Celebs you wish had appeared on TZ

DarleneIllyria · 11-17-2002, 03:46 PM

Who are some of your fave celebs that you wished had appeared on TZ? I'm gonna say: DeForest Kelley, Carroll O'Connor, and Hugh Beaumont.

Barnabas1 · 11-17-2002, 08:43 PM

Barbara Billingsley and Lucille Ball.

dawsongirl · 11-19-2002, 07:09 PM

*Jeopardy think music plays*

Dododododododo...dododododododododododo

And the winner is.....

RICHARD DAWSON

I assume you all saw that coming.

Brian · 11-19-2002, 08:31 PM

I knew you were going to say that!

DarleneIllyria · 11-19-2002, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
*Jeopardy think music plays*

Dododododododo...dododododododododododo

And the winner is.....

RICHARD DAWSON

I assume you all saw that coming.

lol

Richard would've been great on TZ.

ficlopri · 07-18-2003, 06:37 PM

Really Jenny? As what would Dawson been good as on TZ? No no no! Bad choices. all of them except DeForrest Kelly. Maybe just maybe Adam West, he was on Outer Limits in a starship ep. He could have been good as Carter, the young crewman in Death Ship (an hour long TZ).

bry · 07-18-2003, 10:37 PM

that's a good question. never thought about it. now that i do, i can't think of anyone. the names given already are great choices.

ficlopri · 07-19-2003, 07:28 PM

Bry, don't be flattering. The only great choice mentioned so far is Adam West (though Deforrest Kelly is as much as a pretty good choice). All the others mentioned would have been lousy and laughable on TZ. LOUSY!

bry · 07-19-2003, 08:09 PM

i don't know, hugh beaumont makes an interesting idea. carrol o'connor too.
ozzie and harriet nelson were good on night gallery.

ficlopri · 07-20-2003, 03:04 AM

Hugh Beaumont was not a really leading actor (for those of you not interested in his last name). Some even admitted confusion between him and Fred MacMurray. He rarely had a leading role in a drama. I saw him guest star in fair number of dramas (like Mannix and Racket Squad) but his part was always kinda small. It seems almost pointless to wish him to guest star on TZ when he nearly definitely wouldn't have had a leading role, just a very thankless secondary part, if he had. I also honestly think to avoid confusion with TZ writer Charles Beaumont they would never have let Hugh guest star on the show in the first place. Actors who could and were entrusted with leading parts in serious shows are the ones really worth speculating on to have guest starred on TZ as they most likely would have been leads on dramatic TZ (the show had few comedies). People who only would only be supporting players in the Zone, if they appeared, appear too expendable to be speculating on. Well don't they? I've already covered most of the other choices in my other thread. Thank you for reading my posting.

ficlopri · 07-20-2003, 03:21 AM

Bry, Night Gallery was really usually cheesy and laughable. Except to kids watching. As a kid watching I was terrified by NG as an adult its funnier than Abbott and Costello. Ozzie and Harriet couldn't hurt that show. TZ was a great (usually) serious anthology. O+H would have only made TZ unintentionally laughable (unless it was one of the show's rare comedies) if only by their already famous-at-the-time comedic reputations. So ONLY if its a rare TZ comedy, and they had gotten the leads, and they most likely would have, then yes Ozzie and Harriet would have been good TZ guest stars.

TVgen62 · 07-20-2003, 03:37 AM

A few comments regarding some criticisms made by "ficlopri":

Carroll O'Connor - He appeared in an episode of The Outer Limits, so I don't see the implausibility of casting him in a Twilight Zone episode. (Also, I assume the wishlist is intended for those suggested to appear in the series during its original run. If this is the case, it easily predates his role of Archie Bunker.)

Lucille Ball - Since Carol Burnett appeared in TZ, once again, I don't see this as a stretch either.

