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Old 07-17-2017, 02:07 AM   #1
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Default Fox News is trying to normalize collusion

https://www.vox.com/videos/2017/7/14...-trump-hannity

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The network is entering dangerous territory to defend Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian attorney.

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The network spent the week attempting to minimize the story: dismissing the meeting as a setup and arguing that Trump Jr. was too politically inexperienced to understand that he was attempting to engage in collusion.

But Fox hosts also attempted to normalize Trump Jr.’s failed attempt at collusion, describing it as an example of routine opposition research. “How many lobbyists in Washington routinely meet with foreign agents who are seeking to influence American policy? ... That’s standard here and has been for a long time,” argued Tucker Carlson. “Always happens, and if anyone says it doesn’t, it’s a lie,” claimed Sean Hannity.

That defense of Trump Jr.’s meeting — conflating contacts with foreign governments and a clear attempt to collude with a hostile foreign power to affect the outcome of an election — demonstrates that Fox News is willing to normalize even an attack on a basic democratic norm in order to defend the Trump administration.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:21 PM   #2
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You are confused. The only campaign with a real record of collusion and conspiring is the Hillary campaign. They colluded with, conspired and paid money to Ukraine and Russia to manufacture dirt on Trump. The Hillary campaign colluded and conspired with CNN to get the questions of the Hillary/Sanders debate ahead of time. The Hillary campaign colluded and conspired with the DNC to cheat Sanders out of delegates in the primaries. The Don Jr meeting was NOTHING no info came of it. It was perfectly legal. WOW! You Trump haters will ignore real crimes just to hurt Trump. Sad!
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:50 PM   #3
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You are confused. The only campaign with a real record of collusion and conspiring is the Hillary campaign. They colluded with, conspired and paid money to Ukraine and Russia to manufacture dirt on Trump. The Hillary campaign colluded and conspired with CNN to get the questions of the Hillary/Sanders debate ahead of time. The Hillary campaign colluded and conspired with the DNC to cheat Sanders out of delegates in the primaries. The Don Jr meeting was NOTHING no info came of it. It was perfectly legal. WOW! You Trump haters will ignore real crimes just to hurt Trump. Sad!

If she did so, she would have been blown to the hell by Trump's camp already. Hillary's e-mail was hacked by Russian, there is no doubt right now. She is a victim of email hacking by a foreign power, how could she becomes a defendant? There are evidence those people that conspired with Russians are from Trump's camp. Answer this question, Who called for Russian's help for his campaign?

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“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference

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Ordinary people have no resource to get inside information. They can only to judge it by common sense. Who colludes with Russians? Clinton is a political celebrity, Russians prefer Trump to Clinton, that means behind Trump, there is a more powerful group that attracts Russian - that is the Feds.(the FBI) So they can win the election. Even to meddle the water by internet shill.
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If she did so, she would have been blown to the hell by Trump's camp already. Hillary's e-mail was hacked by Russian, there is no doubt right now. She is a victim of email hacking by a foreign power, how could she becomes a defendant? There are evidence those people that conspired with Russians are from Trump's camp. Answer this question, Who called for Russian's help for his campaign?


Ordinary people have no resource to get inside information. They can only to judge it by common sense. Who colludes with Russians? Clinton is a political celebrity, Russians prefer Trump to Clinton, that means behind Trump, there is a more powerful group that attracts Russian - that is the Feds.(the FBI) So they can win the election. Even to meddle the water by internet shill.[/quote]
Prove Russia prefers Trump. Since Trump became President, he has hurt Russia in the middle east, Sold natural gas to Poland, which hurts Russia much more than any "sanctions" as Russia is just a gas station with nuclear missiles, something Hillary would NEVER have done because of Global Warming. Hillary, as Sec. of State helped Russia get 25% of American Uranium. Took 100 million dollars from Russia for the Clinton foundation, colluded with Ukraine and Russia to trash Trump, I could go on. What has Trump done for Russia?
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Prove Russia prefers Trump. Since Trump became President, he has hurt Russia in the middle east, Sold natural gas to Poland, which hurts Russia much more than any "sanctions" as Russia is just a gas station with nuclear missiles, something Hillary would NEVER have done because of Global Warming.


941. Payment to Russia for hacking in US election (1/4/2017)

Of course, Russia won't do it for free. There must be a secret deal between the intelligence of the two countries. We outsiders can only see it from some facts.

The secret deal: Hacked email were handed to Wikileaks to issue to hit Hillary Clinton.

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1. Aleppo falls (or "liberated" from Russia side) on 12/15. Resistance and civil withdraw from East Aleppo by bus. Five years fight ends. A big victory for Russia and its allies.

2. Economic interest.

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December 17, 2016

The total value of Japan's contribution in investment and loans, including through agreements between private sector firms, is around 300 billion yen ($2.54 billion), Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Kotaro Nogami said after the leaders' summit.

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Putin dismissed the notion that he was only interested in getting economic benefits from Japan.

"If anyone thinks we’re interested only in developing economic links and a peace deal is of secondary importance, that’s not the case," he told the same news conference. That's all for the controversial islands. He went Japan just for those business deals.


You may say that's something between Russia and Japan. The Truth is Japan is the pocket slave of the US. If you still remember Trump claims credit for $50 billion investment by Japanese firm and 7 billion from a Taiwan firm. They were puppet nations that have to pay their defense share that Trump demands. Include that payment to Russia for the US sake.


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Hillary, as Sec. of State helped Russia get 25% of American Uranium. Took 100 million dollars from Russia for the Clinton foundation, colluded with Ukraine and Russia to trash Trump, I could go on. What has Trump done for Russia?

Russia is not a rich country. It has a tight economy under sanction. 100 million dollars? I'd like to see your source.
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941. Payment to Russia for hacking in US election (1/4/2017)

Of course, Russia won't do it for free. There must be a secret deal between the intelligence of the two countries. We outsiders can only see it from some facts.

The secret deal: Hacked email were handed to Wikileaks to issue to hit Hillary Clinton.

The payment of secret deal:

1. Aleppo falls (or "liberated" from Russia side) on 12/15. Resistance and civil withdraw from East Aleppo by bus. Five years fight ends. A big victory for Russia and its allies.

2. Economic interest.



Putin dismissed the notion that he was only interested in getting economic benefits from Japan.

"If anyone thinks we’re interested only in developing economic links and a peace deal is of secondary importance, that’s not the case," he told the same news conference. That's all for the controversial islands. He went Japan just for those business deals.


You may say that's something between Russia and Japan. The Truth is Japan is the pocket slave of the US. If you still remember Trump claims credit for $50 billion investment by Japanese firm and 7 billion from a Taiwan firm. They were puppet nations that have to pay their defense share that Trump demands. Include that payment to Russia for the US sake.




Russia is not a rich country. It has a tight economy under sanction. 100 million dollars? I'd like to see your source.
Read it and weep. No less than the liberal NYT!
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...y.html?mcubz=1
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