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Old 04-25-2017, 07:33 AM   #16
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I can't say I am surprised by Scott Baio's insensitive and hateful comments. This is who is is. He is a worthless jerk and I can see why he supports Trump. They are alike.

As for Erin, she was a wonderful person and sorry that her life was so unhappy. She was a very good actress. RIP!!
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:15 AM   #17
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He goes on and on tearing her down and then his only apology is saying, "I said IF?" Such a worthless scumbag.
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Old 04-25-2017, 11:51 AM   #18
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First, at the same time that the other cast members spoke on social media, Baio put out his own message:

"May people remember Erin for her contagious smile, warm heart, and animal loving soul. I always hoped she could find peace in her life. God has you now, Erin."

The people in this thread who are pretending he didn't say this should be ashamed.

It's very seldom that the deaths of drug abusers are officially attributed to drug abuse. The people at the scene will attribute the death to whatever stopped the person's heart. Wikipedia right now is saying throat cancer - that's heavily associated with both abuse of alcohol and with smoking of any kind. Drug abuse undermines a person's health, stops them from seeking medical attention, and cuts them of from people who would try to get them back to normal lives.

It is normal to be angry at someone who you were close to, even after they die. There's frustration, there's guilt over not doing more, there's resentment if the person chose a destructive path and wouldn't leave it. In such circumstances, it's possible that the person who died would not have wanted their death to be romanticized - they might actually have wanted to tell people in plain language, "Don't follow me down this path," but couldn't get straight enough to do it.

People have to be given the opportunity to grieve in their own ways, and they especially have to be given that opportunity by people who don't know either of the people involved.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:22 PM   #19
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I didn't know Erin was raped. But the thing is while Baio's comments were wrong we don't know what happened behind the scenes. Didn't her cast members try to help her and she didn't want it?
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:44 PM   #20
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I didn't know Erin was raped. But the thing is while Baio's comments were wrong we don't know what happened behind the scenes. Didn't her cast members try to help her and she didn't want it?

I just watched a brand-new interview with Marion Ross, who said Erin began abusing drugs the final year of Happy Days. Erin was 23 at that point. She said she was raped by a family member when she was 23. There seems to be cause and effect.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:52 PM   #21
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I was going to say something on this earlier after the first few posts, but I thought I'd wait until it was more obvious.

This is the real hatred here for Scott Baio, not what he said about Erin Moran.
Well, it does fit into the stereotype about how many of his supporters are heartless and arrogant.

I have relatives and friends who voted for Trump, but they don't act like Scott Baio. Baio to me is at the point where Kirk Cameron is tolerable in comparison.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:54 PM   #22
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In comparison. Here's what Cathy Silvers had to say. And I believe she is 100% genuine. She is a FB friend and even long before Saturday, she would post photos of her and Erin and talk about how much she loved her and thought of her as a sister. While Baio is being pompous, Cathy is heartbroken

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In comparison. Here's what Cathy Silvers had to say. And I believe she is 100% genuine. She is a FB friend and even long before Saturday, she would post photos of her and Erin and talk about how much she loved her and thought of her as a sister. While Baio is being pompous, Cathy is heartbroken

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Thank you for posting that. It brought a tear to my eye. Cathy seems like a sweet person and a genuine friend.

While Scott Baio tried (unsuccessfully IMO) to backtrack his comments yesterday, the insensitive nature of what he said fits a pattern. I posted the following back in July when he spoke at the Republican convention:

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After [Baio] spoke, a reporter asked him if Joanie would approve of his speech. He snidely responded, with a scowl on his face, that the only Joanie that matters is Joni Ernst [referring to the Iowa senator]. A couple years ago when Erin Moran was in the news for her personal crisis, he was asked about her and he responded something to the effect that he "has his own family to worry about." In other words, to hell with Erin and her problems. Granted, she probably brought on most of her woes, but is it necessary to be so publicly cold? I've heard (though I don't know if it's true) that Henry Winkler has reached out to help Erin. You don't want to be an enabler, but at the same time you don't want someone to fall off the cliff.

