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White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 09:43 PM

I got into a discussion (read: big, huge screaming fight) over Drunk Driving with my friends because they felt my take on it was too harsh.

I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years.

If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that.

It's kinda surprising that I'm so anti-war, yet so pro-harsher punishments.

White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 09:43 PM

By the way, what's your view?

-*Leah*- · 03-03-2003, 09:50 PM

I dunno if agree that if people just get caught that they should get their licence taken away for 5 years, but I do believe that they should HAVE to stay in jain for 6 months, but I do agree with you that if they have a wreck and kill someone, they SHOULD DEFINATLEY get the maximum punishment, whether it be life in prison, or death by injection. I agree, nobody should EVER drive drunk... EVER.

AnaheimPMWitch · 03-03-2003, 10:09 PM

WD
I TOTALLY agree with you My take on it if YOU'VE been drinking YOU shouldnt be driving
friends dont let friends drive drunk I know is cliche' but its true

White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 10:11 PM

You know what pisses me off? When people get off for drunk driving with no punishment.

After DARE, SADDD (or whatever they are now), MADD, and every single other program known to mankind, people still have the stupidity to drink and drive. Even if you have zoned out for years, you still hear something in the back of your head saying, "NO." Listen to the voice people, you're not schizophrenic, it's Jiminy Cricket.

Hollow · 03-03-2003, 10:27 PM

it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

C Doody · 03-03-2003, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

Im sure no one means to kill anyone. But i agree with the above posts, If you do it in the first place, Its your fault. Personally if i drank and drove (Which i dont do either actually

) And accidently hit and killed someone, I Wouldnt do it again anyway, Out of pure Guilt.

Nanny Fine · 03-03-2003, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

Oh yes it can be. Vehicular manslaughter, Vehicular Manslaughter without Intent...

Fleet · 03-04-2003, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Daisy
By the way, what's your view?

I agree. The laws should be more strict.
A lot of drunk drivers (and potential drunk drivers) know that a first offense will not be too hard on them. So they take a chance and possibly kill someone. When you are behind the wheel, you are responsible for your actions.

C Doody · 03-04-2003, 12:45 AM

Actually guys. I Wasnt going to mention this, But i think its pretty appropriate for this topic.

I was once almost killed by a drunk driver. When i was 4 years old i was riding in A Jeep with my Mom and Dad. Their were only 2 seats, So i sat in the middle of them. And their were a few drunk people in the car behind us. Anyway, They hit us, And Both my Mom and i went flying out of the jeep, And The jeep even rolled over on my Dad after he fell out. We still have alot of pictures from after it too. My Face was covered in blood, Considering i was only 4 Years old i am very lucky i made it. I Dont remember it at all, But i do remember being at my Grampy and Grammys house after it crying hard.

So the fact is, Drunk Driving is something i really hate. I was lucky enough to survive it, But think about all the Kids that may not have been so lucky. Its really sad that they have to lose Their entire future and miss out on their wedding, graduation and opther stuff like that. All so a few guys can go out and have a good time...Than drive home. Its really really sad.

Chocoholic · 03-04-2003, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Daisy

I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years.

If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that.

I totally agree! I'm tired of people not being forced to take responsability for their actions. If you drive under the influence of alcohol or drugs, you should pay the price.

I also feel that people who talk on their cellphones and cause an accident that kills someone should also be charged with murder.

*PinkLady* · 03-04-2003, 05:31 PM

If you didn't intend to kill someone while drunk driving, you still intended to engage in behaviors that you knew were destructive and dangerous. You know you can get in trouble, but you do it regardless. To me, that makes it murder.

Jem · 03-04-2003, 05:35 PM

Maybe people who drive drunk and kill someone should get the death penalty. How different is it than people who shoot or stab people to death and get the death penalty? They're still taking a person's life, no matter what.

Rhiannon · 03-04-2003, 05:36 PM

I hate people who drive drunk...I think police need to raise the penalty for it if you are caught. I have been lucky, I don't know anyone killed by a drunk driver.

DetectiveGriffin · 03-04-2003, 05:56 PM

I believe just about everything a person does is on purpose.
You cannot accidentally drunk drive and accidentally kill someone - people know before they take that first drink that they will be impaired. A lot of folks pretend they won't.
I hear that kind of thing from teenagers a lot, "I'll drive home drunk and let God decide."

Since the bible repeatedly says things like, "do not harm a single one of my children, for their angels have constant access to my Father", I can only imagine God is pretty horrified by that line of thinking.

I think people know the risk they are taking and just choose to ignore it, out of selfishness and stupidity.

