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Old 04-04-2017, 12:38 PM   #1
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Default I don't get this show...

What am I missing? I don't understand the whole basis of this show and it bores me to tears.

MeTV needs to remove it.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:51 PM   #2
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Same here. I like the theme song but I just can't get into the show. MeTV has shown it in the same time slot for too long now. It's time to put something else on then.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:53 PM   #3
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I don't get it either. I tried watching it. Couldn't even make it through one episode it was so boring and dreadful. MeTV needs to remove it. They have much more worthy sitcoms.
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So they should get rid of a show just because you don't like it? What about the people that do like it?
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:31 PM   #5
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I'm perplexed by this show as well. I watch it sometimes just if nothing else is on. What I've noticed is the extremely high production values, intricate stories, and great acting. And yet it's not funny at all. That's what I find perplexing. It's simply not entertaining to me despite the fact it appears to be a very well-made show. I guess some premises just don't click with me.

Schedule-wise, it needs to go. Not leave the network, but get out of the valuable primetime slot it's had for years. Even fans will have to agree it's been in that slot forever and a change is due.
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:34 PM   #6
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I agree! I don't like it either. Same here the theme song is catchy, but the whole concept of making a comedy out of Nazi's and a POW camp has me scratching my head!

But to be honest, I really haven't ever sat and watched a whole ep. all the way through either. And I have to admit from what I saw this fat guy is kind of funny!

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Old 04-04-2017, 02:11 PM   #7
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I agree! I don't like it either. Same here the theme song is catchy, but the whole concept of making a comedy out of Nazi's and a POW camp has me scratching my head!

But to be honest, I really haven't ever sat and watched a whole ep. all the way through either. And I have to admit from what I saw this fat guy is kind of funny!


The whole show is funny. All the actors are great. But hey some people think shows like Family Matters and The Nanny is funny, so there you go.
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I liked Hogans Heroes. I have the book.

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Old 04-04-2017, 03:21 PM   #9
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I was meaning to do a thread on this subject, so might as well just do it here.

As I've said elsewhere, the device used in this show is literally ancient: the clever slave. It derives from Roman plays, such as were adapted in the Broadway musical "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum." The theme is that determination and brains can triumph over a powerful opponent, and the clever one is helped along quite a bit if he or she can find an opponent that's a bit dimwitted and lazy, and that's very vain about it's invincibility.

Far from the criticism the show receives from the intelligentsia today, it was well-received when it was on. It was nominated for best comedy Emmy its first three seasons, Bob Crane was nominated twice, Werner Klemperer was nominated five times, and won twice. The other shows nominated against Hogan were Dick van Dyke, Get Smart, Batman, Bewitched, Andy Griffith Show, The Monkees, The Lucy Show, and Family Affair. Taken together, that's a very good group, and Hogan was matched against them three years running.

Supposed moral issues related to the show are, I think, just exploded by the casting. All of the main German roles (Klink, Schultz, Burkhalter, and Hochstetter) were played by Jews, and the first three were Jews who had escaped from Germany and were impacted by the Holocaust. Robert Clary (LeBeau) was the same story. If these men could draw on their personal experiences to bring humor to this situation as actors, I'm just scornful of anyone who looks down their noses at them 50 years later and sniffs at the supposedly revolting work they did.

The cast is one of the better ever assembled: Bob Crane is a competent comedian, more the stable center of an ensemble like Judd Hirsch or Hal Linden, but he's still on the funny side of that line. The fact is, though, that he's by far the worst regular in the cast - the four main German characters are all wonderfully acted, and each of Hogan's men are well-acted and well-rounded characters. Guest stars were often of the great stable of early TV character actors: Bernard Fox, Nita Talbot, Vito Scotti, Harold Gould, Harold G. Stone, Kathleen Freeman - the list goes on and on. My only real quibble with the cast is the replacement of Cynthia Lynn as Fraulein Helga by Fraulein Hilda.

The show does have a problem, which is that despite the tunnels out of the camp, they do have to keep coming back there, and that makes the show naturally static, and then they averaged 28 episodes a year, so it's repetitive, too. That's a lot of jams to get into and out of. After a while, shows like this are not so much about the twists of the plot as about the characters reactions to those twists. In this way, it's a lot like Three's Company or one of the farce episodes of Frasier - you have to suspend your skepticism about the plot, and just look for what goofy thing they come up with.

All this said, I do agree that it's been in its MeTV time slot, ten times a week, longer than is probably healthy for the show. I guess it must still sell Statue of Liberty insurance and "I Can't Get Up" buttons for them, or it wouldn't be there.

Little edit: I was thinking about this. I think the show is a little different than most military sitcoms. Most are really similar to other workplace comedies, and the "enemy" is the superior officers or the army itself. Even MASH does that in the first few years. Hogan, though, is focused on the missions and how to carry them out. It's plot line seems closer to the spy shows and movies of the 60s, especially ones with an ironic undertone like It Takes a Thief or the Matt Helm movies.

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I haven't watched a lot of the show, so correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Didn't they imply that the prisoners could have left anytime, but that staying there was really more benefit to them because they could undermine the Nazi war effort more effectively? That could be one of those things I just "thought" I remember, a la the Mandela Effect.

And they never did leave/escape the camp for good, right, after the show was ended?
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Good analysis, ABH...it was probably popular in its time, since my Dad's generation fought in that war, and they enjoyed seeing that portrayal, as totally unlikely as it was. I think it's kind of worn out its welcome on MeTV, but as you say, I guess it sells the My Pillows and the mesothelioma lawsuits.
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This show has run it's course on MeTV.It's time to replace it with something else or move it to another time slot and have only 1 showing a day instead of 2 shows back to back. I personally have really never liked it.
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Meh I still have no interest in it, sitcoms that have a war setting have never jibed with me likewise I'd never see something like F-Troop or M*A*S*H.
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Meh I still have no interest in it, sitcoms that have a war setting have never jibed with me likewise I'd never see something like F-Troop or M*A*S*H.
For me it's strange because I have no problem with war settings. I think F-Troop is great. It's just something about the way the characters, plots, etc. mesh on Hogan's Heroes that doesn't appeal to me. Though like I said before, I don't see it as a bad show quality-wise. Keeping my interest and making me laugh is where it falls short for me.

But that's just my opinion.
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Didn't they imply that the prisoners could have left anytime, but that staying there was really more benefit to them because they could undermine the Nazi war effort more effectively? That could be one of those things I just "thought" I remember, a la the Mandela Effect.

And they never did leave/escape the camp for good, right, after the show was ended?

I think there's an episode where Hogan says something like, "We're not prisoners, we're stationed here." There is an episode where General DeGaulle asks all Frenchmen to come and fight with him, and LeBeau has to decide whether to do that or stay with Hogan.

There was no finale where the war ended or anything.
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