and the Jerusalem Post reported a “huge” chemical weapons factory near the Iraqi city of Najaf.

Yet US commanders, ordering troops to shed protective suits, now seem unconcerned about a much-anticipated chemical, biological, or nuclear attack from Iraqi forces.

"It's great to have them off," Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla, commander of the 1st Marines Battalion, said after receiving an order from his superiors.

"They made an assessment and they determined there was not a
serious threat right now," he said.

There was little talk of the “smoking gun” at the US command headquarters in Qatar. "We don't have any extraordinary finds at this point while we're still looking," said spokesman US Brigadier General Vincent Brooks at a news conference.

The Bush administration has repeatedly claimed it was justified in bypassing the UN Security Council and launching an invasion of Iraq, because of the threat posed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

But it is ironic, said Al Jazeera analyst Mohammed Ja’afar that both UN inspectors, and US-led troops, despite their deep thrust into the country, have not found any nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has also vehemently denied he possessed such weapons.--- Al Jazeera with agency inputs

laceyinthesky · 04-08-2003, 02:49 PM

That's too funny

Jem · 04-08-2003, 05:46 PM

That is too funny.

Weren't some people on these boards saying WHAT IF there were no weapons of mass destruction found? What if these "weapons" that the U.S.A. is looking for don't even exist? They would look so foolish. Attacking the country of Iraq and for what? For nothing.

Fleet · 04-08-2003, 10:04 PM

It's those who claim "there's no evidence that Iraq has WMD" who will look foolish.
There have been found 30 missiles with chemical weapons in their tips. Ready to fire. That is Weapons of Mass Destruction!
As I said, it is very, very unlikely that there are no WMD in Iraq. Even Saddam admitted to having (and using) biological weapons.
I think most of these are stored underground. Have patience; they will be found.
"Atacking Iraq for nothing?" When Iraqi citizens ask the troops, "What took you so long," I would hardly call that for nothing. When a dictator is likely to have ties with al Qaeda, I would not call that "for nothing." When this same dictator has killed thousands of Iraqis, that is not "for nothing." When a terroist training facility was found, that is not "for nothing" (see link below)
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecov...003/4/6/144706

Kitt · 04-08-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fleet
It's those who claim "there's no evidence that Iraq has WMD" who will look foolish.

If at some time WMD's turn up then that's wnen they turn up. In the mean time Bush and company and the military have made false or dishonest claims or jumped the gun over and over. Each time the claims are made you do your version of the Mexican hat dance. A day or two later the claims turn out to be false so you calm down for about one minute. I've been follwing the evidence or lack of it. I've not said that they don't have them, I've said that the eviidence has not shown that they have them. We invaded Iraq resulting in all of the usual horrors of war on what were and still are false claims. Even if WMD's eventually show up it doesn't mean we had to ravage the country and its population to find them.

Fleet · 04-09-2003, 12:04 AM

20 missiles with chemical warheads found...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003Apr7.html

How else can we find these WMD without invading (and removing Saddam)? Go through the U.N.? Yeah, that woked out great when we tried that a few months ago.

theshark8777 · 04-09-2003, 11:09 AM

Yeah if there's one news agency I'd believe it's definitely Al-Jazeera...

After all, they did say they thought it could be pesticides when they found it...

Kitt · 04-09-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Fleet
How else can we find these WMD without invading (and removing Saddam)? Go through the U.N.? Yeah, that woked out great when we tried that a few months ago.

As a matter of fact it was working just fine. And they didn't have to kill or cripple anyone to find them.

theshark8777 · 04-09-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kitt
As a matter of fact it was working just fine. And they didn't have to kill or cripple anyone to find them.

Yeah right...

Kitt · 04-09-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by theshark8777

Yeah right...

"Is that your final answer?" If so I think you will not win the million dollars. Questions actually require an answer rather than a schoolyard sneer.

theshark8777 · 04-09-2003, 09:01 PM

Yeah thats my final answer. Inspections were not working. They had missles that violated the resolution and a drone that was illeagal. Hans Blix didn't even report the drone even though he found it, so obviously inspections didn't work.