Hugh Beaumont - I guess if we all followed your logic, any actor that played in supporting roles would never rise to a starring role. Gee, that's tough news for people like Penny Marshall, John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Billy Crystal...(shall I go on?) And what about Art Carney or Agnes Moorehead? They were in primarily supporting roles, yet they starred in a TZ eepisode.

Now, as for some of my suggestions (in no particular order):

Dick Van Dyke
Mary Tyler Moore
Robert Conrad
Donna Reed
James Darren
Barbara Eden

That's all I can think of at the moment.

ficlopri · 07-20-2003, 03:52 AM

Carol Burnett's ep was a pilot for a comedy series. And she wasn't that well known yet, so unlike Lucille Ball.

Agnes Moorehead was a rather big celebrity in movies back in 1960, so unlike Hugh Beaumont. She was in many great movies (including Citizen Kane). They were and felt privelaged to get her on TZ and that's why she had the lead in The Invaders. She rather often had the lead when she guest starred on other people's shows (outside of Bewitched).

O'Connor would have made the TZ ep he appeared laughable to many post 1971 audiences. I know several people who found his early and later dramatic roles absolutely hilarious just due to Archie.

ficlopri · 07-20-2003, 03:56 AM

Actually, I believe Moorehead was a regular on Bewitched from the start. And she was a real film celebrity prior to her guest starring on TZ.

ficlopri · 07-20-2003, 04:06 AM

There is a big difference between Lucille Ball and Ozzie and Harriet Nelson. Ball's physically blunt style comedy was much too harsh and ell known for her to guest star om TZ. Besides everyone would be expecting her to be called Lucy. The Nelsons on the other hand though also comic actors had a much more sensible style of verbal comedy making them better possible TZ guests in a TZ comedy. They were also less popular than she was. So they'd have been easier to accept on TZ.

11-17-2002, 03:46 PM	#1
DarleneIllyria Forum Veteran Gone Join Date: Oct 15, 2000 Posts: 19,030	Celebs you wish had appeared on TZ Who are some of your fave celebs that you wished had appeared on TZ? I'm gonna say: DeForest Kelley, Carroll O'Connor, and Hugh Beaumont.

11-17-2002, 08:43 PM	#2
Barnabas1 Senior Member Member Join Date: Dec 01, 2001 Posts: 4,591	Barbara Billingsley and Lucille Ball. __________________ My favorite shows :: I Love Lucy, Dark Shadows, Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters, Chico and the Man, and Get Smart. Formerly Babalu and agsfan

11-19-2002, 07:09 PM	#3
dawsongirl Forum Legend Member Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 52,918	My vote goes to... Jeopardy think music plays Dododododododo...dododododododododododo And the winner is..... RICHARD DAWSON I assume you all saw that coming.

07-18-2003, 10:37 PM	#7
bry Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jan 20, 2003 Location: n.c. Posts: 809	that's a good question. never thought about it. now that i do, i can't think of anyone. the names given already are great choices. __________________ that's Y-A-T-E-S.

07-20-2003, 03:37 AM	#12
TVgen62 Forum Regular My baby! <aawww> Join Date: Dec 02, 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 467	A few comments regarding some criticisms made by "ficlopri": Carroll O'Connor - He appeared in an episode of The Outer Limits, so I don't see the implausibility of casting him in a Twilight Zone episode. (Also, I assume the wishlist is intended for those suggested to appear in the series during its original run. If this is the case, it easily predates his role of Archie Bunker.) Lucille Ball - Since Carol Burnett appeared in TZ, once again, I don't see this as a stretch either. Hugh Beaumont - I guess if we all followed your logic, any actor that played in supporting roles would never rise to a starring role. Gee, that's tough news for people like Penny Marshall, John Travolta, Harrison Ford, Billy Crystal...(shall I go on?) And what about Art Carney or Agnes Moorehead? They were in primarily supporting roles, yet they starred in a TZ eepisode. Now, as for some of my suggestions (in no particular order): Dick Van Dyke Mary Tyler Moore Robert Conrad Donna Reed James Darren Barbara Eden That's all I can think of at the moment. __________________ *************************** "Consider yourself lucky that you are not, at this moment, an artichoke*!" -- Endora (to Darrin) Bewitched* - ep. #4, "Mother, Meet What's His Name"

11-19-2002, 08:31 PM	#4
Brian Forum Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,353	I knew you were going to say that!

