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Old 03-21-2015, 03:02 AM   #61
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Since Fox's Glee recently had its series finale, it just reminded me of the final years of The Drew Carey Show on ABC:
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"ABC signed a new contract to keep the show on through a ninth season, even though the show had yet to enter its seventh season (2001–2002) at that time. The season saw one of the show's biggest drops in ratings, finishing 57th with an average rating of 5.9, a significant drop of 28.3% from the sixth season. The show finished its eighth season (2002–2003) season 119th with an average rating of 3.29, a drop of 44.23 percent from the seventh season. This caused ABC to put the series on hiatus, airing the rest of the season in the summer of 2003. Unable to get out of the contract, ABC was forced to allow the show to film a ninth season, paying three million dollars per episode. Not doing well enough to receive a time slot on ABC's fall schedule in 2003, the show had its ninth and final season burned off during the summer of 2004.

The series finale was viewed by a little over 5 million viewers."

The show was moved to Mondays against King of Queens and ratings dropped, the show was pulled with 12 episodes left in season 8 and burned off that summer.

The final season was 26(!) episodes, so take those 26 episodes and add the 12 from the season before and multiply by $3 million bucks.

ABC spent $114 MILLION DOLLARS for summer burn off programming, essentially.
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Since Fox's Glee recently had its series finale, it just reminded me of the final years of The Drew Carey Show on ABC:
I remember when they did that, at the same time they did the same thing with WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAY?
I remember I thought both shows had been cancelled and I was surprised when they both appeared on the schedule again that spring with original episodes.
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Cancelled Cambat! that was still going strong and replaced it with Garrison's Gorillas which got cancelled after on season!

Executives did not like the salary of the cast nor the expenditure of ammo some season episodes!

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Harry Wild, I've never even heard of those shows.
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ABC expanding Nightline from four nights a week to five and ultimately cancelling the SNL rip-off 'Fridays.' From what I read the show did well in its first year at 11:30, but then bumped the show to midnight after Nightline and ratings plummeted. A trial episode aired at 9 pm, but that didn't work and the show was canned.

I would've had Nightline air Sun-Thu. The Sunday Nightline could have easily bumped down the late night Sunday newscast ABC used to offer to affiliates after their late local news.
They should have let the show die after Ted Koppel left
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- not canceling The Home Show in 1990 and replacing it with two game shows as planned.
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Harry Wild, I've never even heard of those shows.
"Combat! premiered on ABC on October 2, 1962, and was broadcast for five seasons. TV's longest-running World War II drama (as of May 2013), Combat! aired 152 hour-long episodes. "

Bio on Combat!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat!

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Thanks for the info!!

Also, overplaying Millionaire. They could have had it one or maybe two times a week. Who knows, maybe if they went the Survivor route, Millionaire would still be on the air.
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canceling THE FUGITIVE after 4 seasons (although you can't blame them-they did it because David Jansen didn't want to do it anymore, it used to get him really tired physically-they would shoot on location constantly and he was in just about every scene. He was also a heavy smoker)
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They should have let the show die after Ted Koppel left
I agree nightline stinks now
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They should have just left V as a mini series.
I agree. I think a V full series reboot would have done better on Syfy or FX.
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Thanks for the info!!

Also, overplaying Millionaire. They could have had it one or maybe two times a week. Who knows, maybe if they went the Survivor route, Millionaire would still be on the air.
I think part of ABC's problem (especially since Disney has owned it) is that whenever they strike the proverbial "lightening in a bottle", they have to run it into the ground at the expense of what's possibly best for the long term.
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ABC or more specifically, the big wigs at Disney (i.e. Michael Eisner and Bob Iger) acted rather complacent around the time that Monday Night Football moved from ABC to ESPN in 2006:
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I was feeling good that we had secured an eight-year deal for sports
television’s most venerable franchise when the other TV packages went
for six years. I also felt good that we had clearly strengthened one of
Disney’s core brands, ESPN, and had created a new opportunity for
ABC on Monday nights. And ultimately ABC created a franchise,
Dancing with the Stars, that has given Disney a strong, enviable position
with both men and women on Monday nights

MICHAEL EISNER:
By 2004, we had Lost, Desperate Housewives, Grey’s Anatomy, and
they had all done very well, but you can’t give up football; it’s The
American Pastime, and it would be bad from a PR point of view. So by
putting the big franchise, Monday night, on ESPN, we no longer had
to have it Monday nights on ABC. It was a fantastic decision worth
maybe a billion dollars to the company. So now you had Sunday night
on NBC, which is a big loss for them, and Monday night on ESPN.
ESPN goes from a Ping—Pong network and a surfing network, and
whatever else they were doing there in the beginning, to the key sports
franchise.

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Running these broadcast networks without a male delivery system,
which is what Monday Night Football is, is really hard to do. ABC may be
better positioned given the cross—promotional opportunities that they
have within ESPN, but they’ll want back in as well. Every time any of the
big four networks has ever lost the football package, they’ve come back in.
It sort of reminds me of what Jeff Zucker said around the time that NBC lost the rights to broadcast the NBA to ABC/ESPN in 2002:
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Within two years of the network losing the NBA rights, NBC dropped to fourth place in the prime time television rankings for the first time in its history, which was also partly the result of a weaker prime time schedule, and would more or less remain there until for almost nine years.
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I thought ESPN getting MNF was good. I thought MNF had gotten stale on ABC and ESPN provided a much needed breath of fresh air.

I can see Zucker's point. I mean you lose the NFL, MLB and then NBA, you figure your teflon. Boy, was he wrong. Just proves how much sports plays a role on network tv.
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They also canned Doogie Howser MD without closure. Steven Bochco said he would never forgive ABC for pulling the plug.
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