If you had the power to solve 1 "UM" mystery.... - Page 2

Big3sCompanyFan · 12-02-2003, 12:31 AM

I would like to see the Bigfoot/Sasquatsch mystery solved once and for all. It goes by many other names such as the Yeti in Nepal, the Yeren in China, the Yowie in Austrailia, the Skunk ape in Florida, etc.

There are so many sightings that cross so many cultures you have to think in at least one of the cases it is real.

Dilly · 12-02-2003, 01:29 AM

Wow, you guys have brought up so many cases I had forgotten about. Great job!

I would also like to add the one of the 2 or 3 boys found laid out over some train tracks in the woods. What happened to them?

Also, more about Rain boy. They say there might be a movie made of this story but have found almost nothing on the internet.

And the mysterious case of the woman whose husband was found dead yet he began speaking to another man who his killer was. His wife believed him yet not enough evidence against the man named.

The case of the young man who wanted to go back out to deposit his paycheck at the ATM yet was found dead later. The pictures captured a strange man peeking over his shoulder but never identified.

Also, the road rage guy who shot a man after a miner traffic accident. The man made it home and gave a brief description to his wife and police before he died.

And the woman who was shot by a man in a truck on a lonely road. He was taunting her as well as other vehicles. She survived but he was never caught.

Whew! These cases are always in my head. I WANT A SOLUTION !

johnnyphantom · 12-03-2003, 12:14 PM

For me, it would definately be the Deborah Poe case. She was the young lady who disappeared from a Circle K in Orlando Florida. This was the same case where supposedly, there was a man in the store wearing a MEGADETH shirt after Deborah was last seen.

This is the case I would solve if I could.

http://www.geocities.com/whereisdeborahpoe/

Johnny Phantom

Bluejay · 12-05-2003, 03:55 PM

No question. The Korzilius murder.

The tiny mummy found in a cave in the southwest, with a possible connection to Indian legends about a race of little people.

As others have mentioned, the elderly black man who wandered around seeming not to know what was going on and finally disappeared.

The murder of the yeshivah student.

And the one they never did and should have, Little Miss 1565 from the Hartford circus fire in '44. She was prematurely identified as Eleanor "Honey" Cook and buried in the Cook family plot along with Honey's brother Eddie, but their mom always maintained that the girl in the famous photograph is not Honey, and she died a couple of years ago believing that Honey was yet to be found. Also, 1565's and Honey's dental records don't match.

Awsi Dooger · 12-09-2003, 04:39 AM

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=67888

I posted it here earlier this year, to some disagreement, after viewing a Discovery Channel program that theorized McCoy as Cooper. It was so convincing that I read the most relevant book on the connection, "D.B. Cooper, the Real McCoy." After finishing that book, I am certain that only one man was responsible for both incidents. Most of the relevant facts linking McCoy to the Cooper jump are listed in my previous thread.

Generally, I dismiss conspiracy theories as creative nonsense. But when a conspiracy is real and undeniable, I believe it is almost always more basic and with fewer people involved than is typically accepted. Two remarkably similar but unrelated skyjackings in such a small window of time is a thousand fold more unlikely than one individual responsible for both, IMO

gaf · 12-09-2003, 02:47 PM

dynoguy88, I've read several posts on this board about the case you mentioned. (Maples) Every one of them mentioned how scary the update music was. I've seen it on UM several times, but it's been a long time since I last saw it and I couldn't remember the music that went along with it. Until today. I came across a post that typed out how the music went, and it all came back to me. Now I've got that music in my head.

I'd like to solve any of the child kidnapping cases because those are the most depressing. Another case I want solved is the one of the convenience store employee who was killed. The security camera caught the intruder on video. He had some kind of lumpy back. Anyone remember that? I think it was from the 1994-1995 season. He took the employee into the back room. A customer happened to come by for gas, and the intruder heard the bell that rang. The intruder thought it was a security bell and shot the employee. That one has always made me angry every time I see it.

Either that or the I-70 serial killer since I live in the general area he's struck.

dynoguy88 · 12-09-2003, 03:49 PM

LOL! Sorry that you have the freaky music stuck in your head, gaf.

It really does add to the effect of the creepyness of the case especially when you combine it with Robert Stack's voice.