Fleet · 04-09-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Kitt
As a matter of fact it was working just fine. And they didn't have to kill or cripple anyone to find them.

When two Iraqi officials (whose phone call was intercepted) were laughing as to how easy it was to fool the inspectors, I don't think it was working "just fine." Again, all the Iraqi military had to do was move the weapons around, or store them in underground bunkers which the inspectors would have no idea they were there. And, if we didn't go in there, Saddam would still be killing and crippling (and torturing) Iraqis.

Kitt · 04-09-2003, 09:18 PM

Every other accusation and rumor has fallen through. This last one may also fall through.

The inspectors were assigned to a job. They had their legs cut out from them. Bush and company never wanted inspections to begin with, they wanted war. The inspections were working but it didn't matter to Powell and Bush. They told lie after lie in a campaign to undermine the process.

Powell sat in front of the security council and told them and the world about a document regarding biological weapons in Iraq. That turned out to be a fraud. Powell knew the document was a fraud as he was speaking.

Bush told the American people in his State of the Union Adress about nuclear ingredients sold to Iraq from Nigeria. That Was a lie and Bush knew that as he was saying it.

Kitt · 04-09-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Fleet

When two Iraqi officials (whose phone call was intercepted) were laughing as to how easy it was to fool the inspectors, I don't think it was working "just fine." Again, all the Iraqi military had to do was move the weapons around, or store them in underground bunkers which the inspectors would have no idea they were there. And, if we didn't go in there, Saddam would still be killing and crippling (and torturing) Iraqis.

BS. Powell told that rediculous story complete with cartoon pictures of trucks supposedly moving stuff around. The Inspections team gave us the real story which proved that Powell was, once again, making **** up. His story was bunk, fabricated, nonsense, untrue, lies and garbage.

Fleet · 04-09-2003, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Kitt
BS. Powell told that rediculous story complete with cartoon pictures of trucks supposedly moving stuff around. The Inspections team gave us the real story which proved that Powell was, once again, making **** up. His story was bunk, fabricated, nonsense, untrue, lies and garbage.

Then why would those two (on the phone) say it was easy to fool the inspectors? As I said, there are also underground storage areas. Why you continue to defend the Iraqi gov't is beyond me. (Former gov't, that is.)

04-08-2003, 01:18 PM	#1
Crimson and Clover Forum Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 09, 2002 Location: NC Posts: 17,319	WMD 'smoking gun' turns out to be pesticide http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/...&parent_id=258 WMD 'smoking gun' turns out to be pesticide In the latest false alarm for evidence that would help justify the US-led invasion of Iraq, a military officer announced that pesticide, not deadly sarin gas, was found at a chemical facility south of Baghdad Earlier, a spokesman for the US army's 3rd Infantry Division, Major Ross Coffman, told journalists at Baghdad's airport that the site "could be a smoking gun". "We are talking about finding a site of possible weapons of mass destruction," he said. But Captain Adam Mastrianni, told AFP that initial tests disproved the preliminary results and established that pesticide was in fact the substance involved. Mastrianni said: "They thought it was a nerve agent. That's what it tested. But it is pesticide." It was not the first time chemical weapons were thought to have been discovered. On March 23, Fox News and the Jerusalem Post reported a “huge” chemical weapons factory near the Iraqi city of Najaf. Yet US commanders, ordering troops to shed protective suits, now seem unconcerned about a much-anticipated chemical, biological, or nuclear attack from Iraqi forces. "It's great to have them off," Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla, commander of the 1st Marines Battalion, said after receiving an order from his superiors. "They made an assessment and they determined there was not a serious threat right now," he said. There was little talk of the “smoking gun” at the US command headquarters in Qatar. "We don't have any extraordinary finds at this point while we're still looking," said spokesman US Brigadier General Vincent Brooks at a news conference. The Bush administration has repeatedly claimed it was justified in bypassing the UN Security Council and launching an invasion of Iraq, because of the threat posed by Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. But it is ironic, said Al Jazeera analyst Mohammed Ja’afar that both UN inspectors, and US-led troops, despite their deep thrust into the country, have not found any nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has also vehemently denied he possessed such weapons.--- Al Jazeera with agency inputs __________________ Friend me: http://www.facebook.com/MaryLynnCall My Etsy shop http://www.etsy.com/shop/MotherMary You'll never find a sweeter combination As peace and love - Mishka

