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Old 06-19-2015, 10:26 AM   #1
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Default Show was made by the same people who made Mash

Gene Reynolds (created both shows). Actors William Christopher, Robert Hogan, etc. appeared on both show. There was plenty of mention of the bad Nazi enemy (like Goebbels) on HH but no mention of the one-and-only brutal mass-murderer of North Korea (Kim II Sung) on Mash.

PS If Alan Alda had done an ep of HH, what could he have feasibly played?
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Stop it with your vile hatred towards Alan Alda. It is not making you better; it is making your worse.
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Stop it with your vile hatred towards Alan Alda. It is not making you better; it is making your worse.
Alda is the one who forever seemed to hate the US Army. You remember that Army. The one that kept the whole free world safe from 1945 to 1991 when the USSR finally collapsed.
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Gene Reynolds (created both shows). Actors William Christopher, Robert Hogan, etc. appeared on both show. There was plenty of mention of the bad Nazi enemy (like Goebbels) on HH but no mention of the one-and-only brutal mass-murderer of North Korea (Kim II Sung) on Mash.

PS If Alan Alda had done an ep of HH, what could he have feasibly played?
John Orchard (Ugly John on Mash season one) also appeared on HH!
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No, it is obvious you have a sick hatred towards Alan Alda. All you do is bash him in thread after thread after thread.
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:52 PM   #6
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Best Man does have a point and perhaps seldom receives replies because his point is so obviously correct. Both the movie and TV show MASH were actually converted from a Korean War story to a metaphor for the Vietnam War, but the point still stands North Korea remains a human rights dead spot 60 years after the war was over and Vietnam is very close behind, while South Korea actually makes contributions to the world. Even Jane Fonda has retreated from her Vietnam-era statements and actions, and I'd like to hear Alda adress his input to MASH with a good interviewer.

Something like this I find disingenuous and irresponsible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/watch?v=jPGRVcnoOWY

If you listen carefully to the end, Alda is essentially saying that the Allies should not have fought WWII.
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Gene Reynolds had nothing to do with the creation of Hogan's Heroes. That show was created by Bernard Fein and Albert S. Ruddy. Fein, may have gotten the idea for the series 2 years earlier when he appeared in The Twilight Zone episode "He's Alive" which starred Dennis Hopper as an American Neo-Nazi who was constantly heckled by the character played by Fein.

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He may have hated the Army but he should be grateful that it kept the world safe.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:57 AM   #9
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What in his life caused Alda to actually believe that Kim II Sung was a better human being than President Eisenhower? Sung would kill 700,000 minimum of his own North Koreans (often just for crimes as petty as not keeping their household photo of Sung himself shiny enough!). And then comes Sung's son who kills hundreds of thousand more of his own North Koreans. And did Alda really think Mao (of the People's Republic of China) was greater than Chiang Kaishek when the former leader would kill like 50 million of his own Chinese?
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What in his life caused Alda to actually believe that Kim II Sung was a better human being than President Eisenhower? Sung would kill 700,000 minimum of his own North Koreans (often just for crimes as petty as not keeping their household photo of Sung himself shiny enough!). And then comes Sung's son who kills hundreds of thousand more of his own North Koreans. And did Alda really think Mao (of the People's Republic of China) was greater than Chiang Kaishek when the former leader would kill like 50 million of his own Chinese?

What about dictators who have killed their own people, just for disagreeing with them on Capitalism? You're not gonna express any outrage over that?

P.S. Alda has every right to his viewpoints. You will not bully him into changing them.
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What about dictators who have killed their own people, just for disagreeing with them on Capitalism? You're not gonna express any outrage over that?

P.S. Alda has every right to his viewpoints. You will not bully him into changing them.


Perhaps you can enlighten us on all these murdering capitalist dictators?

The problem is not that Alan Alda has viewpoints. The problem is that people believe him because he's an actor and sounds convincing, even though he has no idea what he is talking about.
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Gene Reynolds had nothing to do with the creation of Hogan's Heroes. That show was created by Bernard Fein and Albert S. Ruddy. Fein, may have gotten the idea for the series 2 years earlier when he appeared in The Twilight Zone episode "He's Alive" which starred Dennis Hopper as an American Neo-Nazi who was constantly heckled by the character played by Fein.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan's_Heroes

Maybe the confusion comes in with the fact that Gene Reynolds directed some episodes of Hogan's Heroes. When you look at some of the earliest episodes of MASH, they do lift some moments from the movie and some eps have the feeling of a Hogan's Heroes episode until they found their own footing.
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