I will add that when I wrote this, I don't think I was not aware of her having been raped by a family member. At least I hadn't put all the pieces together at that point. Knowing that now, I blame the family rapist for leading her down a dark path. People need to understand that rape isn't a one-time event. It affects a person's entire life and psychological health. Baio said he reached out to Erin "a couple times" in the past then gave up. A couple times with someone deeply traumatized who may have lost her family doesn't cut it. It sounds like Cathy was there for her all along, and Henry Winkler, Anson Williams, Marion Ross, and a few others. I hope she felt their sincere love.
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"Saturday, April 22nd around 3:30 PM my wife received a text message saying Erin Moran had died. I couldn't believe it. NO PRESS OR MEDIA HAD REPORTED THIS. I thought it may be a hoax. Shortly after that TMZ reported this to be true, along with every other news outlet to follow. I was sad, in disbelief, sick to my stomach, and in complete shock.

Sunday, April 23rd I sat in my office, collected my thoughts to post a statement. I wanted to remember all the best, my most fondest times with Erin. I was still trying to process this loss. Later that evening, the Internet and television stations were blasting headlines 'Erin Moran died due to a heroine overdose.' This made me very upset and angry. This is one of my worse fears for her, or anyone else. Especially in this business. I was on an emotional rollercoaster. I hadn't slept well since the news of her passing.

Monday, April 24th at 6AM Pacific time I did a live radio interview. I was asked ONLY about Erin's troubled past due to drug & alcohol abuse. I was still upset and said I felt that living that kind of a lifestyle will catch up with you and nothing good would come of it. THIS WAS BEFORE THE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS ANNOUNCED STATING STAGE 4 CANCER.

Now it seems every news outlet & tabloid wants to paint a different picture of me and of what really happened. They're stating that I'm saying drugs caused her to die after it was reported stage 4 cancer. This is so wrong! Now I truly understand the meaning of 'Fake News.' This is crazy.

I'm also trying to process this loss. Erin was my very first real girlfriend. My wife and Erin contacted each other and spoke often for over a decade. I even had her on my reality show years ago. I DID reach out to her over a span of 30 years.

Please stop assuming the worse in me. I'm a compassionate person. I'm very heartbroken over her passing, especially since it was cancer. I don't see people going after or attacking every network that said it was a drug overdose. I've openly stated my truths. I'm done."



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Old 04-25-2017, 02:51 PM   #25
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Even if Erin did die from drugs, it's still a jerk-move on Scott's part to be so cold about her death. He was spouting off before he even knew what the truth was.

And even if Scott did have a point that Erin for all her turmoil still held the responsibility of her well being to her own choices (and no you can't help someone who doesn't (not can't) help themselves) his overall statement comes off superior and condescending. He simply seems to lack empathy for people who did not come up under the same "positive" circumstances that he seems to think he did.
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And really he didn't say that much different than Paul Peterson did a few days ago. Most people assumed it was drugs.
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Repeating what I said: Scott Baio has been insensitive towards Erin Moran for a LONG time. This did not just begin yesterday. He's trying to backtrack those remarks, but I've heard the things he's said previously. He was a jerk before, he was a jerk again yesterday. And once more, I ask, has Mr. Baio ever been raped by a member of his family? Maybe if he had some empathy and understanding of sexual assault victims he would have been more patient with her and understanding of her ordeal.
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Erin Moran's brother and cousin are extremely upset and angry with Scott Baio. Not only for his insensitive comments, but also the fact that his apology was from a phone call by his wife. He didn't even make it himself! He is a coward.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/erin...rd-scott-baio/
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Baio deserves it.

I love that he blames not being able to get work on the fact he's a Trumpster.... outside of former co-stars like Howard (getting him Bob Loblaw on Arrested Development), what was his excuse for not being a star for the previous 25 years before the election after Charles In Charge went off the air? He is precisely the type of person that shows why I rarely get along with Trump supporters to begin with.
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Erin Moran's brother and cousin are extremely upset and angry with Scott Baio. Not only for his insensitive comments, but also the fact that his apology was from a phone call by his wife. He didn't even make it himself! He is a coward.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/erin...rd-scott-baio/

Wow, He should have made that phone call himself, if he can say those ugly remarks, then he should be man enough to apologize and take ownership of what he said to her family. I normally like Scott just fine, but this was a bad idea on his part.. :/.
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