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Old 01-13-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Default I hated the New Arnold's

One of the memories I have about HD going downhill (in my mind) was the episode where Arnold's burned and they rebuilt it as a wood panelled ......roadhouse or something. Nothing EVER looked right on the set after that.
Did anyone else hate the new look?
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:35 PM   #2
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I didnt like it either. The way you entered Arnolds with those doors reminded me of the old west. And what about those tables and benches? Were you going to a picnic?
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I didnt like it either. The way you entered Arnolds with those doors reminded me of the old west. And what about those tables and benches? Were you going to a picnic?


I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! What were they thinking using this set? They could have just changed it but not gone Western DUDE style? What's up with the swinging doors too?


I really liked the movie Grease and maybe they should have done some type of diner look or something? It would have been so much better as seen here (See attached.
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I didn't mind it, but I didn't understand the western look either
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According to the Internet: Season 7 Episode 156 January 22, 1980 "Hot Stuff" - Chachi burns down Arnolds leaving the stove on and throwing his apron on the grill, causing Arnold's to go up in flames.

This storyline was part of a decision by producers Garry Marshall and Lowell Ganz that the old '50s-style Arnold's was no longer appealing enough to teen audiences; it was burned down so it could be replaced with a more modern 60s-style restaurant set to coincide with the turn of the decade from the 50s to the 60s.

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This storyline was part of a decision by producers Garry Marshall and Lowell Ganz that the old '50s-style Arnold's was no longer appealing enough to teen audiences; it was burned down so it could be replaced with a more modern 60s-style restaurant set to coincide with the turn of the decade from the 50s to the 60s.

I can understand them wanting to better represent the 60's, however when they said that a 50's diner wouldn't appeal to teen audiences anymore, were they referring to the TV audience? If so, the show at that time was airing in the 80's, so, I'm not sure what difference it would make to teens of the 80's if the diner was 50's or 60's. LOL! In regard to the new style of Arnold's, I believe that western style was a very common look for restaurants in the 60's.
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In regard to the new style of Arnold's, I believe that western style was a very common look for restaurants in the 60's.

I wonder if the same set did double duty as the set for Cowboy Bill's in Laverne & Shirley?
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That's a good question shotzette. I don't know -- the configuation seems wrong to be able to accomplish that. Plus, consider all of the signage and stuff in Cowboy Bills. Would they really take the time to re-dress the set over and over with all of that?

Anyway, it's important to remember as a previous poster referenced that HD had become a 60s show. 1950s diners were giving way, at least to some modernization, though I think that a westernish motif was maybe unlikely for Wisconsin!
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Even though the changeover to the new Arnold's took place towards the end of the Ron Howard era, I always associate it with the last four seasons (1980-1984).

I didn't hate it, but it was a little too slick looking for me.
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Just don't be the guy who ate too much chili while Fonzie was in his "office".
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I totally forgot about the second Arnold's!
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I hated everything about the later Happy Days seasons, the changes to Arnold's being a big part of it. The producers of the show seemed to realize their mistake when they began grasping at changes in the final season to make things more "real" and less corny, kind of like the earlier seasons. It would have been interesting if they had gone a little longer to see where that would have led them.

Laverne and Shirley had pretty much the same thing happen. They started with Laverne's father operating a pizza shop in an inner city type location. But suddenly one year it changed to fried chicken/southern style restaurant. What they heck were they thinking?
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Did you notice Richie and Ralph were only seen in the new Arnold's for only a couple of episodes before they left? I would have liked to see them interact at the New Arnolds a little more.

Btw, they wanted Arnold's to look like the 60s. It looks like the 60s.The 1860s
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Did you notice Richie and Ralph were only seen in the new Arnold's for only a couple of episodes before they left? I would have liked to see them interact at the New Arnolds a little more.

Btw, they wanted Arnold's to look like the 60s. It looks like the 60s.The 1860s

I HATED the new Arnold's SO MUCH. Another jump the shark moment. To be fair, they had no Internet to research what 1960's restaurants looked like. Oh but wait! Didn't they have libraries back then? Oh people old enough working on the show who remembered the early 1960s?

"1860s" You got that right. Only thing missing were cowboy hats.

Oh wait, the Lone Ranger did make an appearance!
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Did you notice Richie and Ralph were only seen in the new Arnold's for only a couple of episodes before they left? I would have liked to see them interact at the New Arnolds a little more.

Btw, they wanted Arnold's to look like the 60s. It looks like the 60s.The 1860s

Well, throw in the afros, feathered hair, jean jackets and....

We all know that HD stopped paying attention to period detail after the second season. And throw in the weak replacement characters and 1980 is pretty much the beginning of a long, slow decline.
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