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Old 05-11-2017, 10:57 PM   #31
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The show where she had the teenage daughter and young son and Vivian Vance had a son and they lived together was not bad. But apparently she was jealous of the attention Candy Moore was getting and wrote her out of the show and eventually shipped her tv son to military school and went solo until bringing in her own two kids in a later series.

Making up stuff? Elaborate on "the attention Candy Moore was getting." From the beginning, Candy Moore and the other kids on the show played minor characters. This show was created for Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. The rest of the cast -- with the exception of Gale Gordon, who came later -- were props. Candy Moore was written out of the show for the same reason the two young male actors were written out of the show. (You think she was jealous of Ralph Hart and Jimmy Garrett, too?) Vivian Vance decided to quit the show at the end of the third season, in 1965. Consequently, Lucille Ball was considering ending the series. She was going to continue on with a brand-new series with Gale Gordon. A pilot had been filmed a year earlier, with Bob Hope as a guest star. But Desilu felt she should continue The Lucy Show in order to get at least get 100 episodes in the can (they only had 84 by the end of the '64-'65 season). One hundred is considered a magic number for the number of episodes needed for weekday syndicated reruns. Also, CBS did not want to her end The Lucy Show. They wanted her to somehow continue the series. Then Maury Thompson and Tommy Thompson came up with a concept where Lucy Carmichael moves to Los Angeles and has encounters with celebrities. Ms. Ball liked their idea and that pretty much settled it. Candy Moore, Ralph Hart and Jimmy Garrett only had a small role on the show in the beginning. By the third season, their roles had been greatly diminished and no longer appeared in most episodes. And with the new format, they would be needed even less. So they were written out.
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This is likely going to be a rather controversial opinion but here it goes...Lucille Ball really didn't know how to evolve. Without Desi Arnez, there was no one really helping her choose material. She had gag writers on Here's Lucy. Her other shows had various combinations of her old writers who wrote basically old fashioned stuff she liked. Ball was not really funny herself and her persona wasn't that much different from the character she played in Stage Door.
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She was a wonderful performer, but was not a guiding force creatively as Desi and Jess Oppenheimer had been on I Love Lucy. It's not coincidence that the first season of The Lucy Show is the best: Desi was still around for part of it to guide the show and coax the writers to do rewrites on their lesser efforts. Lucy should have gotten Jess back to produce the Lucy Show after Desi left.
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Making up stuff? Elaborate on "the attention Candy Moore was getting." From the beginning, Candy Moore and the other kids on the show played minor characters. This show was created for Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. The rest of the cast -- with the exception of Gale Gordon, who came later -- were props. Candy Moore was written out of the show for the same reason the two young male actors were written out of the show. (You think she was jealous of Ralph Hart and Jimmy Garrett, too?) Vivian Vance decided to quit the show at the end of the third season, in 1965. Consequently, Lucille Ball was considering ending the series. She was going to continue on with a brand-new series with Gale Gordon. A pilot had been filmed a year earlier, with Bob Hope as a guest star. But Desilu felt she should continue The Lucy Show in order to get at least get 100 episodes in the can (they only had 84 by the end of the '64-'65 season). One hundred is considered a magic number for the number of episodes needed for weekday syndicated reruns. Also, CBS did not want to her end The Lucy Show. They wanted her to somehow continue the series. Then Maury Thompson and Tommy Thompson came up with a concept where Lucy Carmichael moves to Los Angeles and has encounters with celebrities. Ms. Ball liked their idea and that pretty much settled it. Candy Moore, Ralph Hart and Jimmy Garrett only had a small role on the show in the beginning. By the third season, their roles had been greatly diminished and no longer appeared in most episodes. And with the new format, they would be needed even less. So they were written out.


Interesting.
I have watched the different "Lucy" shows that existed throughout the 1960s into the early 1970s and I was very young but I noticed that the "The Lucy Show" had different "background characters" from "I Love Lucy" or "Here's Lucy." The ones with Desi Arnaz I knew must have been made before I was born and were always in reruns. I remember the show which featured Lucy and Vivian as characters with young kids, and I recall one episode in which Lucy was chosen to be the umpire at one of her son's baseball games and she interfered with the game by holding one kid from the other team by the legs as he tried to catch the ball or run to a base. I am not sure what Lucy's character's last name in this series , or Vivian's.
I don't have recollections about how those child characters were phased out or written out of the show before the show ended. I am surprised that in one of the Lucy shows before "Here's Lucy" Lucy was depicted as having a young daughter. Or that is what I best understand of what it says in your post. I don't recall ever seeing episodes in any of the shows in which she had a daughter other than "Kim" in the very final Lucy series.

Can anyone tell me how to find some general information about the different Lucy shows and what regular characters were in each?
Also anyone know about the names of each episode in each, at least the episodes in the Lucy shows that came after "The Lucy and Desi Comedy Hour"?
I would like to know about that episode in which Lucy was umpire at her young son's baseball game, if anyone else recalls that one.
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I don't recall ever seeing episodes in any of the shows in which she had a daughter other than "Kim" in the very final Lucy series.

Are you aware that Lucille Ball had a short-lived sitcom in 1986 called Life With Lucy?
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Are you aware that Lucille Ball had a short-lived sitcom in 1986 called Life With Lucy?

I recall the sitcom name "Life With Lucy" but I don't recall it was in the mid 1980s. Lucielle Ball died in 1989. How did she have enough energy only 3 years before her passing to do one more sitcom?
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Can anyone tell me how to find some general information about the different Lucy shows and what regular characters were in each?
Also anyone know about the names of each episode in each, at least the episodes in the Lucy shows that came after "The Lucy and Desi Comedy Hour"?
I would like to know about that episode in which Lucy was umpire at her young son's baseball game, if anyone else recalls that one.

Each show has a Wikipedia article that should contain general information about the show and characters. Each article should have a little box summarizing the information, and that box should have a link saying "List of Episodes." That list usually contains a brief description of each episode.
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I recall the sitcom name "Life With Lucy" but I don't recall it was in the mid 1980s. Lucielle Ball died in 1989. How did she have enough energy only 3 years before her passing to do one more sitcom?

I don't know, but it happened. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090473/
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