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Old 10-08-2013, 03:33 PM   #16
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I totally agree with the oversaturation of WWTBAM. I think Regis Philbin is annoying anyway and him being all over the network didn't help. I also agree about cancelling AMC and OLTL in favor of more generic boring reality/lifestyle shows with The Chew and The Revolution.

Thinking Welcome to the Neighborhood, a reality show where rich, white surburbanites get to pick which minority family would be moving into a home in their neighborhood would be good drama. They pulled it after complaints there could be potential racism and stereotyping.

Constantly preempting the popular soap Edge of Night and then ultimately cancelling it in 1984.


Not giving V a chance with the constant preempting of that show.

Allowing The Bachelor and The Bachelorette to continue despite only having one successful contestant finding love and actually getting married.

ABC most recently, pulled the plug on GCB (even though I think, it did at least respectable in the ratings) too quickly in order to appease to the growing pressure right-wing moral guardians such as One Million Moms.
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ABC most recently, pulled the plug on GCB (even though I think, it did at least respectable in the ratings) too quickly in order to appease to the growing pressure right-wing moral guardians such as One Million Moms.
The mistake there was ever airing GCB in the first place. I'm very glad it was cancelled, a show referring to Christians as bitches in the title had no business being picked up. And yes the title was shortened but we all know what it stood for, ABC didn't pick those letters out of a hat.
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I totally agree with the oversaturation of WWTBAM. I think Regis Philbin is annoying anyway and him being all over the network didn't help. I also agree about cancelling AMC and OLTL in favor of more generic boring reality/lifestyle shows with The Chew and The Revolution.

Thinking Welcome to the Neighborhood, a reality show where rich, white surburbanites get to pick which minority family would be moving into a home in their neighborhood would be good drama. They pulled it after complaints there could be potential racism and stereotyping.

Constantly preempting the popular soap Edge of Night and then ultimately cancelling it in 1984.


Not giving V a chance with the constant preempting of that show.

Allowing The Bachelor and The Bachelorette to continue despite only having one successful contestant finding love and actually getting married.
I don't watch soap operas, but wasn't EDGE OF NIGHT on CBS? And wasn't V on NBC?
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I don't watch soap operas, but wasn't EDGE OF NIGHT on CBS? And wasn't V on NBC?
The original V was on NBC but they may be referring to the V remake, which aired on ABC.
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ABC most recently, pulled the plug on GCB (even though I think, it did at least respectable in the ratings) too quickly in order to appease to the growing pressure right-wing moral guardians such as One Million Moms.
what's GCB?
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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The mistake there was ever airing GCB in the first place. I'm very glad it was cancelled, a show referring to Christians as bitches in the title had no business being picked up. And yes the title was shortened but we all know what it stood for, ABC didn't pick those letters out of a hat.

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ABC expanding Nightline from four nights a week to five and ultimately cancelling the SNL rip-off 'Fridays.' From what I read the show did well in its first year at 11:30, but then bumped the show to midnight after Nightline and ratings plummeted. A trial episode aired at 9 pm, but that didn't work and the show was canned.

I would've had Nightline air Sun-Thu. The Sunday Nightline could have easily bumped down the late night Sunday newscast ABC used to offer to affiliates after their late local news.
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Last Man Standing should have find a well-known actor, who did not end up in the movies at all, to play Mike Baxter better. Tim Allen is already in the movies and he should appear more movies right now!

If they got rid of actress Alexandra Rosney and replaced her with Amanda Fuller to play Kristen, than they should replace both actresses Molly Ephraim and Kaitlyn Dever with two new actresses to play both 18-year-old Mandy Baxter and 15-year-old Eve Baxter characters better!
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The original V was on NBC but they may be referring to the V remake, which aired on ABC.

Yep, and the original V series on NBC after the miniseries didn't fare well either, being cancelled after one season which had the final episode end on a cliffhanger.
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The biggest mistake that I remember was when they moved The Partridge Family to Saturday nights opposite All In The Family in the fall of 1973. Not only would the show be doomed to fail, and it did, only lasting for one final fourth season, but that move also completely destroyed the best Friday night lineup ABC has ever had. The Brady Bunch and The Odd Couple, two other great pre-TGIF shows, would be gone after that season as well.
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I would agree about Who Wants to be a Millionaire. That show was beaten to death. Also, the infamous One Life to Live and All My Children being cancelled is a mistake.
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Odd Couple was renewed for one more season.

I'd say Everything ABC did in preparing for fall, 1979 was a massive pile of fail. Not just the ridiculous focus group-driven tinkering with Mork & Mindy and moving it to Sundays, but all the shuffling of shows the network did that year. Laverne & Shirley went from finishing as the #1 show for the 1978-79 season to placing third in its time slot and dangling near the bottom ten around January of 1980. It takes some hardcore incompetence on the part of the network suits to achieve that!
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Last Man Standing should have find a well-known actor, who did not end up in the movies at all, to play Mike Baxter better. Tim Allen is already in the movies and he should appear more movies right now!

If they got rid of actress Alexandra Rosney and replaced her with Amanda Fuller to play Kristen, than they should replace both actresses Molly Ephraim and Kaitlyn Dever with two new actresses to play both 18-year-old Mandy Baxter and 15-year-old Eve Baxter characters better!

How exactly that a mess-up that ABC as a television network made as a whole? I would put that more on the list of the biggest mess-ups/mistakes in Tim Allen's career. Or more the point, the biggest mistakes that TV shows made for their second seasons.
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ABC had a lot of problems in the years following the 90's. The biggest mistake was overplaying Who Wants to Be A Millionaire, and not foreseeing that it was going to be a trend that burnt-out quickly. They also failed to use this show to produce new hits.


But the main problem was mismanagement, starting with the appointment of Jamie Trases as President of Entertainment where she turned everything on the network into a "Friends" clone. ABC tried in vein to capture the market NBC was getting by turning every show on the network into a show about young 20'somethings.


You also had the mistake of passing on several shows that turned into major hits for other networks--- They passed on the CSI Franchise (and along with it the lucrative Jerry Bruckhemier production contract which ended up earning CBS untold fortunes.)

They passed on The Apprentice a show that ended up going on to to the #1 show on Primetime for awhile

I believe I also read that they also nearly passed on both Lost and Desperate Housewives.


Which brings me to my next point:

Firing Lloyd Braun and Susan Lyne, whose development work produced the two biggest hits ABC had had in decades and turned the network around. I think ABC was in such bad shape for so long and Lyne's previous development efforts produced little fanfare that firing her was sort of inevitable. Aside from George Lopez and 8 Simple Rules, her work produced little value until Lost and Housewives.


Cancelling long-running soaps "All My Children" and "One Life To Live" (which at the time of it's cancellation was the highest-rated soap on ABC) in favor of cheaply produced talk shows that nobody is watching. They thought that producing cheaper shows would off-set any ratings slips. They were wrong. This decision is to be solely blamed on one man imho, Brian Frons, the idiot who from the second he was hired at ABC Daytime began to systematically dismantle the shows he was in charge of. It was clear he was a man that did not love the soap opera genre and every decision he made undermined the intelligence of the audience and disrespected the crew and cast of these shows. He made bad decisions so he would be justified in cancelling two beloved iconic series.
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I don't watch soap operas, but wasn't EDGE OF NIGHT on CBS? And wasn't V on NBC?


Edge of Night started out on CBS airing there from 1956-1975 and then moved to ABC in 1975 where it stayed until 1984.
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