I wish there was some way we could get all the different UM background music on a CD. It would be perfect to play around Halloween for the trick-or-treaters.

heartofgold · 12-15-2003, 09:32 AM

Amelia Earhart-even though I think she was killed on a small island

yeshiva student

Composite Sketch · 12-15-2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by gaf
Another case I want solved is the one of the convenience store employee who was killed. The security camera caught the intruder on video. He had some kind of lumpy back. Anyone remember that? I think it was from the 1994-1995 season. He took the employee into the back room. A customer happened to come by for gas, and the intruder heard the bell that rang. The intruder thought it was a security bell and shot the employee. That one has always made me angry every time I see it.

Yup. I believe that was aired in late 1995. I remember thinking that the 'lumpy back' was investigators trying to seek out anything to give them some sort of clue as to the killer. That case is one of the reasons why security camera footage creeps me out.

Hey, speaking of scary music, one sound byte is constantly in my head now. I can't even beging to describe it, but it was used frequently in the 'Diabolical Minds' episode, and it's the music played when the Rogers family's bodies were found and recovered in Tampa Bay.

gaf · 12-15-2003, 05:16 PM

After I posted my comment, I checked to see when it aired. (Real smart, huh?) It first aired January 5, 1996. The murder happened in 1994.

The security camera footage in that segment was disturbing, but it had nothing on the Matthew Chase segment. That was eerie.

I don't remember the music that went along with the segment on the Tampa Bay murders. I'm kind of glad I don't!

canadianmysterygrl · 12-16-2003, 08:15 PM

I want to know what happened to Adam and Elaina Emery.
This is killing me.

burmaslave · 12-27-2003, 09:26 PM

1. I always wanted to know what happened to Amy Billig. There were just so many peculiar things involved with the case. How she was "mute," Paul Branche's death bed confession saying Amy was fed to alligators in the everglades, and the strange phone calls Amy's mother got for 21 years from some stalker saying he knew what really happened to Amy. Finally the guy was caught in 1995. His name was Henry Johnson Blair.

Also, on the UM segment about Amy Billig's case was something about a biker in England trying to sell a girl to a man at a bus station or train depot. Atleast, that's where I think it occured at, I'm not 100% sure. For some reason, it was thought that that girl might have been Amy.

2. Amy Wroe Betchel. Something about her husband seemed a bit off. He also had many notebooks filled with rather incriminating evidence. I believe he also wrote a poem about killing someone and hiding the body so that it would never be found.

Also, someone camping in the woods near the area where Amy was jogging thought they saw a truck resembling Amy's husband's truck with a blonde women (Amy was blonde) in the passenger seat.

burmaslave · 12-27-2003, 10:16 PM

I wish I had more information on this one. It was about a bank robber who came in early when the bank first opened. He took one of the tellers and handcuffed her inside the vault. Then another teller came in and he had her help him put a lot of cash into a bag or briefcase, I guess. Possibly, the second women who came in was the one handcuffed, but that's kind of trivial information.

Somehow one of the women contacted the police, and the robber let one of the women go. I forgot what happened to the other women, but I think she was the handcuffed one in the vault.

He also did something to the alarm buttons or door handles, if I recall correctly. He used either tape or glue to cause them not to stick or something.

And the night before, someone threw a rock at the bank window and shattered a lot of glass. Investigators thought that it was the bank robber testing the alarm system.

Then the guy disappeared. The women in the vault said she heard a lot of noises from above, possibly in the air ducts. Well, when all this was explained, a commercial came on and when UM returned, they were doing a new case.

I'm not sure if there was just an accident and the part that revealed what happened to the robber was taken out or if there wasn't anything more to the segment.

I'm just so fascinated that he seemingly vanished into thin air when the bank was surrounded by law enforcement.

kytheria · 12-30-2003, 05:26 AM

There are so many I would love to see solved (murder of Cindy James, Kristi and Bobby Baskin's kidnapping, Judith Himes' disappearance, what happened to Mary Agnes Gross, Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman's disappearance), but the one that's never left my mind is the longtime torment of the Wackers. It really bothers me that these poor people have been living in fear for so long. I want to know what apparent motive someone would have for terrorizing an elderly couple, and how it is he/she/they never got caught.

Mijada · 12-30-2003, 12:32 PM

The Clifford Sherwood case bothered me. I'd like to see him reunited with his mom before she dies.
The Amy Bradley segment got to me too. Hopefully that one will be solved soon. There is still a lot of publicity about that case.

