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Old 02-24-2009, 05:20 PM   #16
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Alcohol and tobcco isn't the subject of this thread.

And, if it is, so what? Why release yet another vice (marijuana) on society?

If you don't know any lives ruined due to pot smoking maybe you should visit the substance abuse department at a hospital?

Riiiight...because marijuana hasn't been available to society for the last several thousands of years or anything....

And you do realize that a vast majority of those in "substance abuse" programs strictly for marijuana are there because they chose it over a much harsher sentence after getting caught, don't you?
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If you don't know any lives ruined due to pot smoking maybe you should visit the substance abuse department at a hospital?

I have never come across any recovering pot addicts. I've seen heroine addicts and alcohol addicts in the majority when I volunteered at a hospital a few years ago.
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:23 PM   #18
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I have never come across any recovering pot addicts.

Me neither. I know several people who use or used pot, and most have been able to quit as they please without a hitch. Worst case scenario? Heavy smokers tend to experience mild crankiness, and a little trouble sleeping for a few days.
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I agree. BAD idea. Marijuana use to should discouraged, not encouraged.

And I don't believe that Marijuana is "less harmful" than alcohol and tobacco.
Many people who have ruined their lives started by using marijuana.


Then why aren't you campaigning to make alcohol illegal? It's killed and ruined the lives ten fold of people over marijuana. It also murders people daily by drunk drivers and people who go off the deep end while drunk.

Marijuana has NEVER been a factor in murder from someone who is "high" on it. Marijuana has never ruined my life, but alcohol sure did. I lost my father at age 19 to it.

It's also been proven that more people binged on alcohol during prohibition and more illegal activity was involved with it (rum running, bootlegging, etc.) It's the exact same with marijuana.

And if it's regulated like alcohol is in Canada (outside of Quebec) it is much tougher for kids to get their hands on than it is now. Now, it's being sold in schoolyards. We have the "LCBO" Liquor Control Board Ontario where alcohol can only be sold in government run stores. Proper checks are in place so anyone under legal age cannot purchase. That's the way it should be with grass too.
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Riiiight...because marijuana hasn't been available to society for the last several thousands of years or anything....

And you do realize that a vast majority of those in "substance abuse" programs strictly for marijuana are there because they chose it over a much harsher sentence after getting caught, don't you?


Exactly! There is no rehab for pot - it's NOT addictive. Some people may become dependant, but they're the type who would on anything - even aspirin. It's a joke that they send them to "rehab" rather than jail. It's just to pacify people like Fleet who still believe the movie "Reefer Madness"!! lol
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Then why aren't you campaigning to make alcohol illegal?

They tried that before. It made Al Capone very rich.
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Exactly! There is no rehab for pot - it's NOT addictive. Some people may become dependant, but they're the type who would on anything - even aspirin. It's a joke that they send them to "rehab" rather than jail. It's just to pacify people like Fleet who still believe the movie "Reefer Madness"!! lol

Right on. Those who have addictive personalities could become dependent on marijuana, just as the same type of person could become dependent on cheeseburgers, cake, video games, reality tv...just about anything.
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They tried that before. It made Al Capone very rich.


Among thousands of other criminals. That's why if the government REALLY wanted to get rid of criminals and actually make some money themselves (that could go to better healthcare), then they should legalize marijuana too. It's been the U.S. government that's encouraged criminal activity so much by keeping things illegal and unregulated. Boneheads.
It also appeals to kids more if they know it's illegal.
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Among thousands of other criminals. That's why if the government REALLY wanted to get rid of criminals and actually make some money themselves (that could go to better healthcare), then they should legalize marijuana too. It's been the U.S. government that's encouraged criminal activity so much by keeping things illegal and unregulated. Boneheads.
It also appeals to kids more if they know it's illegal.

Another thing to mention is that a lot of people got even sicker due to the conditions of the illegal booze. I mean come on, it wasn't in the best of quality.

Perhaps we will see "healthier weed" if the government were to officially grow it themselves. Instead of the crap that one gets off of the street. For those who know what to look for you know bad weed when you see it.
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Legalize it in all states

I agree. Wholeheartedly. It's about time America finally got out of the '50s mentality!
(Sorry, Howdy - no offense)

But seriously, marijuana should be legal in all 50 States - if it wasn't for medical marijuana (that had to be obtained and smoked illegally, unfortunately) my mother-in-law and brother-in-law would have both lived excruciatingly painful lives prior to their deaths (both had forms of cancer and were going through chemo and radiation therapy). Plus, marijuana is probably the most natural and safest stress relaxer on Earth (at least that's what users have told me).
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I hope this does not turn into a political thread and people start yelling
and hurling insults at each other. We have had plenty of threads of this
type before and we do not need them.
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i don't like the idea personally, but i'm all for fairness. never understood why alcohol is illegal and pot isn't. at least there won't be any teenagers or 18-19 year old "adults" able to legally use it, and hopefully it will help take away the "coolness" factor. many still will of course, but contrary to popular belief there are actually human beings on this earth who obey the law, even if it's just because they're afraid of getting caught.
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Among thousands of other criminals. That's why if the government REALLY wanted to get rid of criminals and actually make some money themselves (that could go to better healthcare), then they should legalize marijuana too. It's been the U.S. government that's encouraged criminal activity so much by keeping things illegal and unregulated. Boneheads.
It also appeals to kids more if they know it's illegal.

Preach!

I basically agree with everything TripperFan and the others have said, but I want to add something. If marijuana IS the so-called "gateway" drug, I'm sure the fact that it's illegal has a lot to do with it. Alcohol will screw you up a LOT worse, and it doesn't have that ****ty "gateway" stigma attached to it.
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Preach!

I basically agree with everything TripperFan and the others have said, but I want to add something. If marijuana IS the so-called "gateway" drug, I'm sure the fact that it's illegal has a lot to do with it. Alcohol will screw you up a LOT worse, and it doesn't have that ****ty "gateway" stigma attached to it.

Have you actually looked into the history on what led up to marijuana being made illegal?
It was all due to propaganda, racism, and paranoid Mormons. Utah was the first state that outlawed it and many followed suit soon after.
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Have you actually looked into the history on what led up to marijuana being made illegal?
It was all due to propaganda, racism, and paranoid Mormons. Utah was the first state that outlawed it and many followed suit soon after.
I'm not surprised.

No, I haven't read too much about it, but I've read enough to know that it's really silly for it to be illegal. There are much more dangerous things out there that are legal. Guns, for example. Guns have played a part in killing people [insert outrageously high number] times more than ol' Mary J. has.
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