Christians gather for war protests

ABlairican Pie · 03-17-2007, 07:13 AM

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Christians gather for war protests

Police arrest demonstrators at White House

The Associated Press
Updated: 2:06 a.m. PT March 17, 2007

WASHINGTON - Thousands of Christians prayed for peace at an anti-war service Friday night at the Washington National Cathedral, kicking off a weekend of protests around the country to mark the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq.

Afterward, participants marched with battery-operated faux candles through snow and wind toward the White House, where police began arresting protesters shortly before midnight. Protest guidelines require demonstrators to continue moving while on the White House sidewalk.

“We gave them three warnings, and they broke the guidelines,” said Lt. Scott Fear. “There’s an area on the White House sidewalk where you have to keep moving.”

Several thousand protesters remained across the street from the White House at Lafayette Park, cheering on those who were willing to be arrested. Protesters knelt and prayed in front of the darkened executive mansion. The president was away for the weekend at Camp David in Maryland.

The exact number of initial arrests was not immediately available.

John Pattison, 29, said he and his wife flew in from Portland, Ore., to attend his first anti-war rally. He said his opposition to the war had developed over time.

“Quite literally on the night that shock and awe commenced, my friend and I toasted the military might of the United States,” Pattison said. “We were quite proud and thought we were doing the right thing.”

He said the way the war had progressed and U.S. foreign policy since then had forced him to question his beliefs.

“A lot of the rhetoric that we hear coming from Christians has been dominated by the religious right and has been strong advocacy for the war,” Pattison said. “That’s just not the way I read my Gospel.”

‘An offense against God’
The ecumenical coalition that organized the event, Christian Peace Witness for Iraq, distributed 3,200 tickets for the service in the cathedral, with two smaller churches hosting overflow crowds. The cathedral appeared to be packed, although sleet and snow prevented some from attending.

“This war, from a Christian point of view, is morally wrong — and was from the beginning,” the Rev. Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners/Call to Renewal, one of the event’s sponsors, said toward the end of the service to cheers and applause. “This war is ... an offense against God.”

In his speech, the Rev. Raphael G. Warnock, senior pastor at Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church, lashed out at Congress for being “too morally inept to intervene” to stop the war, but even more harshly against President Bush.

“Mr. Bush, my Christian brother, we do need a surge in troops. We need a surge in the nonviolent army of the Lord,” he said. “We need a surge in conscience and a surge in activism and a surge in truth-telling.”

Celeste Zappala of Philadelphia recounted how she learned of the death of her son, Sgt. Sherwood Baker, who served in the National Guard. When a uniformed man came to her door asking if she was Baker’s mother, she said yes.

“’Yes,’ and then I fell to the ground and somewhere outside of myself I heard someone screaming and screaming,” she said.

Tuesday’s anniversary
The Friday night events mark the beginning of what is planned as a weekend of protests ahead of Tuesday’s anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, which began on March 20, 2003.

On Saturday morning, a coalition of protest groups has a permit for up to 30,000 people to march from the Vietnam War Memorial across the Potomac River to the Pentagon. Smaller demonstrations are planned in cities across the country.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Activists from the Mennonite group the Psalters pray before taking part in an anti-war procession from the National Cathedral to the White House on Friday.

James · 03-17-2007, 11:15 PM

What? A group of Christians that supports the "troops out now" crowd (e. g. the Hillary whose last name isn't Duff) and wants us to "cut and run"?

Central Perk · 03-17-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by James

What? A group of Christians that supports the "troops out now" crowd (e. g. the Hillary whose last name isn't Duff) and wants us to "cut and run"?

No, a group of Christians who still believe that Jesus is the Prince of Peace. A title that seems to have fallen on the deaf ears of neocons.

James · 03-18-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Central Perk

No, a group of Christians who still believe that Jesus is the Prince of Peace. A title that seems to have fallen on the deaf ears of neocons.

It's better to defeat the insurgents and terrorists over there before they arrive here if you ask me!

Fleet · 03-18-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by James

It's better to defeat the insurgents and terrorists over there before they arrive here if you ask me!

Right. But some liberals will never understand that.

ABlairican Pie · 03-18-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by James

It's better to defeat the insurgents and terrorists over there before they arrive here if you ask me!

And I imagine the war is just going swimmingly over there.

Let's see, Jesus said a few things like, blessed are the peacemakers, love your enemies, be kind who spitefully use you or persecute you, turn the other cheek, do unto others as you have them do unto you, and those who who live by the sword, die by the sword. So if we live by war, we shall die by it.

Hasn't our wonderful war increased the threat of terrorism up several notches?

I know, I know, I'm so dumb, I haven't really figured it out:

Jesus = war.

Right?

War is super good, not only does it kill those big bad terrorists over there, even though thousands of Iraqi babies get killed in the processs, but it shows those awful ingrates we liberated who's boss.

James · 03-18-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ABlairican Pie

And I imagine the war is just going swimmingly over there.

It depends on who you ask: the soldiers or the "drive-by media" dominated by left wing nut jobs that want our surrender, if not defeat, just to make our President look bad.

ABlairican Pie · 03-18-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by James

It depends on who you ask: the soldiers or the "drive-by media" dominated by left wing nut jobs that want our surrender, if not defeat, just to make our President look bad.

The president doesn't need any help in making himself look bad.

03-17-2007, 07:13 AM	#1
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James Senior Member Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 5,373	What? A group of Christians that supports the "troops out now" crowd (e. g. the Hillary whose last name isn't Duff) and wants us to "cut and run"?

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