04-08-2003, 05:46 PM	#3
Jem Forum Regular Member Join Date: Feb 25, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 626	That is too funny. Weren't some people on these boards saying WHAT IF there were no weapons of mass destruction found? What if these "weapons" that the U.S.A. is looking for don't even exist? They would look so foolish. Attacking the country of Iraq and for what? For nothing. __________________ There is no such thing as revenge You will not give as good as you got There is no such thing as an eye for an eye If you think you're the giver, you're not There is no such thing as regret There is no point in placing the blame Hate destroys the one who hates And everyone suffers the same There is only love and respect To thine own self be true When you point the finger There are three fingers pointing back at you

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theshark8777 Moderator Hats for Bats Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,259	Yeah if there's one news agency I'd believe it's definitely Al-Jazeera... After all, they did say they thought it could be pesticides when they found it... __________________ Who ate all the pecan Sandies??

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04-08-2003, 02:49 PM	#2
laceyinthesky Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 13, 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,905	That's too funny

04-08-2003, 10:04 PM	#4
Fleet Forum Veteran Mansions, limousines & H-ween Join Date: Jan 06, 2002 Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, California Posts: 14,391	It's those who claim "there's no evidence that Iraq has WMD" who will look foolish. There have been found 30 missiles with chemical weapons in their tips. Ready to fire. That is Weapons of Mass Destruction! As I said, it is very, very unlikely that there are no WMD in Iraq. Even Saddam admitted to having (and using) biological weapons. I think most of these are stored underground. Have patience; they will be found. "Atacking Iraq for nothing?" When Iraqi citizens ask the troops, "What took you so long," I would hardly call that for nothing. When a dictator is likely to have ties with al Qaeda, I would not call that "for nothing." When this same dictator has killed thousands of Iraqis, that is not "for nothing." When a terroist training facility was found, that is not "for nothing" (see link below) http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecov...003/4/6/144706

04-09-2003, 12:04 AM	#6
Fleet Forum Veteran Mansions, limousines & H-ween Join Date: Jan 06, 2002 Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, California Posts: 14,391	20 missiles with chemical warheads found... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003Apr7.html How else can we find these WMD without invading (and removing Saddam)? Go through the U.N.? Yeah, that woked out great when we tried that a few months ago.

04-09-2003, 09:01 PM	#11
theshark8777 Moderator Hats for Bats Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,259	Yeah thats my final answer. Inspections were not working. They had missles that violated the resolution and a drone that was illeagal. Hans Blix didn't even report the drone even though he found it, so obviously inspections didn't work.

04-09-2003, 09:18 PM	#13
Kitt Senior Member James Dean Join Date: Aug 16, 2001 Location: California Dreamin' Posts: 6,098	Every other accusation and rumor has fallen through. This last one may also fall through. The inspectors were assigned to a job. They had their legs cut out from them. Bush and company never wanted inspections to begin with, they wanted war. The inspections were working but it didn't matter to Powell and Bush. They told lie after lie in a campaign to undermine the process. Powell sat in front of the security council and told them and the world about a document regarding biological weapons in Iraq. That turned out to be a fraud. Powell knew the document was a fraud as he was speaking. Bush told the American people in his State of the Union Adress about nuclear ingredients sold to Iraq from Nigeria. That Was a lie and Bush knew that as he was saying it.