12-05-2003, 03:55 PM	#19
Bluejay Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Sep 18, 2003 Location: California Posts: 88	If I could solve an unsolved... No question. The Korzilius murder. The tiny mummy found in a cave in the southwest, with a possible connection to Indian legends about a race of little people. As others have mentioned, the elderly black man who wandered around seeming not to know what was going on and finally disappeared. The murder of the yeshivah student. And the one they never did and should have, Little Miss 1565 from the Hartford circus fire in '44. She was prematurely identified as Eleanor "Honey" Cook and buried in the Cook family plot along with Honey's brother Eddie, but their mom always maintained that the girl in the famous photograph is not Honey, and she died a couple of years ago believing that Honey was yet to be found. Also, 1565's and Honey's dental records don't match. __________________ For every mystery there is someone, somewhere who knows the truth. Perhaps... it's you!

12-09-2003, 04:39 AM	#20
Awsi Dooger Senior Member Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,195	Composite Sketch, here's my Richard McCoy as D.B. Cooper link: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=67888 I posted it here earlier this year, to some disagreement, after viewing a Discovery Channel program that theorized McCoy as Cooper. It was so convincing that I read the most relevant book on the connection, "D.B. Cooper, the Real McCoy." After finishing that book, I am certain that only one man was responsible for both incidents. Most of the relevant facts linking McCoy to the Cooper jump are listed in my previous thread. Generally, I dismiss conspiracy theories as creative nonsense. But when a conspiracy is real and undeniable, I believe it is almost always more basic and with fewer people involved than is typically accepted. Two remarkably similar but unrelated skyjackings in such a small window of time is a thousand fold more unlikely than one individual responsible for both, IMO

12-09-2003, 03:49 PM	#22
dynoguy88 Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Dearborn, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,014	reply LOL! Sorry that you have the freaky music stuck in your head, gaf. It really does add to the effect of the creepyness of the case especially when you combine it with Robert Stack's voice. I wish there was some way we could get all the different UM background music on a CD. It would be perfect to play around Halloween for the trick-or-treaters.

12-27-2003, 10:16 PM	#28
burmaslave Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Dec 27, 2003 Posts: 10	Ok, one more... I wish I had more information on this one. It was about a bank robber who came in early when the bank first opened. He took one of the tellers and handcuffed her inside the vault. Then another teller came in and he had her help him put a lot of cash into a bag or briefcase, I guess. Possibly, the second women who came in was the one handcuffed, but that's kind of trivial information. Somehow one of the women contacted the police, and the robber let one of the women go. I forgot what happened to the other women, but I think she was the handcuffed one in the vault. He also did something to the alarm buttons or door handles, if I recall correctly. He used either tape or glue to cause them not to stick or something. And the night before, someone threw a rock at the bank window and shattered a lot of glass. Investigators thought that it was the bank robber testing the alarm system. Then the guy disappeared. The women in the vault said she heard a lot of noises from above, possibly in the air ducts. Well, when all this was explained, a commercial came on and when UM returned, they were doing a new case. I'm not sure if there was just an accident and the part that revealed what happened to the robber was taken out or if there wasn't anything more to the segment. I'm just so fascinated that he seemingly vanished into thin air when the bank was surrounded by law enforcement.

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12-02-2003, 12:31 AM	#16
Big3sCompanyFan Forum Regular Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2003 Posts: 755	I would like to see the Bigfoot/Sasquatsch mystery solved once and for all. It goes by many other names such as the Yeti in Nepal, the Yeren in China, the Yowie in Austrailia, the Skunk ape in Florida, etc. There are so many sightings that cross so many cultures you have to think in at least one of the cases it is real.

12-02-2003, 01:29 AM	#17
Dilly Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 03, 2003 Location: California Posts: 133	Wow, you guys have brought up so many cases I had forgotten about. Great job! I would also like to add the one of the 2 or 3 boys found laid out over some train tracks in the woods. What happened to them? Also, more about Rain boy. They say there might be a movie made of this story but have found almost nothing on the internet. And the mysterious case of the woman whose husband was found dead yet he began speaking to another man who his killer was. His wife believed him yet not enough evidence against the man named. The case of the young man who wanted to go back out to deposit his paycheck at the ATM yet was found dead later. The pictures captured a strange man peeking over his shoulder but never identified. Also, the road rage guy who shot a man after a miner traffic accident. The man made it home and gave a brief description to his wife and police before he died. And the woman who was shot by a man in a truck on a lonely road. He was taunting her as well as other vehicles. She survived but he was never caught. Whew! These cases are always in my head. I WANT A SOLUTION !

