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Old 01-24-2004, 06:30 PM   #16
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I didn't watch the final season that much when it was first aired nor in reruns, so I don't remember Edna leaving Laverne's pop. Could you elaborate on this - give the reason why she left? Was it something they built up to, or was it just an abrupt departure?

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That's a WaCKY departure for Edna to run off with another man.
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:22 PM   #17
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Edna was last seen during the 1980-1981 season (first year in California). She was only referred to in the next two seasons. In the last season, they air episodes out of order as Laverne arranges a blind date for her father in one episode and a few weeks later Frank tells Laverne that Edna left him!

As Betty Garrett had left the series, they should have just killed Edna off instead of they way they wrote the character out. It didn't seem right.
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It is obvious though that Shirley marrying and becoming pregnant was not necessarily meant to serve as a departure for Cindy Williams. The reason I say this is because in Cindy's last episode, the one in which Laverne and Shirley agree to stay in a department store window and due to hypnosis begin acting like chickens, it is indicated that Shirley is staying around. The episode clearly states that while Shirley is married, due to her husband Walter being shipped overseas, she would continue to live with Laverne for a year. I think the situation with Cindy and the producers resulted in this scenario changing suddenly and Shirley joining her husband overseas.
Cindy Williams was pregnant in real life not her character which meant the producers had to do something thus Shirley joining her husband overseas and Cindy leaving the show.
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Cindy Williams was pregnant in real life not her character.



I don't think I ever saw the last season. Which is why I'm glad L&S is coming to Lifetime in March.
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Cindy Williams was pregnant in real life not her character which meant the producers had to do something thus Shirley joining her husband overseas and Cindy leaving the show.



I have to defend my statement in saying that while Cindy was pregnant in real life, her character on the show was as well. If some station ever airs the series again, you will see this to be true.
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I have to defend my statement in saying that while Cindy was pregnant in real life, her character on the show was as well. If some station ever airs the series again, you will see this to be true.



Well i will find out in 2004 since L&S is coming to Lifetime. With two episodes a day, i would say the last season will be on around May
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I have just learned something through the TVTOME site that Cindy appeared in the first 2 episodes of the last season. The first one was the episode where she married Walter Meeny,the second one,the last one that Cindy was in was the episode where they are demonstrating the house of the future at the department store.It goes into further detail about Shirley being a roommate for a year because of Walter going into the military. Then in the 3rd episode,that was when Laverne finds out that Shirley had left a note saying that she was going overseas to be with Walter.

I guess I must have missed the part about Shirley being pregnant,it has been quite a while since I have watched Laverne and Shirley.I know of the episode where they are demonstrating the house of the future. Thanks for clarifying in detail.
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When Cindy became pregnant in real life, the original plan was to have Shirley become pregnant as well and continue living with Laverne while her husband was overseas. That's why Shirley announces she's pregnant at the end of her last episode (the one where they live in the house of the future). The producers knew that the show was running out of gas and hoped that the baby would give them some material for new storylines.

But Cindy and the producers had a disagreement over her schedule and her compensation -- the producers felt that if Cindy was going to work less, then she should be paid less. Cindy disagreed, and wound up leaving abruptly after filming the second episode of the 82-83 season. That's why Shirley was quickly written out of the show -- she doesn't even appear in the episode where Shirley's departure is explained.
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When Cindy became pregnant in real life, the original plan was to have Shirley become pregnant as well and continue living with Laverne while her husband was overseas. That's why Shirley announces she's pregnant at the end of her last episode (the one where they live in the house of the future). The producers knew that the show was running out of gas and hoped that the baby would give them some material for new storylines.

But Cindy and the producers had a disagreement over her schedule and her compensation -- the producers felt that if Cindy was going to work less, then she should be paid less. Cindy disagreed, and wound up leaving abruptly after filming the second episode of the 82-83 season. That's why Shirley was quickly written out of the show -- she doesn't even appear in the episode where Shirley's departure is explained.




Cindy said she didn;t want more money, she just wanted her hours in writing and she said the producers refused. Then she said the producers stated she couldn't do the job because she was pregnant.
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Cindy said she didn;t want more money, she just wanted her hours in writing and she said the producers refused. Then she said the producers stated she couldn't do the job because she was pregnant.

Cindy didn't ask for more money -- the producers wanted to reduce her salary in exchange for reducing her working hours. She wanted to make the same amount of money she was making before.
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Cindy didn't ask for more money -- the producers wanted to reduce her salary in exchange for reducing her working hours. She wanted to make the same amount of money she was making before.



Well that's what Cindy said in a 1982 TV Guide Interview She said she did not want more money.
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Well that's what Cindy said in a 1982 TV Guide Interview She said she did not want more money.

No, she didn't want more money, but she didn't want to take a salary cut, either, and that's what Garry Marshall wanted her to do in exchange for the reduced schedule. At least that was what was being reported in the press at the time. But ultimately, only the parties involved know what really happened.
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I've seen some eps from the last season, and they're not really bad. I'm not a big fan of the California eps, so of course I'm not going to love the last season...it will be interesting to see again though...
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I've seen some eps from the last season, and they're not really bad. I'm not a big fan of the California eps, so of course I'm not going to love the last season...it will be interesting to see again though...


The one with Carrie Fisher wasn't bad, but Shirley leaving the show was the final nail in the coffin. Laverne alone is like the sound of one hand clapping.
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Last season stunk, don't even bother.

Lenny was gone, Shirley was gone... no magic left. I never watch those episodes.
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