Miami Police Arrest Teen in Brutal Cat Killings

[Retro4Life]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Amazing...ory&id=7836149

Sorry to buzzkill anyone's Sunday, but I just saw this and felt like posting it here. I just posted that I don't "hate" very often, but I HATE this kid, and all like him.

I'm not precisely sure what should be done to him, but I know it should be something appropriately terrible.

[catlover79]

GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!! PUT THE CHAIR INSIDE THE GAS CHAMBER!!!

[Retro4Life]

Originally Posted by catlover79

GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!! PUT THE CHAIR INSIDE THE GAS CHAMBER!!!

Or perhaps dump fish oil on him and throw into the lion cage at the local zoo and see how that works out for him...

[catlover79]

Originally Posted by Retro4Life

Or perhaps dump fish oil on him and throw into the lion cage at the local zoo and see how that works out for him...

That's even better!!

[OH Nuts!]

Sadly, someone like this will probably get a few yrs jail time, clearly not enough. Studies have found that wanton animal cruelty like this is often a precursor to like forms of violence against humans. Laws need to be changed - double digit jail time at the very least. What do I feel in my gut would be a just punishment? 2-3 minutes in a hungry tiger's den (a lion, bear or 15 yr old chimp would also do - remember Travis?)

[catlover79]

^ EXACTLY.

[Retro4Life]

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but that photo of the suspect was his MUG SHOT...really shows you how seriously he is taking the whole thing, smirking like that at such a time.

I guess this is going to sound a bit "out there" but even though I honestly don't support the death penalty, I think something like this makes me come very, very close. A lot of people have told me it's wrong to "value" the lives of animals more than humans, but I think my reasoning is that animals (particularly pets!) are totally innocent and are supposed to be under our sheperdship. Killing them is like a true blasphemy, it's something I can't get my head around at all. I mean, obviously, I'm not in favor of anyone murdering a person either but at least with the great majority of those cases you can understand some remote (though unjustified) reason for the act (jealousy, theft, covering up something else, rage, etc.) but something like this case strikes me as absolutely, 100 percent EVIL; violence for violence's sake, and probably for the suffering of the victim.

I've got to stop thinking about this, it's burning a hole in my soul.

[InspectorExstead]

...That is ****ing disgusting. I don't understand how people can take joy in hurting defenseless animals like that, but then again, I don't know how people can hurt other humans as well. Either way, that is so sad about the cats and the way they were killed. =( I hate when people are cruel to animals. I feel sorry for the owners of the cats that were killed by this sicko creep.

[ABlairican Pie]

I would love to pound the living crap out of that punk's slimy smirk. No freaking mercy for this worthless pile of subhuman filth.

I love kitties too much to let this scumbag ever walk the streets alive again.

[OH Nuts!]

Originally Posted by ABlairican Pie

I would love to pound the living crap out of that punk's slimy smirk. No freaking mercy for this worthless pile of subhuman filth.

I love kitties to much to let this scumbag ever walk the streets alive again.

I hear you. I just hope he gets a tough judge whose an animal lover so this piece of garbage will go to jail for as long as legally possible. After a while in jail, that smirk will disappear.

[JT]

I don't get this whole animal cruelty thing, and I'm sure someone will explain it to me, but how is torturing and killing cats something that can be punishable by law, but torturing and killing...idk...frogs, mosquitos, cockroaches, rats, snakes, etc, isn't?

[Schmoopie]

Oh that is just HORRIBLE! OMG, I am a huge animal lover and sadly, I'm surprised that they even arrested him! I'm only saying that because usually, jackasses like this only get fined or some community service. The thing that gets me is that if these were humans that he was doing this to, you know that the consequences would be severe; probably the death penalty. No way are they going to give him the death penalty, although he needs it. This is a sick individual. I didn't see the "mug shot", but I'm sure he feels no remorse for what he has done.

I personally think that the penalty for killing animals should be WORSE than killing humans. Now, obviously most humans that are killed in horrible circumstances can't defend themselves, even if they cry for help, but animals can't defend themselves in situations like this at all. I hope that statement makes sense, because it sounds bad, the way I've worded it. I don't get why people think that killing animals just for fun is acceptable. People get charged all the time with murder of other people. There should be a charge for murdering animals as well. Sadly, the outcome of murder is still the same, whether it be a person or an animal.

Andrea

Oh my... I just had a peek at the article and if that picture is the guy's mug shot, I'd like to kill him myself! And the worst thing about that article is the picture of the poor kitty. I just don't see how he lives with himself. If he is so "happy" to be doing this, then what would stop him from doing it to a human?

I think the government should seriously make killing cats and other animals a crime as stiff as if it were a person who was killed.

[JamesG]

Originally Posted by JT

I don't get this whole animal cruelty thing, and I'm sure someone will explain it to me, but how is torturing and killing cats something that can be punishable by law, but torturing and killing...idk...frogs, mosquitos, cockroaches, rats, snakes, etc, isn't?

You bring up a very interesting point. I'm not a lawyer so I'm unfamiliar with how this works but here is my guess...

I guess it depends on a couple of things. The main thing is the issue of property ownership. Pets are the property of people and nobody has the right to "destroy your property". That would be burglary and vandalism.

If it were strays killed I don't know if it would make a difference. Granted it's horrible and inexcusable to kill any animal without reason, pet or not, but I am interested to see how it might be different if the cats killed were strays and not owned by anyone.



I am aware of animal cruelty laws but I don't know how it applies to animals that are not pets and what is/isn't considered to be cruelty.

I used to have mouse traps in my house when we had a mice problem. The spring trap is a quick, sudden death whereas the glueboard is slow and torture according to my opinion. I've heard it happen where people forget about the trap and the mouse starved to death stuck there or it literally chewed at its limbs to get out of it and it bled to death. Glueboards are legal and that is considered "cruel" and unnecessary to me so I don't use them; but they are allowed.



The other issue is dealing with hunting and endangered species. You can't hunt any animal anytime and anywhere you want. There are designated hunting zones with licenses and all of that. Also, animals that are officially listed as endangered species it's against the law to hunt down without the proper reasoning and credentials issued by the government.


I really don't know much about this but those are what I can think of that deal with the killing of animals.

[ABlairican Pie]

Originally Posted by JT

I don't get this whole animal cruelty thing, and I'm sure someone will explain it to me, but how is torturing and killing cats something that can be punishable by law, but torturing and killing...idk...frogs, mosquitos, cockroaches, rats, snakes, etc, isn't?

I think it's because people consider creatures such as bugs and rodents as pests which bring disease and ruin crops, etc., while dogs and cats are more emotionally tied in to people's lives. I think with most people, though, with animals such as frogs and reptiles that many have a few qualms about hurting them, but probably not as much as higher mammals.

[JT]

Originally Posted by ABlairican Pie

I think it's because people consider creatures such as bugs and rodents as pests which bring disease and ruin crops, etc., while dogs and cats are more emotionally tied in to people's lives. I think with most people, though, with animals such as frogs and reptiles that many have a few qualms about hurting them, but probably not as much as higher mammals.

That's messed up then, IMO. I am by no means an animal lover at all...I won't go around killing them just for kicks, mind you, but I've never owned a pet and never plan to. It's just never been my thing at all. I consider cats and dogs to be MAJOR pests (but again, I wouldn't kill or torture them for fun...that's just pointless), and I'm far from emotionally tied to them, so I don't see how it's fair that some animals fall under "cruelty to animals" and others don't.

Even using JamesG's reasoning about property, legally, I don't think that would be considered "cruelty to animals" any more than it would just be "destruction of property" or whatever the legal term for that is.