12-03-2003, 12:14 PM	#18
johnnyphantom Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 3	For me, it would definately be the Deborah Poe case. She was the young lady who disappeared from a Circle K in Orlando Florida. This was the same case where supposedly, there was a man in the store wearing a MEGADETH shirt after Deborah was last seen. This is the case I would solve if I could. http://www.geocities.com/whereisdeborahpoe/ Johnny Phantom

12-09-2003, 02:47 PM	#21
gaf Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 90	dynoguy88, I've read several posts on this board about the case you mentioned. (Maples) Every one of them mentioned how scary the update music was. I've seen it on UM several times, but it's been a long time since I last saw it and I couldn't remember the music that went along with it. Until today. I came across a post that typed out how the music went, and it all came back to me. Now I've got that music in my head. I'd like to solve any of the child kidnapping cases because those are the most depressing. Another case I want solved is the one of the convenience store employee who was killed. The security camera caught the intruder on video. He had some kind of lumpy back. Anyone remember that? I think it was from the 1994-1995 season. He took the employee into the back room. A customer happened to come by for gas, and the intruder heard the bell that rang. The intruder thought it was a security bell and shot the employee. That one has always made me angry every time I see it. Either that or the I-70 serial killer since I live in the general area he's struck.

12-15-2003, 09:32 AM	#23
heartofgold Frequent Poster UM Junkie Join Date: Sep 30, 2003 Location: Dayton Posts: 66	Amelia Earhart-even though I think she was killed on a small island yeshiva student

12-15-2003, 05:16 PM	#25
gaf Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 90	After I posted my comment, I checked to see when it aired. (Real smart, huh?) It first aired January 5, 1996. The murder happened in 1994. The security camera footage in that segment was disturbing, but it had nothing on the Matthew Chase segment. That was eerie. I don't remember the music that went along with the segment on the Tampa Bay murders. I'm kind of glad I don't!

12-16-2003, 08:15 PM	#26
canadianmysterygrl Frequent Poster Member Join Date: Nov 20, 2003 Location: Vanouver British Columbia Canada Posts: 99	I want to know what happened to Adam and Elaina Emery. This is killing me.

12-27-2003, 09:26 PM	#27
burmaslave Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Dec 27, 2003 Posts: 10	1. I always wanted to know what happened to Amy Billig. There were just so many peculiar things involved with the case. How she was "mute," Paul Branche's death bed confession saying Amy was fed to alligators in the everglades, and the strange phone calls Amy's mother got for 21 years from some stalker saying he knew what really happened to Amy. Finally the guy was caught in 1995. His name was Henry Johnson Blair. Also, on the UM segment about Amy Billig's case was something about a biker in England trying to sell a girl to a man at a bus station or train depot. Atleast, that's where I think it occured at, I'm not 100% sure. For some reason, it was thought that that girl might have been Amy. 2. Amy Wroe Betchel. Something about her husband seemed a bit off. He also had many notebooks filled with rather incriminating evidence. I believe he also wrote a poem about killing someone and hiding the body so that it would never be found. Also, someone camping in the woods near the area where Amy was jogging thought they saw a truck resembling Amy's husband's truck with a blonde women (Amy was blonde) in the passenger seat.

12-30-2003, 05:26 AM	#29
kytheria Occasional Poster Member Join Date: Dec 23, 2003 Posts: 3	There are so many I would love to see solved (murder of Cindy James, Kristi and Bobby Baskin's kidnapping, Judith Himes' disappearance, what happened to Mary Agnes Gross, Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman's disappearance), but the one that's never left my mind is the longtime torment of the Wackers. It really bothers me that these poor people have been living in fear for so long. I want to know what apparent motive someone would have for terrorizing an elderly couple, and how it is he/she/they never got caught.

12-30-2003, 12:32 PM	#30
Mijada Senior Member Spencers mom Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,060	The Clifford Sherwood case bothered me. I'd like to see him reunited with his mom before she dies. The Amy Bradley segment got to me too. Hopefully that one will be solved soon. There is still a lot of publicity about that case.

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