07-18-2003, 06:37 PM	#6
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Really Jenny? As what would Dawson been good as on TZ? No no no! Bad choices. all of them except DeForrest Kelly. Maybe just maybe Adam West, he was on Outer Limits in a starship ep. He could have been good as Carter, the young crewman in Death Ship (an hour long TZ).

07-19-2003, 07:28 PM	#8
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Bry, don't be flattering. The only great choice mentioned so far is Adam West (though Deforrest Kelly is as much as a pretty good choice). All the others mentioned would have been lousy and laughable on TZ. LOUSY!

07-19-2003, 08:09 PM	#9
bry Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jan 20, 2003 Location: n.c. Posts: 809	i don't know, hugh beaumont makes an interesting idea. carrol o'connor too. ozzie and harriet nelson were good on night gallery.

07-20-2003, 03:04 AM	#10
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Hugh Beaumont was not a really leading actor (for those of you not interested in his last name). Some even admitted confusion between him and Fred MacMurray. He rarely had a leading role in a drama. I saw him guest star in fair number of dramas (like Mannix and Racket Squad) but his part was always kinda small. It seems almost pointless to wish him to guest star on TZ when he nearly definitely wouldn't have had a leading role, just a very thankless secondary part, if he had. I also honestly think to avoid confusion with TZ writer Charles Beaumont they would never have let Hugh guest star on the show in the first place. Actors who could and were entrusted with leading parts in serious shows are the ones really worth speculating on to have guest starred on TZ as they most likely would have been leads on dramatic TZ (the show had few comedies). People who only would only be supporting players in the Zone, if they appeared, appear too expendable to be speculating on. Well don't they? I've already covered most of the other choices in my other thread. Thank you for reading my posting.

07-20-2003, 03:21 AM	#11
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Bry, Night Gallery was really usually cheesy and laughable. Except to kids watching. As a kid watching I was terrified by NG as an adult its funnier than Abbott and Costello. Ozzie and Harriet couldn't hurt that show. TZ was a great (usually) serious anthology. O+H would have only made TZ unintentionally laughable (unless it was one of the show's rare comedies) if only by their already famous-at-the-time comedic reputations. So ONLY if its a rare TZ comedy, and they had gotten the leads, and they most likely would have, then yes Ozzie and Harriet would have been good TZ guest stars.

07-20-2003, 03:52 AM	#13
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Carol Burnett's ep was a pilot for a comedy series. And she wasn't that well known yet, so unlike Lucille Ball. Agnes Moorehead was a rather big celebrity in movies back in 1960, so unlike Hugh Beaumont. She was in many great movies (including Citizen Kane). They were and felt privelaged to get her on TZ and that's why she had the lead in The Invaders. She rather often had the lead when she guest starred on other people's shows (outside of Bewitched). O'Connor would have made the TZ ep he appeared laughable to many post 1971 audiences. I know several people who found his early and later dramatic roles absolutely hilarious just due to Archie.

07-20-2003, 03:56 AM	#14
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	Actually, I believe Moorehead was a regular on Bewitched from the start. And she was a real film celebrity prior to her guest starring on TZ.

07-20-2003, 04:06 AM	#15
ficlopri Forum Regular Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2001 Location: Methuen, Ma.USA Posts: 658	There is a big difference between Lucille Ball and Ozzie and Harriet Nelson. Ball's physically blunt style comedy was much too harsh and ell known for her to guest star om TZ. Besides everyone would be expecting her to be called Lucy. The Nelsons on the other hand though also comic actors had a much more sensible style of verbal comedy making them better possible TZ guests in a TZ comedy. They were also less popular than she was. So they'd have been easier to accept on TZ.

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