03-03-2003, 09:43 PM	#1
White_Daisy Senior Member blank Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 2,376	Drunk Driving I got into a discussion (read: big, huge screaming fight) over Drunk Driving with my friends because they felt my take on it was too harsh. I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years. If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that. It's kinda surprising that I'm so anti-war, yet so pro-harsher punishments. __________________ <marquee>I love you, Potsie Webber</marquee> <center> "H14...My favorite letter, my favorite number"</center> <center>http://www.obeygiant.com/stickers/bo...happy-days.gif</center> <center>They Call it Potsie Love</center> <center>http://www.tvlinksonline.com/boards/...&postid=549343</center> <center>Warren "Potsie" Webber</center> <center> To me, Fonzie is what everyone wants to be, Richie is kind of what everyone wants her son to be. And Potsie, I think, is what everyone is - Anson Williams </center>

03-03-2003, 09:50 PM	#3
-Leah- Forum Veteran Back for More Join Date: Jan 15, 2003 Posts: 10,547	I dunno if agree that if people just get caught that they should get their licence taken away for 5 years, but I do believe that they should HAVE to stay in jain for 6 months, but I do agree with you that if they have a wreck and kill someone, they SHOULD DEFINATLEY get the maximum punishment, whether it be life in prison, or death by injection. I agree, nobody should EVER drive drunk... EVER. __________________ i'm obsessive when just one thought of you comes up i'm aggressive just one thought of closing up you got me stressing, incessantly pressing the issue cause every moment gone you know I miss you :::::::::::::::::::::::::: this time please someone come and rescue me cause you on my mind it's got me losing it

03-03-2003, 10:09 PM	#4
AnaheimPMWitch Senior Member AKA CaitlinMoore2002 Join Date: May 08, 2002 Location: in the Las Vegas Crime Lab hangin with Nick and Sara Posts: 4,966	WD I TOTALLY agree with you My take on it if YOU'VE been drinking YOU shouldnt be driving friends dont let friends drive drunk I know is cliche' but its true __________________ "We're not dating , We just go to Movies"-Sara Sidle CSI "Now all I can think about is someone took my Doll and Now I want him back so I can Play with him HER Well you know what I mean"-Reggie on Becker "Just in case I'm not enough of a Freak already LETS add a Tiara"-Mia Princess Diaries

03-04-2003, 05:35 PM	#13
Jem Forum Regular Member Join Date: Feb 25, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 626	Maybe people who drive drunk and kill someone should get the death penalty. How different is it than people who shoot or stab people to death and get the death penalty? They're still taking a person's life, no matter what. __________________ There is no such thing as revenge You will not give as good as you got There is no such thing as an eye for an eye If you think you're the giver, you're not There is no such thing as regret There is no point in placing the blame Hate destroys the one who hates And everyone suffers the same There is only love and respect To thine own self be true When you point the finger There are three fingers pointing back at you

03-04-2003, 05:36 PM	#14
Rhiannon Forum Veteran oh, snap! Join Date: Jul 19, 2002 Location: middle of nowhere Posts: 11,033	I hate people who drive drunk...I think police need to raise the penalty for it if you are caught. I have been lucky, I don't know anyone killed by a drunk driver. __________________ Nothing better the feeling is so fine Simply put I saw your love stream flow

03-03-2003, 10:11 PM	#5
White_Daisy Senior Member blank Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 2,376	You know what pisses me off? When people get off for drunk driving with no punishment. After DARE, SADDD (or whatever they are now), MADD, and every single other program known to mankind, people still have the stupidity to drink and drive. Even if you have zoned out for years, you still hear something in the back of your head saying, "NO." Listen to the voice people, you're not schizophrenic, it's Jiminy Cricket.

03-03-2003, 10:27 PM	#6
Hollow Forum Celebrity Member Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,234	it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

03-04-2003, 12:45 AM	#10
C Doody Moderator Forum Legend Captain Juke N Jive Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Caribou, Maine Posts: 67,265	Actually guys. I Wasnt going to mention this, But i think its pretty appropriate for this topic. I was once almost killed by a drunk driver. When i was 4 years old i was riding in A Jeep with my Mom and Dad. Their were only 2 seats, So i sat in the middle of them. And their were a few drunk people in the car behind us. Anyway, They hit us, And Both my Mom and i went flying out of the jeep, And The jeep even rolled over on my Dad after he fell out. We still have alot of pictures from after it too. My Face was covered in blood, Considering i was only 4 Years old i am very lucky i made it. I Dont remember it at all, But i do remember being at my Grampy and Grammys house after it crying hard. So the fact is, Drunk Driving is something i really hate. I was lucky enough to survive it, But think about all the Kids that may not have been so lucky. Its really sad that they have to lose Their entire future and miss out on their wedding, graduation and opther stuff like that. All so a few guys can go out and have a good time...Than drive home. Its really really sad.

03-04-2003, 05:31 PM	#12
PinkLady Senior Member Member Join Date: Jun 04, 2002 Posts: 7,442	If you didn't intend to kill someone while drunk driving, you still intended to engage in behaviors that you knew were destructive and dangerous. You know you can get in trouble, but you do it regardless. To me, that makes it murder.

03-04-2003, 05:56 PM	#15
DetectiveGriffin Senior Member Sankontessou! Join Date: Aug 08, 2001 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 1,277	I believe just about everything a person does is on purpose. You cannot accidentally drunk drive and accidentally kill someone - people know before they take that first drink that they will be impaired. A lot of folks pretend they won't. I hear that kind of thing from teenagers a lot, "I'll drive home drunk and let God decide." Since the bible repeatedly says things like, "do not harm a single one of my children, for their angels have constant access to my Father", I can only imagine God is pretty horrified by that line of thinking. I think people know the risk they are taking and just choose to ignore it, out of selfishness and stupidity.

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