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Old 08-25-2017, 09:19 PM   #46
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but I couldn't even vote for Democrat nor Republican in the last election... so I went with the Libertarian ticket which I feel might be the new Third-party.

Yeah I agree with you. I feel that the Republican party is not the party that I thought it would be. The Democrats are becoming more and more liberal. I'm not sure yet, but I also think that the Libertarian might be the new Third-party.

I wonder if the next presidential election an independent party might win.
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The Democrats are run by limousine liberals these days. Liberal on social issues, but still look down on the poor and think it's their fault for not being successful. We need people in power who don't think poverty is a moral failing, but realize most poor folk are good people that are just the victims of a corrupt system.

I've been around people who say "Democrats are for the Poor, Republicans are for the Rich".

I don't believe that one bit...I'm someone who lives under the poverty line, I live in one of the poorest cities in America, I'm the 33%...or something like that...

I liked what the Republican Party was...not the Neo-Cons we have in office...they were once for people wanting to be rich, live like a king, no matter what color your skin is or anything...they once brought you in open arms!

Republicans today really aren't like that...they might as well merge with the Democrats!
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:32 PM   #48
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I've been around people who say "Democrats are for the Poor, Republicans are for the Rich".

I don't believe that one bit...I'm someone who lives under the poverty line, I live in one of the poorest cities in America, I'm the 33%...or something like that...

I liked what the Republican Party was...not the Neo-Cons we have in office...they were once for people wanting to be rich, live like a king, no matter what color your skin is or anything...they once brought you in open arms!

Republicans today really aren't like that...they might as well merge with the Democrats!


You said it beautifully, Mr. Cleveland!
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You said it beautifully, Mr. Cleveland!

My opinion of the two main parties is like this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DrRnI-1Ssg

I know Judy Collins made this song a hit, but I love how Ol' Blue-Eyes sings this.

I voted for Bush twice and Obama twice. Sometimes when a Democrat I like is in office like in 2006 when I voted for Governor Ted Strickland, I voted for a few Republicans.

I feel that Trump will split the Republican Party!
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I've been around people who say "Democrats are for the Poor, Republicans are for the Rich".

I don't believe that one bit...I'm someone who lives under the poverty line, I live in one of the poorest cities in America, I'm the 33%...or something like that...

I liked what the Republican Party was...not the Neo-Cons we have in office...they were once for people wanting to be rich, live like a king, no matter what color your skin is or anything...they once brought you in open arms!

Republicans today really aren't like that...they might as well merge with the Democrats!

Both parties are for the corporations and increasingly the Republicans are bringing in the racists (who until the 60's were Democrats). Neither party helps the poor. Case in point, years ago I needed medical assistance and asked why the Democrats in Illinois were expanding medicaid for parents (including those here illegally) but not for people without kids. The person told me to "suck it up". So a poor person without kids is worth less than a person here illegally? I was livid because I've been a taxpayer for years but they would rather help others.
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Both parties are for the corporations and increasingly the Republicans are bringing in the racists (who until the 60's were Democrats). Neither party helps the poor. Case in point, years ago I needed medical assistance and asked why the Democrats in Illinois were expanding medicaid for parents (including those here illegally) but not for people without kids. The person told me to "suck it up". So a poor person without kids is worth less than a person here illegally? I was livid because I've been a taxpayer for years but they would rather help others.
Tell me as an outsider what is the real situation of illegal immigrants, how many do you have and what are these so-called sanctuary cities all about? We in Europe have had millions come from Syria and sub-Saharan Africa to name but two places and once they're here there's very little you can do to send them back.
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Tell me as an outsider what is the real situation of illegal immigrants, how many do you have and what are these so-called sanctuary cities all about? We in Europe have had millions come from Syria and sub-Saharan Africa to name but two places and once they're here there's very little you can do to send them back.

Our illegals are mostly Mexican though we do have Polish, Irish, Arabian, etc. This varies in each state but in Illinois we have a generous welfare system for all parents (not so generous for childless poor) and were getting people coming here from other states and other countries. I'm not sure what the answer is but the welfare system here is a big problem. Years I worked in ESL and this couple came in. They were from Russia and never worked a day in this country (they were elderly) but somehow got benefits just because they were old. Sanctuary cities basically will protect them to some extent though not always. We had a case years ago where this woman who didn't work and didn't speak English was in a church. http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news...-key-q.html.My opinion is this and that is those illegals who do come to sponge off the citizens should be deported along with criminals. Others sould be a on case by case situation.
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